Why cant some guys see why they cant get laid?

I hear guys complaining both online and irl that they cant get sex and women dont like them but if you see how they act toward women you see why they cant get their attention.

Guys, if you follow a few guidelines you will get laid 40 percent of the time:

Have impeccable hygiene and dress nice. Clothes dont have to be expensive but clean and straight

Be respectful. This is most important of all.

Dont ever talk about sex. Let her bring up the idea. Think about it... if you bring it up she will see you as only wanting that from her and will be offended.

Be humble. Very few women see arrogance as attractive.

When she finally does bring sex up, be careful of how you word your response and be subtle. Women like subtle.

There are more things you can do of course but this covers the basics. Ladies, feel free to add your views.

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  • Clunk42

    Does anyone else feel as though this post is patronizing?

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    • charli.m

      Guess that depends on whether you're the OPs target audience.

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      • Clunk42

        I mean, I'm not in op's target audience, as all I want is a wife, and I believe sex is purely for married couples, (I don't care when, though). Yet, I can't help but feel this is patronizing.

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        • charli.m

          Also, in response to your asking what a "time in" was (posts been deleted, or OP blocked me).

          http://www.pcafamilies.org.au/uploaded-files/Time-in-versus-Time-Out-FINAL_1398130593.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiwzc3x6NHkAhXe_XMBHc0UCYAQFjAEegQIDxAI&usg=AOvVaw1i9fXwlLJOMDH00ggfp6xN

          That link is regarding children who have been though trauma, but the principle applies to any child.

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          • Clunk42

            The requested URL /uploaded-files/Time-in-versus-Time-Out-FINAL_1398130593.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiwzc3x6NHkAhXe_XMBHc0UCYAQFjAEegQIDxAI&usg=AOvVaw1i9fXwlLJOMDH00ggfp6xN was not found on this server.

            Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

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        • charli.m

          Sure. But that doesn't mean you cant show all those...uh...qualities OP mentions.

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          • Clunk42

            The only one of those I don't follow is the one about respect. I'm polite to most people, but respect must be earned. Even my friends don't get too much respect for a lot of the crap they do.

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            • RoseIsabella

              If they do lots of stupid crap, and aren't worthy of your respect then why are you friends with them?

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    • RoseIsabella

      No, I don't think this post is patronizing at all.

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    • thepeepeepoopooman

      It sounds like he is just listing off his own recent discoveries about how to behave around women.

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      • Clunk42

        How do you know op's a he?

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        • thepeepeepoopooman

          Oh, I didn't consider it could be a woman. in that case I see what you mean by condescending, but also the comment about target audience, since it's addressing men who don't know these basic social skills.

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  • Holzman_67

    Whilst you bring up some valid points you are generalising here. And I had to laugh when you said women don’t like arrogance, Ive lived on the planet 35 years and noticed the exact opposite the whole time.

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    • TerriAngel

      Theres a fine line between confidence and arrogance.

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      • Holzman_67

        Very true.

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  • Iron your shirt and say "Please and thank you" and you get sex.
    - This guy.

    It's really not as simple as that. Infact this whole subject tends to come across as patronizing a lot of the time it's brought up. No, you're not going to get sex by ironing your shirt and being nice, women know this and try to convince men of this as if men are newbies in the world and don't have experience living in it.
    I often have to laugh when women bring up this subject as they really don't understand the difference in what's required for men and women to get laid and they do this really patronizing speech where they pretend that women have 0% of shallow preferences.

    The truth is, it's not that simple, not impossible (obvs) but not that simple. If you're not a good lookin' guy then you're gonna have a bad time, you're going to have to work far more than any average man, attractive man, or woman does in order to compensate for a shovel face, such as working out and changing your personality to be more humorous and engaging, you also need to lower your expectation on getting some super attractive lady sleeping with you. An important one is that it's trial and error, don't give up on getting laid just because you were rejected once, twice, three times, etc.

    Personally never had these issues myself but I sympathize with the folk that can't get laid. Don't ever think you're bad for wanting to get laid and should stop trying but definitely don't let it be the only thing on your to-do list, that would just be torture.

