Would all men see me that way?

I'm an 18 year old female and I've only had one serious boyfriend but he generally acted like I was a child or like I was completely incapable. He viewed everything I did as adorable (one of the strangest examples being when he found it adorable that I preferred a certain kind of laundry detergent) and he saw me as this precious, weak little thing.

He also assumed that I was scared of everything and would say things like "it's just adorable to me that you're scared" or "I find it cute that you struggle to lift 10lbs" (I don't and I don't think any healthy person over the age of 10 does) when I'd not done anything to give him that impression. He never wanted me to hang out with friends or go to work because he was worried about how people there would 'influence me.'

This bothered me to the point where I had to end the relationship because I'm so repulsed by the thought of people seeing me that way. And I'm worried that if all men will see me that way, I'll never be able to have a serious, romantic relationship.

I'm a very small, thin person (I'm 5 foot nothing and I weigh less than 100 lbs) and I do look about 2 years younger than I really am. I know that I'm not nearly as physically strong as men are but I don't think it warrants that sort of treatment.

Will all men see me that way?

I'm a woman and I don't think men will see you like that 10
I'm a woman and I do think men will see you like that 2
I'm a man and I don't think men will see you like that 16
I'm a man and I do think men will see you like that 3
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  • Tealights

    Not all men, but most.

    Eerily enough, a lot of guys don't see anything wrong with this behavior. They think girls should appreciate guys finding their lack of anything due to their physiology adorable, as though it were a compliment. Sadly, it becomes borderline condescending after a while, even though he probably didn't meant it in that way. Sadly, it's not limited to height, but personality as well; so if you're inexperience in certain areas, prepare for "compliments" such as, "You're so pure," or "I find it cute you haven't done..." As well as them rolling their eyes or chuckling when you fail at doing something for the 1st time that they are well-versed in. But god forbid if you tell them they're cute, or laugh when they try something for the 1st time and fail, then you're considered a bitch.

    It's just something you have to weed through on your way to finding a decent partner. Like us women, men share habits that they generally all do, and this is one of them. It's not bad because some girls like that baby talk and being treated as a little girl thing sexy/attractive or they believe in rigid gender roles; but just like you, I'm not into that nonsense.

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    • LloydAsher

      I'm somewhat of a traditionalist. I find those qualities to be highly sought after. The OP just needs to find a guy that is within her tastes unfortunately that may take a few years because guys take a while to mature.

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      • Tealights

        It's icky to me, because he sort of treats her like a house cat and not as a person. You can find someone adorable without making them feel like a helpless pet. Then the whole "You can't see your friends/go to work because I think you're easily influenced"? That's owner/pet logic. I don't let my cats leave the house cause they're going to get lost or taken by someone else, and I find their helplessness/cat like behavior and appearance adorable.

        Truly that's not tradition unless you're referring to the darkest parts of history.

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        • LloydAsher

          The pet part is creepy. Never got that form of thinking. I dont find the not being able to do things so I'll take the mantle kinda enduring of course this would deteriorate the relationship if he didnt allow for some tasks to be done. But I don't think that would happen I think he would just get more mature and let her have some more say in the matter. Of course it's still up to her.

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      • RoseIsabella

        What qualities specifically do you find to be highly sought after?

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  • Boojum

    Jesus flipping Christ! How long did you stay with that creepy, manipulative guy?

    However long it lasted, you can at least be proud that you resisted his attempts to program you to play the helpless little victim. And that is what he was doing: constantly feeding you suggestions in an attempt to hypnotise you into believing you were a pathetic person who had to rely on him. I don't know if it was something he did instinctively or some some NLP BS, but I am sure getting away from him was a positive step.

    The thing about him not wanting you to spend any time with friends was an enormous red flag, by the way. Separating a woman from her preexisting support network is the classic first step for a man who's a highly manipulative control freak.

    Given what you say about your stature, I suspect you will probably always attract men who want to treat you like a precious, helpless little person because that makes them feel good about themselves. You might also attract the attention of real scuzzbags who are secretly sexually attracted to young teen girls. But I'd like to believe that there are guys out there who will mainly see you as the person you are, rather than primarily as a woman who's smaller than average.

