Women today

Today's woman is a real challenge to handle. My last few girlfriends have had gender role hypocrisy. The girl wants you to treat her like a woman in all the traditional ways - paying for her, bringing home the money for the household, keeping the courting interesting, doing fix-it chores around the house, etc. In short, she wants the man to perform on all the traditional male roles, however, she doesn't want to do any of the traditional female roles like cleaning and taking care of the household, having dinner ready when he comes home, and being sexually submissive. In short, they want to have their cake and eat it too. Women say they want equality, but it appears to be only selective equality that they want. They want equal pay with men, but still expect the man to pay for almost everything. I call all this the "princess syndrome", where women want a prince to marry them and live happily ever after (a standard almost no man can live up to in reality). They complain about the man not living up to their expectations for the traditional man, but they're not even trying to live up to the traditional role for a woman. It's hypocritical. I have dated women from America and from other countries and American women appear to be the most like I've described. Is it normal that I feel this way?

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  • dom180

    Interesting. I'm not going to say you are wrong, I actually think that you argue your point very well, but I think a lot of men actually *like* it this way. A lot of men would prefer a strong, independant woman, but also like the feeling of being the main provider. For example, a lot of men *like*, if they can afford to, to pay for things for their girl, it gives them a sense of control and general "manliness".

    I agree with you this philosophy is hypocritical and a general bad thing, and I believe that sexism in both directions exists in society. All these questions about equal rights are great, but it is often impossible to find a solution. For example, in the "forced fatherhood" arguement, I agree that forced fatherhood is wrong, but in many cases it is either forced fatherhood or forced abortion, and we have to choose one as the lesser of two evils.

    Please, correct me if I've got something wrong or if you disagree.

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  • Women today are much like you explained, not all, but alot of them are.

    However, you should be aware that even though you lived through it, everyone on this site will say you're wrong. It seems that even on here that the idea that females only want the benefits of equality is "Un-true" but state anything that females have that males hsould also have, then we're "just being sexist".

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    • bananaface

      I agree with the OP, and I'm a woman:/

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  • AngAnders112

    you can always switch to option B

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  • KacyWatson

    Well! As a princess myself I am shocked! Women are all gorgeous and we can do whatever we please. We want better so we shall have better. We women are all deserving of the hight standards.

    We shall have all the cake and eat it as we wish! :)

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    • GaelicPotato

      You don't really think this do you?

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      • KacyWatson

        Absolutely.

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  • I'm yet to hear a female say that males should get a benefit that females have.

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    • charli.m

      Not trying to be rude here, I'm genuinely drawing a blank (but it has been a long day...thinking is hard)...what benefits do we have that men want?

      Just to clarify - I totally agree with the OP...I can't stand women who expect this of dates, etc, same as I can't stand when men I date try to pay for everything or treat me like I'm fragile - I earn, so why can't I pay my own way?

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      • You have more than you think but I do agree that you don't have as much as males.
        Abortions is one. If a female isn't ready to be a parent then she gets an abortion if she wants, a male doesn't get to escape parenthood if he doesn't want to be a father yet. I'm not saying males should get the choice for females to abort the baby, I'm saying males should get the choice to be a father or not while the choice to actualy abort the child is the females.
        I made this point on a poll recently and females completely bashed it. I was implying equal treatment to males on the subject as much as females have choice on the matter.

        I have to say, from what you have said that you seem like a good woman. More females should be like you.
        Hopefully you understand my point on the abortion thing.

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        • charli.m

          Yeah, that is a good point - guys do get 'trapped' with that one (not the word I'm looking for, a bit contentious potentially, but best I can come up with right this second), which really is more unfair on the child than anything, but that's another matter.

          I'm kinda stuck on that one, cos I agree a man should have a choice whether or not he wants to be a father - but then I feel the child needs to have a father where possible (to me, two parents in a loving relationship is the ideal - obviously not always the reality. Of course a father forced into parenthood would potentially be resentful of the situation/child, so that's hardly an ideal situation...in which case, one could argue that no father would be better...)

