To everyone who does not believe in mental disorders...

So, more and more, I keep hearing people say they think mental disorders are fake. This bothers me a lot more than it should, but I have good reason. I have been diagnosed with Dysthymia, or chronic depression. This is basically when someone develops depression that persists for at least a year, and can dissipate and reoccur regularly. Sometimes the effects combine with other disorders, such as being bipolar, and create "double depression". For some reason, depression is taken the least seriously out of all the disorders. Let me explain why it's not a made up condition. When I was diagnosed, a medical professional came and told me that there was a chemical imbalance in my brain that causes me to be more depressed. You can tell I was younger, because he was grossly oversimplifying it, but what he says is true. People with degrees don't lie to kids, especially when the parents are present. This means a couple things. I can't just stop being sad. It's a fundamental part of the chemistry in my brain. When you or anyone else say something like, "I don't understand, why can't you just get on with your life," or, "It's not going to get any better when you just skulk like that." to someone who's depressed, they think you're being an ignorant prick. I would like to know what people think about this, so feel free to answer the poll by picking which comment best fits your opinion.

I don't get it. 5
You convinced me. 0
I don't believe you. You're sad, not "diagnosed with Dysythmia." 7
I believe you and never doubted these kinds of people. 54
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  • Shelbs

    I completely agree with you. Mental disorders are the result of a chemical imbalance in the brain. Some of these imbalances can be seen through brain scans. It's ridiculous that some people are in denial about the truth of mental illnesses, when the scientific proof is right in front of them.

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    • Holzman_67

      My phone wont let me thumb you up so im going to have to type it
      *thumbs up*

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  • gummy_jr

    Holy cow! Yes! It pisses me off to no end when people tell a person with depression to "get over it"

    We'll excuse the fuck out of me for not being able to regulate the amounts of serotonin and dopamine that my brain releases! I've also heard that depression can be a genetic thing but I'm not too sure.

    People are so stupid sometimes, how about look into this sort of thing before you go spewing your ignorance and polluting the air.

    People need to learn something. >:(

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    • lolol555

      Yep, at least according to the diathesis stress model your genetic make-up causes a susceptibility to certain mental illness. They suggest your genes, in conjunction with stress, can cause disorders to develop or worsen their symptoms. I.e. one person (A) is more likely than another to develop depression for example, so even though A and B have the same amount of stress in their lives, A develops the illness.

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  • bananapie

    Same. I've been diagnosed with depression and am currently in therapy. A lot of people tell me to just "snap out of it" and start doing something with my life, like getting a job and hang out with people more often. It just doesn't work like that...

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  • Tommythecat.

    There are mental disorders for certain. But people are often over-diagnosed or wrongly diagnosed because let's face it, it's become a business, a disgraceful and evil business concerning drug companies and quack doctors.

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  • Couman

    People with degrees lie to kids (and adults) all the time. That said, I do believe in mental disorders. It's mental ORDER that I have my doubts about.

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  • thegypsysailor

    I think a whole lot of people, especially young people, going through normal life changes and experiences convince themselves that they have mental problems that they don't. Many more older people, are looking for an excuse for not taking responsibility for their own actions and lives, so they blame every problem they have on a mental disorder they don't have.
    And worst of all the medical community, especially in the US, are lazy pill pushers who don't take the time or effort to actually help their patients, just push pills the pharmaceutical companies pay them to push..
    Of course, their are legitimate illnesses, but I don't believe they are nearly as widespread and common as most believe.

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  • lolol555

    Thank you.
    I am sick of people who refuse to acknowledge them and all this anti-psychiatry movement bullshit. Mental illnesses are just like physical illnesses in the way that they exist and need treatment. Although people complain the drugs or therapy they get don't work, I'd say it's similar to the way old treatments for physical problems didn't work.

    We still don't fully understand the brain, much less every individual's. Of course some drugs are not going to work properly and of course for some they will respond badly to therapy. It's like back when the black death was spreading people used home remedies which would often not work because they had no idea about the disease. Similarly, we still can't fully comprehend the brain so our treatments cannot be effective for everyone. That's just how it will be until more understanding is gained.

