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It seems odd to me that you can be charged with rape for having sex with a drunk girl even if you yourself were drunk. If both parties were shit faced drunk why is the man charged with rape?
I think it's fair to say that some people have more capacity when drunk than others where it can apply that two shitfaced people can have one person still capable of taking advantage of the other. That said, the idea that regardless of such an aspect the idea that a man is automatically guilty of rape and the woman is a victim under such circumstances is a clear indication of the sexism towards men in our culture as guilty animals.
Was going to say what ITDUZ said but yeah. It does not mean the man is 100% at fault if both parties go into it drunk. However if say you get a person drunk so they say okay and than get drunk you are clearly malicious either way. Also as someone who could be classed as a somewhat fuctional alchoholic I can say a persons fuctioning as a drunk differs on frequency of drinking, genetics and body wieght as well as how long you been drinking. Some people have a better tolerance and are overall more coherent. I am semicoherant whrn drunk. I just have less filters. I know others who are not even aware of whats happening around them.
only 52 men have been proven to be falsely convicted of rape since 1989. 406907 women were raped (only counting those that have come forward) in 2019, ONE YEAR. more women have been raped in one year than men have been falsely convicted of rape in 32 years. there is no female privilege, there never has been and never will be.
I like how you vaguely go from "proven" for men but "coming forward" for women. Your number is wrong and I don't know where you got it from. The vast majority of rape cases don't end in conviction which means you can't determine every allegation of rape from women towards men as legitimate unless you offer special favour in their direction to blindly believe them at the expense of men, meaning you give women privilege.
The reason why it is a big deal is because in one case the system works to punish the perpetrator but in the other the system is being used to punish the victim.
If I wanted to be insanely petty I could just go down the route of characterizing all of the unproven cases of rape that went to court, the majority, and use them as examples of false rape allegations.
So yes, there absolutely is female privilege and this is just one of the examples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hCUh6ZIchU
^^^This is a good little example.
you can’t just take the actual evidence and statistics i have done real research to find and say “that’s fake” and think it helps your point. it’s real, and until you stop living in a fantasy world where everything that goes against your views is fake nothing will get better.
yes, false rape accusations are real, they are a problem, we need to talk about them, i agree with the OP, i agree that false rape accusations should be persecuted and i agree that they ruin peoples lives.
“blindly believe them at the expense of men”, this statement could not be more wrong. you should stay neutral until evidence is brought forward. if you’ve been going around telling victims that they’re liars then say it.
i never said that false rape allegations don’t happen, my point is that MEN have privilege in society, and women don’t.
i think it’s funny that when women are talking about how men treat women we say “they rape, assault, kill, take away our human rights” and when men talk about how women treat men they say “there have been a few false accusations”. did you know that when a women tells the court that her ex husband abused her children, he’s more likely to get custody of them?
in your video, he says that 40% of rape accusations are false. but you have to wonder, how did he get that statistic? what research was done? as you said, there’s no actual way to tell what amount of rape accusations are false and what amount are real, so why is that number suddenly true because it’s higher? just because it’s convenient for you? isn’t this hypocritical since you downplayed the statistics i used?
the answer is that you want to feel like a victim.
You have cited no evidence to suggest your figures are accurate, you merely asserted them to be and when given the opportunity to cite your evidence you have yet to do so.
The rest of what you say on this topic is just lip-service. I dont care.
You claim women dont have privilege in society and yet they have the majority of gender based programs for the health and safety even though most of the tax payer money funding such programs are paid for primarily for men. Or the fact that women have THE RIGHT to vote but men must trade their human rights for the ability to vote (selective service), or that men can have their genitals mutilated at birth (circumcision) but for women it's illegal. The list goes on.
Do you know that women generally win custody disputes? Pu-lease tell me you are not trying to claim men are privileged when it comes to child custody, do not make that argument for the love of God.
He says 40% but he doesnt use that figure and if you want to find out how they got to that figure then you can check because he sources that information for you to research yourself.
The difference is, my dude, is that the statistic used in that video was determined based on research WOMENS groups have done, ergo meaning that even if you take a biased groups research that you'll come to the conclusion that it isnt a small minority.
