Why is western society so feminized ?

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It's men that have built it up and maintain it. I say this as a woman myself, I certainly do not want to do the jobs that most men do on a daily basis. The discussions I have had with girlfriends regarding gender equality don't really make sense. Most of my friends seem to think equality is how they define it individually, instead of as a whole, as in equal or not equal.

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  • CozmoWank
    7 years ago

    Are cowboys starting to sit sidesaddle?

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  • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk
    7 years ago

    so move to saudi arabia then

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  • vaas
    7 years ago

    most men don't want to do their jobs either but they still do it because they want to and need to. not every woman is a lazy fuck like you who sits at home leeching on her husbands hard earned money.

    there a woman who want to be dependant and work for something (not saying all woman who don't work are bad though as everyone is different and has their reason)

    i'm a man but honestly this whole "men have built society" is bullshit as both genders have achieved different things in history and invented new things. the only reason men MIGHT have been more recognized done slightly more is because oh i don't know women weren't even allowed to fucking work? how do you expect a woman to help build society when they weren't even allowed to?

    of course today they can and because of that we are seeing more things built/made by woman. who gives a fuck if it's "feminized"? we're advancing as a society quicker than before because now the entire population is putting it's effort in, not just one gender.

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    • felixy
      7 years ago

      You might want to get your testosterone checked. Sounds low. Men build and destroy civilizations. Men are natural risk takers—our value is tied to what we achieve. Not how nice we are in bed.

      You say women weren't allowed to work, which is incorrect, they just didn't do more than menial work for most of human history. Why do you even think that was? Because mean old, ancient men scorned them and beat them and doubted them? Or maybe, just maybe, women aren't geared towards advancing societies, instead, they were given the tools to repopulate and keep the species alive.

      Both important, but different jobs.

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      • vaas
        7 years ago

        no wonder your comment is thumb downed and mine isn't

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        • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk
          7 years ago

          thats a cheap and lame retort

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          • vaas
            7 years ago

            that's why i posted it, because he is also lame

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  • Ellenna
    7 years ago

    And just who do you think was raising the children, cooking the food, washing the clothes, keeping the home clean while men were out there building society?

    You obviously know nothing about history: even in "advanced" western countries women didn't even have the vote until about a hundred years ago and that wasn't handed to women on a plate, they had to fight hard for it.

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    • Murun
      7 years ago

      In Britain women got the vote about ten years after the average man (ie not a land owner) got the vote.

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      • Ellenna
        7 years ago

        So that would be why British women had to agitate for the vote from late in the 19th century until after WWI, would it?

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  • RoseIsabella
    7 years ago

    WTF?

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    • CorruptedSoul
      7 years ago

      Amen sista

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  • felixy
    7 years ago

    If you wanted to control a society, you'd want to discourage masculinity. It might just be the difference in grey matter vs white matter, but a more feminized, submissive population is more controllable.

    And if you don't think there are groups willing and able to control mass populations this way, then you're in for a few surprises.

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    • wigz
      7 years ago

      Like Nazis or North Korea? I don't think submissive = feminine in many cases. It seems like the most controlled peoples overall still live(d) in a patriarchy. A very strongly skewed patriarchy.

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      • felixy
        7 years ago

        Close. Consider South Korea and President Park. It's a different kind of control.

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        • wigz
          7 years ago

          So, an unsustainable nation? South Korea has the lowest fertility rate vs necessary growth. It's basically THE most in crisis nation along with Japan showing how an aging population vs a low birthrate affects an economy. What is your point?

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          • felixy
            7 years ago

            My point is that South Korea is an example of what western civilizations are trending towards. It's also the closest thing to a matriarchy we have right now. They're rioting for a lot of reasons besides not being able to play MMOs past midnight.

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            • wigz
              7 years ago

              Of course that's your simplistic response.

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    • Ellenna
      7 years ago

      Ha Ha, you think women are submissive and controllable? I have news for you, moron, not any more we're not!

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      • felixy
        7 years ago

        You make it sound like there's concious control here. This isn't a matter of rights. It has more to do with the reason 50 Shades of Grey became a bestseller among women.

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        • Ellenna
          7 years ago

          You obviously don't know the difference between fantasy and reality: in fact in my experience strong assertive independent women are just as likely (maybe more so) to indulge in submissive fantasies and acts while being nothing resembling submission in the rest of their lives.

          50 Shades of Grey, apart from being so badly written and cliche ridden it's laughable, does provide fantasy material for women who can cope with reading something verging on illiteracy, ditto the movie, which is so badly acted it's funny.

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          • felixy
            7 years ago

            And in my experience there are strong women, but there are no truly assertive and independent women. It's a miserable farce, a feminist meme. It disregards what femininity even means.

            Women aren't going to lead a revolution against the government, they're going to support welfare and dependency programs. They aren't going to take up arms for a cause greater than defending their family. If I'm some globalist evil world order group seeking control, I want more women in positions of power. I'd want the sex with the natural tendency to submit and survive than the one inclined to dominate and take risks.

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            • Ellenna
              7 years ago

              You know nothing about history: women may not be as prone to "take up arms" as men, but there are other ways of changing the world for the better and women have always been involved in doing that, both for themselves, their families and society in general.

              If you haven't come across truly assertive and independent women, you've been looking in the wrong places or more likely, your misogyny and wishful thinking is blinding you.

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  • wigz
    7 years ago

    What does that even mean?

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      7 years ago

      If you have to ask for clarification you probably shouldn't try to answer the question in the first place. It's a pretty straightforward question. Take a look at your average commercial/sitcom (in the West) and the husband character is almost always portrayed as a whining, spineless, bumbling idiot. And the woman is portrayed as very strong, assertive, and borderline masculine. I don't know how to explain it any better than this. Most of my girlfriends expect romantic, preferential treatment from men in general (i.e. being taken care of) when it benefits them but see no problem talking about wanting equal treatment at the same time.

      That doesn't make sense at all. If you can explain it in a way that equal treatment AND romantic, preferential treatment can co-exist please do so, but I just can't see how both work together. It's either one or the other.

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      • wigz
        7 years ago

        So, your best example is that some stuff on tv portrays men as bumbling idiots? There's a whole mountain of shows, movies and ads where men are heroes. The majority of sitcoms that I am familiar with are not how you describe. The bumbling husband IS most definitely a tv trope but it's far from the most prevalent one.

        And what are your preferences and expectations in a relationship?

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      • Ellenna
        7 years ago

        I didn't realise all those sitcoms were accurate documentaries ... my mistake

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  • catru
    7 years ago

    Why is this site so full of deceptive questioners?

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