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  • CozmoWank

    You are correct on both points, Mental illnesses are legitimate illnesses and the people who do not believe in them ARE ignorant pricks.
    Just as we can have illnesses & imbalances in any other organ of the body we can have illnesses & imbalances in the brain. You can't just will away other ailments or diseases & you can't just will away a mental illness. Like other illnesses & ailments there is the possibility of improvement with the help of medication, time & effort.
    I can relate to your problem as well because I too have been diagnosed with Dysthymia after being seen by an objective/independent psychologist who had no gain or benefit in diagnosing me with anything at all. Good luck to you, your condition can improve.

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  • KeddersPrincess

    I hate when people say they don't believe in disorders, too. In my opinion, nothing can be more ignorant. I think it should be a well known fact that if something is distressing person's life and they can't get control of it, there is something going on in their head that is not functioning correctly. But people will always be ignorant pricks, arrogant of their own beliefs. You have to ignore them.

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  • RomeoDeMontague

    Not everyone thinks that mental illness is fake. A lot of people believe that its caused by other medical issues, nutritional issues, and some are just diagnoses of normal behaviour which is considered undesirable by society but otherwise normal. Such as ADD/ADHD which just says children are hyper and unfocused. Most kids are hyper and unfocused.

    Just because its undesirable does not mean its always a disorder. We have to poo and pee. Just because it stinks does that really qualify it as a disorder?

    Getting a tumor or damage in your brain can cause all sort of issues such as hallucination, ability to speak personality change, Some nutritional issues have been caused these type of problems as well. Many retarded children have additional medical issues. Such as schizophrenia(psychological problems), eye problems, asthma, Urinary issues, hypoglycemic, unable to walk.

    A lot of people do not have a proper diet especially in today's society. So its not a stretch to believe some of these disorders are being caused by other underlining medical problems.

    Also your options shows you are not very intelligent since this is simply a rant. You are demanding we pay attention to your nonsense but will not let us give any feedback. Otherwise you would have put other options that are not saying A.Your all too stupid to understand or B.Yes I completely agree.

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    • KeddersPrincess

      It becomes a disorder when it causes distress in a persons life to the point where it's difficult for them to function. Like, you used ADHD/ADD. Yes, most kids have trouble concentrating and sitting still, but some have it to the point where it's nearly impossible for them to learn, and this disorder follows them well out of childhood.

      Are some people wrongfully diagnosed? Of course, but I would never say that something is not a disorder just because most people have an amount of it. I believe anything can be a severe problem if it distresses a person's life.

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      • RomeoDeMontague

        Alright so do all these issues need to be fixed with drugs? Which they usually are. Also what determines if it interfere with life?

        Most kids are unfocused and hyper that is why they need to be taught discipline. If they are taught discipline and held responsible maybe we don't need to drug them and in any case when is it ever good to jump to "Lets drug the child". We should try our hardest not to medicate children and we don't.

        Children are not done developing and its already been proven that child lose some of these traits as they grow up and its said they can out grow ADD/ADHD. Children have a nightmare phase but that is actually considered normal and something they grow out of.

        If that is normal why isnt hyperactivity considered to be one? I had awful nightmares as a child and my parents asked the doctor. They said "No there is nothing to worry about and children grow out of it." The doctor was correct since I only had nightmares till a certain age. Than they for the most entirely went away.

        If someone was hyper and you make them less hyper by putting them in martial arts or in some kind of sport was that ever a disorder? If a child becomes fat since the parents feeds them nothing but mcnuggets does that mean they had a disorder which made them fat or they simply had awful parents. At what point does child neglect qualify as the child's fault?

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        • KeddersPrincess

          I'm going to use myself for an example. When I was going through school, I had the hardest time paying attention. It wasn't because I wasn't disciplined enough (I got spankings for bad grades and I also got a very good Alicia Keys CD taken away from as well) it was because no matter how hard I tried to focus my mind always wondered on its own. It got to the point where, yes, it did distress me in class. I was taken to a doctor, they diagnosed me and in turn, at school, my test were made different than the other kids.