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    • palehorse

      Agreed. This guy sounds really toxic. Especially the "don't be with your friends" part.

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    • curious-bunny

      Very true. That bullshit is unacceptable. Good for OP for not falling for it

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  • brutus

    Become a lesbian perhaps.

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  • NoLifer

    He sounds really condescending and possibly a little bit sexist. Not everyone is this much of an idiot.

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  • shuggy-chan

    Well most comments have cover how I see it from your description, only other things I will add is the following

    You are 18, I assume he is of a similar age. He probably is a big dummy and doesn’t really realize how big a problem it is how he acts towards you.

    So I hope you have had a serious talk with him about treating you with a little more respect. Because if i think back to my teens/early 20’s I was a goober.

    And what I thought was cute or charming, might have rubbed other people the wrong way.

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    • shuggy-chan

      But the insecurity about letting you hang out with people or “you changing”

      Pffft you’re 18, shit will be changing at light speed for you.

      That’s more of a red flag

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  • palehorse

    That guy sounds gross.

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    • RoseIsabella

      He sounds vile.

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  • RoseIsabella

    I think you should get a big horse turd, stick it in a box, wrap it up in wrapping paper and ribbons, then mail it to his piece of shit ass!

    I'm glad you dumped that piece of shit, son of a bitch! 😁

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  • Tingles18

    It's ok for guys to think that you're cute, but what this guy did was way too much.

    Him not letting you hang out with your friends or go to work is not normal. That's called being a control freak.

    Also, him assuming that you are afraid of everything seemed like he actually just generalized every petite person in this world.

    So yeah, will other guys see you the same way as this guy you left? No. At least not the sane guys. What this guy did was not something a sane guy would do. This guy you left seems kind of mentally ill. You leaving him was a good idea.

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  • LloydAsher

    It's more like your appearance and physique gave off a adorable nature that clearly resonated with the guys expectation. If you dont like to be called adorable I understand. Guys have a shit ton of tastes I'm kinda in the same boat as that guy. There are so many other guys who have other tastes.

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  • strangethingshappen

    Who cares, date a chick

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  • Doesnormalmatter

    I have a dick, and I would not be worried if I were you. This guy clearly was a little wacko, and you didn't like that so you got out. Hope he finds someone who appreciates that, but you can definently find someone who won't bother you in that way.

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    • palehorse

      Not just wacko - borderline abusive. Even if it wasn't intentional, this is clearly manipulative behavior - especially the part where he tries to cut her off from others. Jesus...

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      • RoseIsabella

        Most definitely! I sure as Hell have no use for some bastard who thinks he can tell me where I can go, and with whom I can associate. Fuck that bullshit!

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      • Doesnormalmatter

        If that cut off from others part was like a long term thing, that is pretty fucked. I do feel OP is maybe exagerating how bad it was a little bit, so I don't like to assume the worst. But either way, it is a damn good thing she got the fuck out!

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        • RoseIsabella

          Nope, I don't think it's appropriate to invalidate OP, by suggesting that she was exaggerating.

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          • Doesnormalmatter

            I did not invalidate her! I said it was a good thing she got the fuck out. Please explain how that is invalidating? Also, see my above reply to Ellenna.

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            • RoseIsabella

              I completely agree with your comment that it's a good thing that she got the fuck out! What I take issue with is that you said that you think she's exaggerating. Accusing someone who is a survivor of an abusive relationship like OP of exaggerating is an invalidating thing to do.

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        • Ellenna

          You "do feel" that based on what evidence? I agree with your last sentence

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          • Doesnormalmatter

            I think poeple do like to paint things worse than they are sometimes, but maybe not this OP. It was just what I guessed. But either way, she didn't like it and she got out. The details donn't really matter too much any rate.

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            • Ellenna

              It may make you feel wise or smart to make uninformed guesses about people, but it's a pointless waste of time. Why do you bother?

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        • palehorse

          Yeah.

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