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  • Clunk42

    "Be respectful. This is most important of all." Man, this sort of thing annoys me. People using the phrase "be respectful" interchangably with "be polite." These do not mean the same thing. Rspect must be earned. If you claim you're an apache attack helicoptor un-ironically without roleplaying, you don't deserve my respect. If you want to go stick a thumb tack on someone's chair, you'll have no respeect from me about things involving that "prank." Politeness, on the other hand, is far easier to earn than respect. Murderers, for example, don't deserve either. Politeness is simply common courtesy, while respect is something one must truly feel the other deserves. Just because you don't respect someone doesn't mean you shouldn't be polite to them. Just because you're polite to someone doesn't mean you have any respect for them.

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    • Holzman_67

      Such a good point and well made.

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  • McBean

    DANGER: FRIEND ZONE. Your advice is the perfect recipe for the dreaded friend zone. Of course, if you are attractive, she will exempt you and you will soon find yourself in bed with her.

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    • thepeepeepoopooman

      The "friend zone" isn't real once you've emotionally matured past middle school. If a woman tells you she'd rather be friends after your advances, it means she doesn't like you but is worried you might go on a shooting spree over it.

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      • Clunk42

        The "friend zone" is entered those by wanting to ask someone out, but not doing so. Those who ask people out don't get friend zoned; rather, they get rejected.

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        • McBean

          That's right. This advice will get you laid zero percent of the time. Women will never bring up sex. They will be civil, and pleasant even tho they know they will never want you. This is known as the friend zone.

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          • ellnell

            You can actually get out of the "friend zone" if you are respectful etc. It's more common than it seems that a man and a woman who were really good friends for years eventually both realize they're in love especially if there's never been any pressure.
            It's more common among adults though and it's usually teenagers who bitch about stuff like "the friendzone" online and who do literally everything wrong to get their friends interest on a romantic level because they're immature and clueless.

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            • McBean

              Except it doesn't matter. Women only want the most attractive men. If you are a guy with scars, crooked teeth, or any deformities, women will treat you like shit no matter what.

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  • Ummitsstillme

    Historically men didn't always get laid. Only the survivors of battles were able to procreate. There is a current culture of entitlement and participation -equals- worthy that leads a bunch of dog shit men to think they are special.

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  • Unknown_player

    Anyone who just wants to be with someone for sex is probably gonna get some disliking for that, people really be out here nowadays trying to find the one they wanna spend the rest of their lives with and perverts only aim for the one thing with them of course they'll get rejected if someone's looking for more than a quick fuck

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  • Boojum

    "Clothes dont have to be expensive but clean and straight"

    As opposed to dirty gay clothing, I assume.

    Like the 40% statistic too. You have a scientific survey to support that number, or is it made up just as 63.27% of statistics you see in IIN posts are?

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  • cupcake_wants

    Good advice for men.

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  • bigbudchonga

    I agree that a lot of guys do stupid shit that stops them getting laid, but a lot of the rules you've laid out certainly wouldn't help you get laid. A lot of women think they want one thing but then want another.

    I know guys with great game, and they don't follow those rules. Also, the most times I've got shagged I've brought up sex first. Most women like a confident guy who will make the first move; and not some meek guy who has a rule about not bringing up sex.

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  • strawberryfieldsforever

    I agree with a lot of your points except for the "let the woman bring up sex first". I prefer when the man brings in up to me first bc I'm way too much of a pussy too ask about it to begin with. You have to push me into it in order to make me feel comfortable talking about it.

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  • LloydAsher

    Some of us do try. It's just that this society is making guys out like we are all bad eggs.

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  • momwatcher69

    Having manners, and hygiene, is always a good idea.
    I don't think this post is patronizing. I think it's common sense.

    A LOT of guys (some on here) complainf they don't "get laid", and when you read their comments, and how they think about women, it's fairly easy to understand why.

    Any woman who would fuck these cavemen, is either a hooker, or has a low opinion, of herself.

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