          I do not agree with putting kids on medication. In my opinion, medication is the devil. I was put on Adderall and another medication for my ADD, both caused depression and spontaneous mood swings. I do not agree with medication.

          There are plenty of people who do not grow out of ADD. I am aware that I am only 21 but, so far, I am one of them.

          Just because it's common doesn't rule out it being a disorder. You used nightmares for example. In your case, it was normal. You grew out of it and, for most kids, that's the case. A kid with a disorder would suffer insomnia because of these nightmares and may not grow out of it.

          "If someone was hyper and you make them less hyper by putting them in martial arts or in some kind of sport was that ever a disorder?" If that's the case then, no I do not believe it was a disorder because the disorder itself does not work that way. I was in martial arts and I was put in soccer. I had trouble paying attention in both activities and never even learned the game of soccer. I, unlike the other kids, was on the field daydreaming and picking flowers.

          No. Child neglect never becomes the child's fault and that is off subject. ADD is not the child's fault but is simply something going on in the brain that gives the kid a harder time to focus than other kids. There's nothing the parents can do about it except figure out a learning strategy that works for the kid. I encourage you to learn more about ADD and other disorders and why some traits are classified as disorders while others are not.

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        • RomeoDeMontague

          Some people are predisposed for certain sports or careers. Is there really an issue with these children or do they just have the possibility of being great? If someone is hyper and you put them in sports they are going to be able to last longer.

          However the drug pushers would say "No its bad get rid of it". What about the coaches? I am sure they need that type of energy on the field and clearly not everyone can keep up.

          Should we really be blaming people for being odd? or should we not build upon what they were given? Running against a current is very difficult and no matter what the current is always going to be there. Its easier working with than against it wouldn't you think?

          Maybe they are simply talented but since they do not fit the perfect mold we reject them. No one fits that mold and none of us every will. We are all unique and we all have areas which we are going to be better in. Every Zebra might look the same but they all have individual patterns. They are not merely clones of each other.

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    • IncludedSos

      I agree with you, this IS a rant. I just felt angry after everybody I tried to explain this to rejected my answers. However, about the options, I thought I was being fair with "A. I completely agree" or "B. I completely disagree", but apparently this shows I'm stupid.

      Please, tell me what options YOU would have placed.

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  • davesumba

    There's no such thing as a mental disorder, people are how they are and become that way because of how they are raised and treated along the way. But how would doctors make money if they didn't make up things to diagnose you with so that they can prescribe toxic drugs to put into your body that do more harm than good? We can't have that now.

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    • IncludedSos

      The drugs I have been given were always optional. I could've thrown the prescription right back at them if I wanted, but I just kinda let them sit in the cabinet forever.

      To further illustrate my point, imagine that a child tripped and broke his arm on a sharp object. Then someone tells him that his arm still works, it is simply an aspect of his personality that does not allow him to move it correctly, and that there is no such thing as a broken arm. What happens to the child?

      It bleeds out.

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      • davesumba

        In what world does that analogy make sense.

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  • dauphinoise

    I wish I had a Greek doctor to tell me stuff. :)

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  • AngelofMercy

    If they don't have a mental disorder. Then they are probably possessed by a demon or the devil. That's why a lot of people in the the 1940s and 1950 were locked away in instutions. And were given Lobotomy's and electric shock therapy. They needed an exorcism not Mental Help. And Im not even religious. But I do believe in Possession. There are many stories, that illustrate my point.

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    • 69

      you make me believe in mental disorders like no one else does <3

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    • gummy_jr

      First you were DiamondGirl, then DragonQueen and now AngelofMercy. You also have another account "Agirlsbestfriend" to agree with everything you say.

      Wow you're so cool, I'm sure everyone wants to be like you... (That was sarcasm)

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    • Agirlsbestfriend.

      its true

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      • AngelofMercy

        Yes, it is. Now let's go Dubstepping. At the club.

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        • Agirlsbestfriend.

          Woop woop ok!!! I have new shiny debstupping shoes. I have to be careful not to dupstep in dubdog poo!!

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          • AngelofMercy

            Yeah I dubstepped in cat food the other day. It was gross! Now off we go! one two three!

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