          Ah life is complex...

          Anyway, I'm rambling now. But thanks for answering my question.

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          • I also agree, that's one of the points I make on the whole subject. Why would a female want to have a child with someone that doesn't want their child? What effect would that have on the child knowing that they weren't wanted? Females don't get enough wrap for bringing children into this world when they aren't in a sustainable family.

            No problem, you asked, I answer.

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  • Faceless

    Its a 2011 pal and not the fuckin 1800s. As Bob Dylan says, "the times they are a changing so get with it or go fuck yourself." He didnt say the last part though, that was my wise gift to you.

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    • littlelulu1999

      hahaha...great post 'faceless'

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  • rocketdave

    In the UK women work under different employment laws than men, they have many built in protections. I have no problem with women being on equal pay etcetera but they should have the same rules to follow as men. They only want to cotton pick the best bits.

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  • GuvnorsOtherWoman

    'Traditional female roles'
    Who the hell decides what is traditional here? If a woman wants to be a 'princess', then that's her choice and if she prefers independence, that is also her choice.
    As for being 'sexually submissive', all I can say is that the days when a woman was the legal property of her man are long gone and no woman should be submissive.

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  • paigemaster1990

    I'm a female but I hate when guys are always trying to do everything for me. I would rather pay for every thing on my own because if something did happen between me and my boyfriend I'd like to know I could make it on my own. I'm very independent.

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  • TheHOTTIEbarhar

    That is one reason why I would never date an American woman. I never have and refused all that asked me out :)

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  • Troll

    Yes! Women have a secret conspiracy against us manly men! They want us to pay for all those years they spent being slaves to our manly asses! We must terminate all them before it's to late! ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!

    Damn hill Billy get a life please? I have more of a life then you tyvm.

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  • littlelulu1999

    to bounce off of joybird's post:

    try hiring a housekeeper, cook and nanny for your girlfriend/wife...that way she can focus exclusively on 1)working and paying her fair share of bills, and 2)providing you with sex;

    or YOU can hire YOURSELF a housekeeper, cook, a surrogate to have your kids, nanny to raise them, pay your own bills, and just hire a hooker for sex...

    problem solved...

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  • joybird

    I'm the original 'spoilt bitch'! My husband deliberately made me this way so that no other man could stick me.

    I get breakfast in bed, he drops me off to the pub to go out with the lads, gives me all his money, does the shopping, makes dinner after working all day, employs a housekeeper while I'm at home 24/7 etc. etc. What other man could compete / compare?

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    • littlelulu1999

      damn joybird, you hit the lotto with that man...

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      • GaelicPotato

        Head game better be strong.

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        • KacyWatson

          Yes. Women are awesome.

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  • Stop bitching about women then
    And be Gay.

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    • littlelulu1999

      even better post 'fire'....LMAO

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  • lc1988

    I do see this a lot in some of my friend's relationships. Instead of cooking, they bring home something from taco bell. It's not the old days though where only the male has to work to support both of them. I guess it does depend on the woman though. I cooked for my bf pretty much every day while he would be at the gym. I'd text him on my home from work just to see what time he'd be home. After that was cleaned up, I'd make him lunch as well for the next day...then sex..then homework time for me while he went to sleep. This worked and I actually really enjoyed it mutually taking care of each other. I guess my message in this is don't give up hope. Not all women have lost the instinct to stay in the kitchen lol. I see where you're coming from though.

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  • Wait, then why did you date them ? Not all women are like that, but if you don't like this kind, then why go for it? Are you blaming then for your own choice? And if you really love them, then you should want the best for them and whatever they want. If they love you, their princess syndrome naturally goes down even without them knowing it. Anyways, the point is, you fully brung the problem upon yourself; I don't see what your bitching about. It's like picking the pink cotton candy and complaining about how it's not as good as the blue one. You picked it, now shut up. Why don't we talk about men that expect everything? The prince syndrome, perhaps.

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