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Some women claim to be so strong and independent and they don't need men. Until some heavy lifting needs to be done...Then all of a sudden they make puppy dog eyes asking men to help them. It makes me giggle sarcastically when a woman brags about being strong. It's like watching a small child pretending he's Superman.
This is a reference to being strong mentally, not just physically. Did you really not know that?
When you say a woman is strong, you mean she has a strong mind, not big muscles. And having a strong mind can help you figure out the problem of heavy lifting. Even a single man can't do all heavy lifting by himself. It requires strength of character to convince people to help you lift that dead elephant off the train tracks.
It also means she isn't weak willed. She is strong enough to stand for her own convictions and beliefs and doesnt give in to bullying tactics. She can form her own opinions.
And I'm not so sure you can since you can't even interpret the saying with any depth. Just repeating some man bullshit.
Ahh, nothing like broad paintbrushing in the morning. Some woman are strong and independent. There are even a few women that are stronger than you. Not all men are strong, macho guys that need no one and not all women are frail, emotional wrecks that need a man in their life. Women can be quite capable of taking care of themselves and they can do anything a man could do with the same effort and skill. And this is coming from a non-feminist female.
How much you bench bro. DO YOU EVEN LIFT?!
I'm strong I bet you I have a stronger back than you and I can do more pull ups
Some women are butch with abnormal levels of testosterone in them. Such women can be found to be disproportionate among feminists. Such women can be found to have unusual aggression, either mental or physical. Such women are an insult to womanhood and femininity.
I suppose you have never heard of a metaphor? "strong and independent" probably isn't often meant in the literal sense of lifting strength, but rather strength of character.
However, my wife is pretty damn physically strong, often sharing a lot of the harder work on the boat. I'd like to see you match her for strength and stamina, on a pitching deck, in 12 foot seas and 40 knot winds. We've seen plenty of "strong" men cower in terror, while she leaps into the fray, unphased.
Oh DARN! I forgot to leave a very long-worded response to the [also] ignorant OP. Be it a 'troll' post or not, it warrants an unbias response:
Strength and independence:
This is not (and never will be) a gender specific issue. Both men and women are strong and even when they feel they are not capable, they truly are; physically and emotionally. Women can lift cars off of their babies and so can men. Adrenaline and the power of using muscles with this spike and pure "will" and torque in one direction (we have 600 muscles. If they all pulled together in one direction, you could lift over 25 tons) makes this possible.
Humans are strong -- but will never.. ever.. be truly and fully "independent". Financially, yes. However, we are all INTERDEPENDENT. We are all born attached to someone; our mothers and fathers. Someone. We always will, too. Humans crave each other, touch, emotion deriving experiences and happiness that we can share with others. One of the biggest parts resulting in true happiness, is knowing your loved ones' are happy and living a fullfiling life. As are you, hopefully.
Interdependence is evident, even here. When one claims this site is "addicting", what they are saying is the result of interdependence. Regardless of even hating/disliking/criticizing/trolling each other, humans fight for recognition and acknowledgment and being "connected". That is truly what this site depicts and displays very blatantly, every day. It is not a blog of one person.. it's Q and A's of numerous strangers. So much dependence on one another.. users cannot refrain from reading and at times engaging in insightful discussions.
Even with lives outside of this site and people in it, you still log in to a website and are dependent on others, to satisfy your innate desire as a human to CONNECT.
Even you OP, if you thought this and let it go to the underbelly of your thoughts, it would not be good enough. You need others, even if it's reaction is potentially negative and opposing.
No.one.is.alone.nor.wants.to.be.
It's feminism. The logic tends to fail in realising that most women aren't extremely strong. What are odds of coming across female bodybuilders?!
I'm coming at you, because you're a woman. Not just a woman, but a woman who poses as a male online.
This logic you are referring to is not logic. It's a statement you are making, ignorantly. Just like every comment above, people are usually referencing mental AND physical strengths. Which both genders have. However if you want to be specific; you must not live somewhere full of diversity nor get out a lot in the city -- or outside of a rural area. Physically strong women? I see them everyday. Not just at the gym (personal trainer) So if you're a couch potato/online more than outside..watch The Crossfit Games, UFC live and Steve Austin's Skull Buster. The women on said shows(especially the CF games) could easily take on the average male or larger...and again, the average male is not the huge bodybuilder you think of. The average size of men AND women are not what they were, even 20 years ago. The "average male" is actually becoming a smaller and smaller frame. Which can be attested to with vastly different "means" than our cave-ancestors: Be it work or downtime activity, times are changing and modernization changes the average structure in physique of both genders.
