Women, have you ever flirted to get your way?

TLDR absoluely fucking not, but I have a super SUPER long answer.

I'll just keep it seperate for those who don't like novels.

The reason I have a bunch to say is because I've actually spoken to quite a few women about this, more out of curiosity than the desire to be rude or anything, but I've gotten some interesting answers as to why people engage in this behavior. And the range of answers was pretty enlightening. It ranges from women who find it empowering to use men who they are convinced want to use them for sex, all the way to women who pretend to be helpless because they are convinced men find it attractive.

I mean, I don't generally express my opinion on the matter in conversation but it is as follows:

It is not empowering:

I don't know where this one came from, but many women feel resentful of being used for sex I guess, and consider it a quid pro quo clarice situation where they own men by eliciting favors?

This, to me, is ridiculous learned helplessness. Being able to take care of yourself is what it means to be empowered, and (lowball) a functioning adult. Are there certain things women can't physically do? Sure. Saw some man pretending to be woman complaining on this thread about not being able to lift furniture??? If you can't do something, manage it yourself. Get a job and hire a mover. Get a furniture dolly. Bake some weed brownies and invite friends or family over to help. Use the same resources that old people, disabled people, and men with no upper body strength use...those resources exist for a reason and they exist for everyone. I can't because of mehhhh estrogens is fucking lazy childlike bullshit.

As convienent as it is to have easy help, by doing nothing you learn nothing. If you don't know how to change a tire, put coolant in a radiator, get a bid from a plumber, fix a shelf or start a savings account, then you're just a giant, defective, retarded adult toddler blindly bumbling through life like a clutz who somehow got lucky enough not to fall down 5 flights of stairs. Having no life skills is not cute, it's sad. Everyone gets old & ugly...whatcha gonna do then? Be like the old ladies at every office who think a 10 lbs hinkley spring bottle is Olympic level weightlifting? The 50 year old chain smoking lady who flashed her flappy teats at random teenaged pizza delivery boys hoping for a free dinner? No. Stop.

It's dangerous:

If you want a guy to help you carry something here and there, all good, but I've seen way too many girls be really overly sexual at bars and stuff to score free drinks. Sexual overtones + an absolute stranger + intoxication...that's fucking terrifying. What are you doing!!?? You don't know this guy...he could think he's owed something and then you have a drunk, angry person with low ambitions. That's scary!!! WHAT...is violent date rape worth a few free margaritas...no, you guys

It's cruel and manipulative:

I just talked about scary guy, what about not scary guy? Lot's of women love to assume that every man who spends time and money on them in exchange for sexual attention is a predator. That's not true at all. There's plenty of introverted, socially awkward men who are scared to talk to women who offer to buy a drink because they don't know how else to approach women. Using those people is cruel and gross and it probably makes them feel even more insecure.

Also, nice men exist. Kind, good men (what!?). I've accepted help from men before when I genuinely needed help. I've had people, strangers who have disrupted their entire day to help me for hours and refused to accept a thank you or a reward (pay it forward was the response I got from them). It wasn't sexual at all. It was human decency. Well, idk what these men would've done if they had just been used by 25 ex girlfriends and random women...maybe leave me on the side of the road? Everyone who does nasty, cruel, manipulative things should bear a bit of the cross involved in creating nasty, cruel people.

It's not fucking cute:

I have no idea where this notion that playing helpless and dumb has gained traction as an attractive female characteristic, but if you see a guy that likes that...run....RUN FOREST

It may seem romantic to have a guy treat you like you're a sweet, delicate damsel in distress and always swoop in to rescue you. So romantic.

Well think about what it says if a guy is super into that...if he loves to save you, if he loves to explain life to you, if he loves to rescue, if that's what he thinks you are...

Then
He thinks you are stupid
He thinks you are weak
He thinks you are helpless
He thinks you need him to survive
AND THEN HE GETS A WEIRD BONER FROM IT
Why would you want to date someone who has such a fucking low opinion of you??? You wanna date that guy? You're gonna have a bad time. That's a huge red flag. Huge.

Date a guy who helps you, but also believes in you and respects you and expects you to be strong on your own. Date a guy that encourages you to be strong enough to take care of yourself.

Fuck, ladies
nut up

Lugnuts get tightened in a star formation.

This kinda bullshit is not my style.

I don’t think it is. I’ve never done it.

There's a guy on YouTube that baits hot women with rented or borrowed exotic sports cars, which they gladly get into willingly. Then he has a friend come "get my car back" and walks her over to a beat up old Honda. Chases most of the women right off. Now tell me some women don't flirt to get what they want.

Real talk I flirted with people last year so I could get free in game items in Animal Crossing. Haven't done it since, but damn it was easy as hell. XD

Nope but I can see why one would, it's an easy way to get what you want. However i've had men flirt with me that way. Last time I stayed at a hotel they upgraded me to a better room for no extra charge (they also did this to a classmate of mine who stayed there) and also gave me free coffee when I wanted to buy some. Not sure what the guy expected that would lead to but he was quite flirty.

You have to be resourceful in life and make the most of whatever is available when solving problems. So let’s say I have some heavy objects to move, for example some furniture. If I had been born a man, it is highly probable that I would have a greater level of physical strength due to the high level of testosterone in men. This is a well known and accepted fact. In that case moving the heavy object would likely be a relatively easy task. However as a woman I have less physical strength, I didn’t choose to be a woman it’s just how I was born so it’s not my fault that I am not as strong. But what I do have is the ability to flutter my eyelids at a strong man and ask for his help. Men have a natural tendency to help a damsel in distress (so to speak) so I get my heavy piece of furniture moved by using the resources available to me.

This hot chic one time came up to me flirting asking me if ill pay for her redbox dvd. I was like hell no you aint gonna return that shit. Wish I woulda said something slick like "you can come over and watch it with me". Ill never forgive myself

The shorter list would be who hasn't flirted to get their way. It starts as a young child when they use the pouty lips and go "dad-deeeeeeee, please"

I’ve never done it, and even if I did it most likely would not work. I’m not exactly a looker.

Flirting, in varying degrees, can be playful, or sexual, or manipulative.... depending on the intent of the 'flirter'.

If your intent is to "get what you want" in a relationship, you might be with a weaker person, or the wrong person who tolerates it.

Men AND women BOTH flirt, for many reasons. If you have to "flirt" with someone, because being straightforward, and simply asking for what you want doesn't work.... then it is manipulative.

If you flirt to be playful, or if it's meant in a sexual way, it can be adorable.

I'm too ugly, so even if I wanted to, my flirting wouldn't be effective

everyday lol

Never did it