What do you think of the caravan trying to enter the us

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What do you think of the Caravan that is currently trying to enter the US? In case you don't know or haven't really heard about it, the Caravan is made up of mostly of people from Central America and started in Honduras. They are trying to claim asylum to get in the US, but refused Mexico's offer of asylum. I personally wouldn't really care about what is going on if they were trying to enter in a peacefully and by going through the process, but they have been throwing rocks at border police and trying to rush the border then people get mad when border officials use tear gas so they will stop. I'm just kind of curious as to what people on here think about what is going on.

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  • Columbusbiguy
    5 years ago

    There is not an outcome in this situation that will satisfy all. You are an as spoke if you say they can't come in. And you are a bleeding heart if you let everyone in. This is a lose-lose situation.

    Personally, I think we have too much poverty, crime, and social service issues that affect a large portion of our current residents that we need to be able to get a handle on. Letting in more and more uneducated, low skilled workers does not help. Provide living wages for our nation's poor and take care of our business before trying to handle everyone elses.

    We cannot be all things to all people.

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  • RoseIsabella
    5 years ago

    I haven't been actively following the situation with the caravan, because there's nothing I can do about it. I don't support people who throw rocks, and think they have a right to seek asylum in the United States. Nowadays the mainstream media is very biased towards so called political correctness. I don't think we really need these people if they aren't properly vetted.

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  • Lestat565
    5 years ago

    What we are doing is messed up. The mainstream media doesn’t show what led up to them throwing rocks. Only that it’s the scary brown people who are mostly families with kids. How do we respond? Tear gas bombs. I guess the give me your tired, your hungry, your poor rule doesn’t include brown people. Would you want to go to Mexico. Or would you want to go to a county that claims to be so free. And so caring about other countries and people. It’s gone now. For the record what they did was legal before the rock throwing. And I completely disagree with them doing that. All it did was hurt their side. Now the mainstream media gets to say. See we told you those brown people were bad. We can’t let these savages in our great and good nation. Now let’s all jerk off to the families trying in vain to protect their kids from the gas. Aren’t we such good people?

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      5 years ago

      We let in over 1 million immigrants each year and close to 50,000 refugees each year. The majority of immigrants let into the country are Mexican. We are not against "brown people" coming to this country legally. We were evaluating the cases of those people, but they decided they couldn't wait and so instead they rushed the border. The police their do not have the man power to deal with that many potentially violent people directly so it's better to use a deterrent, like tear gas, to get people away rather than by physical means which could put the officers in harms way.

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    • Ummitsstillme
      5 years ago

      Except for Fox the msm is pretty pro illegals and caravan sympathetic. In all honesty the term "caravan" implies there are newfound hordes of illegals suddenly attepmting to cross the border. This has been happening forever. I'm pretty sure it comes from Trump's team as justification for a wall.

      Seriously though, no self respecting country can sustain itself if masses of non vetted people flood their borders. I'm all for mass LEGAL immigration, after all that is what made the U.S. great to begin with. A country that has infrastucture problems, a looming social security age gap time bomb, terrible health and very expensive healthcare doesnt need a bunch of potentially shitty people further clogging the shit hole.

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      • Anonymous Post Author
        5 years ago

        It is an actual caravan. There were a few thousand people marching up from Honduras to get to the US. Using the word caravan is no overstatement.

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    • [Old Memory]
      5 years ago

      Brown this, brown that. Attributing the caution that the USA has about free migration through the border to skin color just sounds like a scapegoat.

      Migrants need to be screened, especially those that come from impoverished, crime-ridden, or war-torn areas. Unfortunately, that's a slow and careful process, and not everyone may pass.

      They have to respect our laws and process, and we can't allow chaos to be sowed inside the country.

      If they behave violently and forcefully at the border, who's to say that they won't continue those behaviors once inside the country, if they deem it necessary?

      We don't know these people. Some can be decent, some can be bad. Looking at certain European countries, it's apparent that concerns about migrants aren't unfounded.

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  • BlindSpot
    5 years ago

    I think it's easy to pass judgements when we aren't on the ground, and we don't have the full story. With politics at play, these people are stuck in between, searching for the life we take for granted. The violence is an act of desperation, where their words keep falling on deaf ears, and the police retaliate with greater violence, indiscriminate to women or children. While restrictions should be in place and thorough checks done, the people should be treated like human beings.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      5 years ago

      They were being treated like humans. The courts were processing the asylum claims and that takes time. They are being treated like anyone else who would have done the same thing. The problem is they have no right to throw rocks at border police and no right to rush the border. When there are over 5,000 people claiming asylum in Tijuana alone it's not as easy as just let them in. 40 to 100 of them are being allowed to request asylum each day which is about the amount that the port of entry can process.

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      • BlindSpot
        5 years ago

        Have you seen their side of the story and looked at interviews with the immigrants or did you just get this information about their fair treatment from one of the major media houses looking to show off the government as heroes and win votes? It's easy to say if you were in that situation, you wouldn't do the same thing, because you haven't been forced to desperation and don't have the same weight of problems on you. I'm not saying condone, I'm saying try to understand the background of the situation. Police aren't innocent. I've been involved in protests and sometimes they provoke the crowd and even try to forcefully clear a peaceful crowd, which instigates violence.