Women are getting over societal norms/standards and are less afraid to look "bulky" and appear muscular. Less oppressive logic also plays into this; men who hoped for maids and servants are now the minority and quickly dying out -- equality/modern logic is progressing, "pull your own weight", split the bill, anyone can have muscles! (How daring) -- ideology of the millennials is the future and setting new standards. Traditional views and men with anger-dick about it, deal with it. One ignorant person cannot change a thing. Just their views. And they will.
It doesn't matter where I go, I see more muscular women than men these days. Every gymnast, fighter, bodybuilder, casual weight lifter, CF-er and more, are not absent in the world, just yours.
Seriously, how did you know?
And I'm not joking... (..)
*Before her, plenty of men. But I'm too opinionated and judgmental to date my fellow age group, from gen-Y, at the moment. Once caught up with the millennials progressive nature, back on! Equality for all and all of that Emma Watson attitude. No F's given, none taken. Maybe yours though, you can't get over me.
Spoken like a true boy, in desperate need of my acknowledgement. As usual.
However, I'm more of a modern feminist. I love men.
I'm still refraining from commiting to anyone.
That ^ was pure durp-style sarcasm.
I prefer sexual relationships only. When needed on my tight end...no emotional nonsense. Thus far.
Nothing of what you have stated about me is true and even if it were, the vile negativity in your words would still be uncalled for. Surely, you must have nothing better to do if you feel the need to lash out and tear down someone else.
Oh shhhh. Don't pull the "vile negative", "you're bein' mean" card... I see it far too often on this site and bully/aggressor is thrown up and around over some of the silliest opinions and debates, here.
Yes. If in regards to you, you made your lifestyle choices (or internet personality) public. No one is judging this and by no one -- I mean me. Or anyone else who saw your post from awhile back. You apologized for "lying" to the community and made your position here very clear. No chastising on my behalf gave way, nor did I respond then.
Only here, on this post, have I touched on that fact. Since as a woman, wanting to sound slightly ignorant to the mockery of other women, seems to embrace what your male view would be. Which is fine, everyone has their views. Mockery is insulting to any gender; The rest of my comment touched on "strengths"... Not you.
If you consider one fact about someone and wondering where all women have the same frame (country/state-wise) Then sure...claim vile negativity. You cannot read intent, if you read something in an angry tone (all in your head) It's your negativity. Not mine.
It's common here, it appears certain users to love to turn water into salt water and act like opinions should all intertwine and be agreeable to the majority... Otherwise, you're a bully/troll/Notnormal. Irony.
Sweet-salty-bittersweaty-irony.
I'm not transgendered. It is never my intention to be a bully. Doing so would go against my beliefs, which I take very seriously. I don't agree with feminism, but that doesn't mean that I am against women. It is a fact that psychically men, on average, tend to be stronger than females. It is how nature designed their bodies. Doesn't mean that women can't be strong too.
Women need men just as men need women. I need my boyfriend to lift/carry things I can't manage, and he needs me to cook things that he can't. I think the fact that both genders need eachother is perfectly balanced out, and feminism irritates me.
Although, don't be a man and tell me that you're completely independent and I am not. Men need women just as much as women need men. Who else is gonna manage your household, cook for you and birth and raise your children?
LOL I'm pretty strong mentally. But I will NEVER claim to be physically strong. I am usually the first one to ask for help when I know I couldn't lift something.
its been my experience that strong and independent woman don't say they are strong and independent woman, they just are. and almost all woman folks who say they are strong and independent wish they were strong and independent.
This reminds me of this video at 4:40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ZtjGJ4LD4
But on a serious note, strength and independence isn't simply measured by physical strength it just means the mental and emotional strength in most cases today to go through life independent. Claiming someone isn't strong and independent because they aren't as capable of doing something is right and wrong. People aren't as independent as they like to think, you nor women are truly independent or even strong enough to be independent in life, nor am I. We like to say we're independent all while others are working to ensure our living standards maintain such as electricity, the fuels we need to maintain our life styles, the people that built our homes and roads, and so on.
Nobody is truly independent, we all live our lives based on the work others have done and continue to do. We can be as independent and strong as we "can" be in civilization but that's a far stretch from truly being independent, and we do need help from others in civilization to do tasks within that civilization, such as how, by this reasoning, a wannabe mother or wannabe father can't be "independent" in civilization because they need someone else to become a parent.