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Here in my country if a woman drinks with men or wears revealing clothes and gets raped she is the one to be condemned by most and they say it is her fault. What is a good argument against that?
I don't think there is a good argument against pure stupidity. Rape is always the attacker's fault, simple as that. Drinking and wearing certain clothes doesn't mean it's the woman's fault.
I might suggest watching The Accused from 1988, directed by Jonathan Kaplan.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094608/
A rape is a rape, no matter what the circumstances involved. If a woman is not willing to perform intercourse and has been forced to do so, then its a rape. Those who witness such a crime, either by doing nothing to stop it or by soliciting it are also found guilty by the law, depending on the circumstances.
Rape is an incredibly traumatic experience that nobody deserves to go through! It doesn't matter if a woman is drunk or wearing revealing clothing. Rape is always the rapist's fault!
That may be what you think. But if I lived in whatever country you do, if I had a wife or gf or daughter that was raped I would damn sure be out looking to beat some asshole senseless. Your countries way of thinking is so ass fuckin backwards its pathetic. The person commiting the crime, the attacker is responsible. If I shoot somebody then it should be victims fault. They shouldn't have been standing in front of my gun. At least by the logic your country thinks. Remind me never to come on vacation to your country.
I don't think that.. I am against it. I just want really good rebuttles to the people who say the woman deserves it.
Don't tell them show them. Grab a broom and shove it up their ass. Tell them it was their fault for turning you on with their rape talk.
That should learn em.
Common decency would say the violent aggressive person would be held accountable. If the woman is minding her own business, having a few drinks and someone drops a rohipnol (ruphie(sp), then who's at fault, her? Hell no. Again the aggressive perp. If her bf or husband died and she having a few drinks to unwind the tension if she is bothering no one, she wants left alone, then again its not her fault if jackass decides his gf/wife isn't enough and he decides to rape someone, again HR IS THE AGGRESSIVE ONE. IF A WOMAN SAYS NO then she means FUCK NO.
I'm so tired of this bullshit look if you're dressed like a whore expect to be treated like one. This is how the world works don't cry to me.
I do have to say something. I am against rape completely. No one who has pulled themselves off of a crying victim has had any confusion about what they wanted. But, that being said, no doesn't always mean no.
Give over. Rape is unsolicited sex. If a woman says no and the bloke still puts his dick inside her even though she said no, how is it her fault?
If you believe it's the woman's fault because she goes out for a few beers in revealing clothing then you're part of the systemic problem which all women suffer from.
Go fuck yourself. Sideways. With a rusty machete.
We are all responsible for controlling our own impulses. Is the merchandise at stores begging to be stolen because its displayed? No. There's a right and wrong way to go about getting what one wants. The man (or any person) that goes out and abuses someone just because they want to is wrong EVERY time.
A good argument? I don't see the point. If you live in a third world country, that's the attitudes you will get. Actually, it doesn't even have to be a third world country. Any Muslim country will do. I know guys from Bosnia and they treat women like second class citizens too. And yes, Bosnia is a Muslim country. So much for the religion of love and peace.
Maybe the culture is ignorant, archaic and just plain misogynistic? Not all cultures are equal.
I personally think that rapists and molesters are sub-human garbage. I love all animals, especially dogs and cats, but what do people do with vicious dogs who have attacked? They humanely put them to sleep. Rapists and molesters are sub-human, because they always claim that their victims wanted it or somehow seduced them, because they were tempted. What a nice, enormous crock of fermented shit that is. I don't believe that there is ever such a thing as "tempted", because people who cannot control their more base urges are no better than animals, they might look human, but I don't think they're human inside, because they have no self control. I don't care if the victim is a virgin or a whore no means no, and when the victim is intoxicated and unable to say no, or if she just doesn't say yes that means no too.
It's not that difficult, it's just that predators and misogynists are selfish, prideful and pathological in their inability to admit to wrongdoing. There are people in this world who are literally just walking lies, the epitome of evil, and that's what those who blame the victims of rape, assault and molestation are! Yes, I blame certain cultures, and no, I don't care about political correctness.
Agree... if you are advertising your axe wound by dressing provocatively, don't be surprised when someone dumps their cum and other garbage in it