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        • Anonymous Post Author
          5 years ago

          Obviously they aren't desperate enough as they did refuse Mexico's offer of asylum. People shouldn't have a right to pick and choose what country they go to for asylum. There are people worse of than them and people who have been waiting years to seek refuge from other countries here in the US from actual oppression. Most of the people in the Caravan are, in fact, adult men who are coming here to try to work and not because they are persecuted. I don't have a problem with that mentality, but coming here for work is not a reason to claim asylum and it never has been a reason to claim asylum. Those people should have instead applied for work visas and/or gone through the process to become citizens.

          They have every right to apply for asylum for any reason, but they can be turned down if it doesn't meet their criteria. Tear gas wouldn't have been used if they would have just waited to be processed like it's supposed to be. US border officials didn't even use the tear gas till they actually reached the border. What you don't seem to understand is that there aren't that many border police in one spot along the border. A few hundred people could easily over power the people at the border and what would you rather them have done? It would have been impossible to stop the violence and disperse the crowd trying to rush the border without the use of tear gas or would you have rather them to have started shooting at them and/or waiting for them to get across so the officers would have to put themselves in harms way by having to attempt to arrest every single one of them?

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          • drdnk957
            5 years ago

            So much this. Asylum seeking isn't like shopping, I have a comparison.

            A girl is being chased by a murderer, a man opens the door and offers to let her in, but she says no and keeps on running to the mansion at the end of the street, but they don't let her in and she gets killed (the cartels pose a real threat to all the so-called "migrants"). See how idiotic it all is?

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  • CDmale4fem
    5 years ago

    If we tried storming these other countries they would shoot us in site as soon as we cross the border. This is only thing I agree with trump about.

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  • Handyman
    5 years ago

    Let them in and pretty soon they will demand the USA to become the same as the country they had left because they hated it.

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  • [Old Memory]
    5 years ago

    They're already acting riotous, entitled and disrespectful. I don't want people like that here, frankly.

    Some of these people from 3rd and 2nd world countries have older fashioned values and traditions that I'm glad died out in America.

    Some have a tendency to breed like rats, which is partially why there are so many of them in this mess.

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    • Lestat565
      5 years ago

      Yeah cause if your country was trying to kill you your friends and family you would stay wouldn’t you? I didn’t know that trying to give your family and kids a better life and a future was old fashioned values. I’m sooo behind the times. And what values do we have? Apparently it’s gassing families. Now who I use to gas family’s? Oh that’s right the nazis. The breed like rats. Yeah stupid brown people wanting to have families like most of us. Only white people deserve to have that. Bullshit.

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      • Anonymous Post Author
        5 years ago

        We were actually looking at claims and waiting for courts decide whether or not their claims of asylum were valid, but that takes time. Not everyone in those are families or even good people.

        It's stupid to claim that the police were using tear gas on families because that is not what police see. The way police see it is that there was a group of people acting violently trying to cross the border illegally and to protect themselves rather than directly deal with that threat they decided to use tear gas as a deterrent.

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      • [Old Memory]
        5 years ago

        Of course it's not wrong of them to try to leave, but why, instead of accepting Mexico's offer of asylum, are they storming the border and throwing rocks?

        Mexico isn't good enough? They seem to feel entitled to the US government's help, as they won't respect our process, or perhaps refusal.

        It's not about them being brown. I have a problem with Western ghetto people and druggies who breed children into poverty, crime, abuse and suffering.

        Anyone who can't keep their pants on until they can secure a future for their offspring is a dumbass.

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  • nikkiclaire
    5 years ago

    Make them go through the legal system. Then if they still want to enter and can....let them. It costs about 9k tho

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  • JD777
    5 years ago

    Pretty simple. Migrants good, storming our border bad. Also, getting asylum status requires very specific criteria, otherwise the migrant enters like any other migrant at an entry point. I’ve watched the various videos of the pepper spraying and it’s completely clear it was primarily military age men storming the border enmasse and throwing rocks and other objects at our security people while they tried to force through the fence. We can’t let it happen that way. The DHS has had plenty of time to put agents in the caravan and assess who’s in there. The latest intel is that most are men, 90% are not eligible for asylum status, over 600 known convicted criminals. You can argue the numbers, but it’s clear these people need to be vetted individually like any other migrant - not let in because they violently forced their way in.

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  • chuy
    5 years ago

    I'm no racist, But I think they should go back home they're mot going to get anywhere they're either going to get killed by the cartel, or the border patrol.

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  • bigbudchonga
    5 years ago

    I think it stands as an example of just how bad of a governmental system democracy is.

    You have people who are trying to use force to enter the strongest country in the world, and the county itself has been so neutered by pussies that vote that they're willing to waste millions, instead of shooting a couple as a warning.

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