What comes first? thought or knowledge?
Personally I think knowledge... I don't know why but it just feels like the right answer.
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Justsomejerk
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Aleks85
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JustinBiebsFan#1
I stuck my finger up my ass with out any lube. Is this bad? After my ass hole kind felt bad and it hurt for a couple of day. It did not bleed or anything it just hurt. But it was kinda red. I did this twice. And it still hurts a few months after. Should I go see a doctor?
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nobleserpent
I think you have to define "Knowledge" and "Thought" before you try and determine which one flows from the other.
As the Chinese would say, "Wisdom begins first at the defining of the simplest things".
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flutterhigh
I can't believe you're the only person who has brought this up. Everyone's jumping in and saying "well knowledge duh" or "I think thought", but the question is absolutely meaningless without setting the grounds for what we're talking about here.
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nobleserpent
Agreed. But I gave up my expectations for productive thinking a long time ago.
Most people are perpetuators of thought, not originators of it. And even those who can think most often don't think impartially but seek that which will only solidify their own pre-conceived notions.
If you were to ask me I'd say that man himself is an idea conscious of his own reality and that there are degrees of reality.
My proof for that is nothing but a preconceived notion (lol) that I find it absurd something so grand as consciousness can flow from something so petty and mindless as blood, sinew, and bone.
My definition for "Thought"- The awareness of your own reality.
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suckonthis9
Thought came first. The word 'thought' came into use before the 12th century. 'Knowledge' came into use in the 14th century. I think it's reasonable then to state that someone (an English speaker) must have thought about creating the word knowledge.
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[Old Memory]
Knowledge.
I'm guessing of course, but I was thinking about babies and how if they are not taught (increasing their knowledge) anything by their parents, their brains would not properly develop and they'd end up with permanent brain damage.
Kids are like little aliens visiting Earth for the first time: you have to show them how EVERYTHING works and they constantly ask "why". Learning about the world around them allows them to develop thoughts and opinions of their own.
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gncp
Knowledge comes first says Mr. Webster as well as Mr. Barron and Mr. Oxford.
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Glass
Without thought all you are is walking database, unable to put any knowledge to use.
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iisabel
wow why did so many people vote for thought??? you have to have some sort of knowledge of anything at all, even knowledge of your own existence, before you can have any thought. thoughts contain knowledge of whatever you already know.
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thinkingaboutit
What knowledge do we have without thinking stuff up? Is this really that tricky?
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[Old Memory]
It can be either way. Knowing something might give you a thought about something. Thinking about something may lead you to learn about it.
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Megid
An abstract developed by observation precedes knowledge.
However, education and natural instinct are exceptions.
With education, you apply knowledge to a thought.
Do you define natural instinct as knowledge?
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ChanandlerBong
But how would you think if you didn't KNOW(ledge) anything? I think you gotta know something before thinking about it. Since a blind person (since birth) doesn't KNOW what color is, how can they comtemplate and think about the color green? If a deaf person (since birth) doesn't KNOW what sounds are like, what can they think about music?
Yes, thought leads to more knowledge, but knowledge is the foundation, the basic the starting point. Thought is like an arrow (progressing) while knowledge is like a point where the arrow leads to. You need a starting point because an arrow doesn't come out from nowhere.
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suckonthis9
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ChanandlerBong
knowl·edge/ˈnälij/
Noun:Information and skills acquired through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject.
To me, that counts as knowing
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suckonthis9
knowledge: noun
2 a (1) : the fact or condition of knowing something with familiarity gained through experience or association (2) : acquaintance with or understanding of a science, art, or techniqueQuestion: Could a person produce science, art or technique without first thinking about it?
Cognitive Science also supports this.
The fundamental concept of cognitive science is “that thinking can best be understood in terms of representational structures in the mind and computational procedures that operate on those structures.”Once a person develops knowledge through thought processes, they can then apply that knowledge to new stimuli or thoughts. It is a type of a feedback loop.
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ChanandlerBong
Nice job on your explanation! I had to think over this one... But a person first has to have knowledge of the most basic things, maybe so basic that were not even aware or conscious of, to conclude the most simplest of thoughts, then it would further grow into complex knowledge/thoughts cycle (like in your last point).
So, answering your question... a person has to have KNOWLEDGE (or knowing, having held my belief that knowing is knowledge) of what science/art/technique is and if it even exists before they think and jump into conclusions about it.
Again that's one of the most basic and simple knowledge that we don't bother to notice because its so often implied. Therefore, I believe knowledge comes first.Comment Hidden ( show )
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Captain_Kegstand
If you never have the thought, you will never strive to learn the knowledge. How would you pick up knowledge with out thought?
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dappled
I literally have no idea. But I'd assume knowledge is the residue of thought, so I'd say thought.
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[Old Memory]
Depends. I think both are good, but together they are at the best they can be. I think knowledge is all about learning about things that is already discovered, where as thought makes you try to create and progress things. If you add the two together, you progress knowledge.
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Lolada
You have to have Knowledge in some degree of the subject or else you can't begin to think a good thought.
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