People should be required to have a parenting licence to have kids.

You need a license to drive a car. You even needed a license to own a dog in this country once. Why aren't we licensed for parenthood?

I couldn't endorse your other measures but I think parenting should be taught at night school. Especially with the deterioration of the wider family unit. Grandparents used to be backup parents and experienced hands.

The op is brilliant. Yes I think that parenting should have a licences.

Agreed, a good idea indeed.

I couldn't agree more. The things you are mentioning are a little harsh and probably seen to the majority as immoral but overpopulation is a serious problem.

And bad parenting, of course people raise their children differently and there is no real right way of doing it but if you're raising a mischievous brat you're definitely doing something wrong

ahaha just the other day I said that people should have to pass a "normal" test to have kids. Just think all the crazy kids out there (like kids that shoot up schools) and if you look at their parents, they're freaks. And then there's people having a bunch of kids and can't take care of them properly. If there was like u said a license, or test there would be less crazy people, a lower population, and a more educated society.

I feel iffy about the mandatory sterilisation. But yeah, some people seriously shouldn't have kids. I agree that it shouldn't be as easy as it is and I agree about the "test" thing too. Can't imagine it would happen, though.

utopian societies are just as fucked up.

I think it would do well. Also, any child not in a stable family unit, as in single parents, will be taken away for adoption. I think this will help children and men, as women will not be so easily able to just have sex, get pregnant as planned, not caring at all about the man, only wanted to get pregnant despite not having a proper family unit, getting child support from the man as planned, and raising a child in a bad family unit.
This will make women have to find a man that is willing to commit to parenthood instead of simply not caring due to knowing they can get free money from the government or the man.

I do believe something like this should happen, as the family unit is getting destroyed day by day.

That sounds harsh.

Going by your logic no one deserves a second chance?

So you wont let people learn from there mistakes?

We need to make mistakes to learn from them nobody is perfect and what makes you better than anyone else?

History proves that authoritarian countries obsessed with control and trying too hard to make everyone's lives better and more fair have lead to nothing but pain and despair.

OP's post has so much support for the very same reasons that Hitler and Lenin did. Stupid masses don't think about the long term consequences of attempting to create utopian societies, based on control rather than freedom.

So no OP, I don't agree. I think that someone should shoot people with ideas like yours in the head, just in case.
Go read a book.

It sounds like someone wants to become Hitler. Control? Nice. -.-
Go join the communist party, but personally I think you are full of yourself. Maybe you need some help. You should stop being angry all the time, nice and friendly people are much more approachable and usually have friends.
Your idea is absurd, this isn't China and this isn't Nazi Germany either.

have u lost the plot!?!!
everybody has completely different beliefs of what being a parent is all about, thus it would be impossible to standardise.

what i generally find is that its all about 'family values' - your class, religion and what country your from plays a part:

eg

country 'family values'

italy very high
indian high
poland medium - high
nigeria medium
samalia medium - low
russia low
jamaica very low

Good idea: teaching parenting skills to prospective parents.
Bad idea: sterilising any who fail at their attempts to parent.

I think making parenting and preparation classes for new or prospective parents mandatory is a great idea. If somebody does not achieve the standard expected, they would have to have visits from social services for the first 6 months or more, to assess if they are capable. If not, then standard procedure would be followed and the child would be taken away until either the parents achieve the required standard or a new capable family are found.

However, sterilising any parents who fail at parenting is a ridiculous idea. Some people aren't in a good situation financially or psychologically when they have their first child, and aren't able to provide the right care. If they then grow up, learn from their mistakes and reach a position where they can provide perfect care for another child, you're saying they shouldn't be physically able to - they should have their ability to reproduce snatched away.

If you're talking about temporary sterilisation, perhaps that's more justifiable, although it's still ethically questionable and an imperfect science. Permanent sterilisation is very rarely justifiable.

I find your view to be very black and white. Not much room for grey. While your argument holds many valid points, it also is lacking in a complete thought process on how this would actually be implemented into society as well as it's effects on the world. But hey, keep thinking. I wholeheartedly agree that population control and resource management are matters requiring attention, but I also don't think I'd like the government in control of everything including my reproductive organs. Can anyone say "eugenics"?

Are you off of your fucking rocker? I agree that parenting classes are a nice thing to have... but nothing like that should be required by law! We have enough gubberment intervention in our lives as it is!! NO MORE!!!