You ducked and dodged points here which makes me believe you just dont have the ability to argue these points, therefore this may be my last response on topic. I know this wont go anywhere because you thi k simply reporting rape is enough to determine a man as guilty and will use the statistics of "reported" rapes as actual rapes. You're under equipped for this one.
Female privilege is def a big thing.
Great to know only 52 men have had their life destroyed(and that of thrir lids wife etc) had the worst time possible in prison, being treated the worst by other prisoners. On 52 on 32 years thats great. What about the ones who can't prove innocence. Guilty until proven innocent isnt supposed to be the way it is. I really feel for rape victims , and rapists deserve to be raped snd besten daily or killed in prison . Killed only after a long period of daily multiple rapes and beatings. They are scum .
If you really feel that strongly about rapists and the punishment they deserve, then you should know that female privilege doesn’t exist, otherwise they would be getting that punishment.
since i have so much privilege i must have free period products right? no? oh, well then i must have free access to birth control? no? not that either? well, since you said i have privilege when it comes to sexual assault, surely the majority of victims get justice, right? no?
- You're not entitled to free shit.
- The majority of proven victims do get justice, the ones that arent proven cant be determined as an injustice to begin with.
Your whole mindset here is that because women dont get everything they want when and how they want it at the expense of others then they must be underprivileged, and that mindset is a perfect example of how privileged you are to even suggest you can argue that these things should just be afforded to you.
I think theres all kinds of privileges. Woman are privileged in some ways and less in others. When theres a hostage situation or a boat sinking the women and kids are the first ones they let out.
I know the courts would say "you knew she was drunk and still had sex with her" imagine being drunk yourself having sex with another drunk person and then getting charged with rape
It's not right but people lie. It's a risk you're taking if you engage in that behavior.
It's crazy isn't it. This is where we've gotten to in society. Just avoid feminists and you'll be fine though.
161.6 million men live in america, only 52 of those have been wrongfully convicted of rape since 1998. 166.7 million women live in america, 41341600 of those have been sexually assaulted since 2015. stop imaging scenarios and wake up.
We don’t know how many people are wrongfully convicted of crimes or even how many crimes are committed in the first place. Because it’s impossible to know.
Statistics on such things are beyond garbage, everyone (apparently almost everyone) knows this.
52 men had their convictions OVERTURNED since 1998? Thats actually quite a large number since it is very hard to overturn a conviction like that. You get to sue the government and everything. An ofte. scenerio is prosecutors tell you "plead guilty or you may get 50 years for this" and they take a plea deal for something like 5 to 10 years.
what were you trying to prove with this? my point was that false rape accusations are an issue but will never be a bigger issue than real rape accusations.
You're trying to grand stand and turn it on us as if we just dont care about rape. It would be hard to come by people who dont think rape is real and is a problem. But you shouldnt just automatically believe accusations immediately either. Funny enough Ive been accused by several people on this site in the past of being a rapist
it’s baffling to me that men are so much more concerned with the tiny amount of false accusations than the overwhelming amount of real ones
you must be that crazy cunt whos addicted to cable news
sufferin fuck woman your brains completely rotten
"only 52 men have been proven to be falsely convicted of rape since 1989. 406907 women were raped (only counting those that have come forward"; it's baffling to anyone with a brain that you don't see the contradiction with your own logic.
Firstly having a rape conviction overturned isn't the only way to prove non-guility. You know... Actually getting proven non-guilty or having it not go to trial is also generally a way to do it and means you were possibly falsely accused.
Also the fact that you take such low regard for the innocence of men, i.e. you say that they have to have their convictions overturned and then just for a woman coming foward you assume they were 100% accurate and truthful with their story shows just how biased you are on this subject.
get a load of this guy, he probably raped someone and is trying to cover it up
You're proving his point on how men are often being falsely accused of rape as you pretend it is so rare and it isn't worth discussing. Nobody should be allowed to falsely accuse an innocent person of a horrific act even if it is rare. Why would you dismiss false accusations that have been known to ruin a man's life?
And how many guys would even admit it when it did happen to them. Its not something you advertise.