Not exactly shocked by cosby scandal

Upon hearing the ever-growing list of women claiming Bill Cosby molested them, a lot of people are acting totally surprised.
I have no trouble believing most of these are true (there's always a few to jump on the band wagon). Its well known that in Hollywood men in positions often have their way with starlets to "promote" their career in return. Im just surprised it took the women so long to come forward. Thoughts?

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  • VirgilManly

    He grabbed my ass.

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    • wistfulmaiden

      well, can you blame him?

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  • RoseIsabella

    I saw Cosby on TV wearing a sweatshirt that said "hello friend" and I thought, "damn, that's creepy!"

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  • thegypsysailor

    Well, now that a bit of real info has surfaced, I must say it looks like Cosby may not be guilty as accused.
    Judy Huth claims that Cosby molested her when she was 15 years old.
    "In her legal action, Ms Huth claimed the actor gave her alcohol and forced her to perform a sex act on him in a bedroom of the Playboy Mansion around 1974." What the fuck was a 15 year old girl doing at the Playboy Mansion at 15 years old? Pretending to be a grown up?
    Something is just NOT right here.

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  • sillygirl77

    I believe he's guilty... and I agree what you're saying is probably correct OP

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  • My thoughts? Innocent until proven guilty. I know it's not "politically correct" to not just accept claims of rape without proof.

    I remember hearing one of the saying, and this isn't word for word but pretty much what was said "I was drunk and he tried to have his way with me so I told him that I have a STD and if he has sex with me he will infect his wife", the the person claimed she was forced to give him a BJ because she was "stoned". Can make good escapes when drunk but not when stoned. Uhhh huuuh.

    Either way, I expect evidence. We have innocence until proven guilty for a reason and I am not about to change my view on someone being innocent until proof is out there.

    The sad thing is that nowadays being a victim is one of the new ways of getting your few minutes of fame, so some people try to make themselves seem like victims just to get their few minutes, and when it comes to rape, in most cases, you're bound to get your fame regardless of if proof has not been provided.

    I'll be downvoted in to oblivion for this, though. Cus we all know allegations = truth, amirite?

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    • flailyhailey

      So like, I'm not sure of the exact number right now, but I think it's around 15 who have spoken out about this. You ACTUALLY believe that 15 strangers were like "you know, fuck this guy, let's ruin his life for NO reason". That's such bullshit. Grow up.

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      • Pseodonihm

        I agree with ItDuz. We have this silly thing in this country called due process. If people where judged on what other fifteen strangers said. their would be a lot more witch burnings.

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      • Yes, I think it is a possibility. If you think that we should just claim someone is guilty because a few people claimed something, then I wouldn't want to live in your type of world.

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    • Its nice youre able to think like that. I could never be on a jury because if the person looks "creepy" I would assume they were guilty. Just human nature I guess. I cant get past appearances a lot of times.

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    • SecretIdentity

      Innocent until proven guilty is for the courts. You're allowed to have your own opinion on guilt or innocence. For instance, if you catch a burglar in your home you KNOW he's guilty. You don't extend the benefit of holding him innocent until the matter has gone to court. Do you?

      As for Bill, it sure looks like he's guilty of a long pattern of abuse. One victim, Beth Ferrier, took and passed a lie detector test. Cosby struck a deal to keep the story from coming out. In another case, he was being sued by another victim and he settled with her. Why would he settle if he was innocent?

      The accusations have been around for a long time. This is not really a new story except that there's more possible victims speaking up. The way it all adds up, it seems FAR more likely than not that he is guilty of at least some abuse. Some of what he's accused of I personally just see as being pervy, some of it also sounds like maybe some women he was involved with accepted money to put up with him, some I think had ongoing encounters with him. It's gross but probably not criminal however it speaks to his character for sure. It certainly makes the more serious allegations more believable.

      TL;DR: All things considered, he's probably guilty and it's ok to think so. It's pretty foolish to think he's totally innocent.

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      • Innocent until proven should be the way we all think. Do people have a right "not" to think that? Yes, however that doesn't mean just because you can have the standard that proof isn't required doesn't mean it's the best standard to have, or even a good one.

        Ofcourse if you have witnissed it that you can believe it is true. However someone going through a situation and knowing it's true is not the same as someone who hasn't had any proof, public or personal (Personal observations) and blindly accepting it. People have been killed and even committed suicide just for that very reason that people blindly believed someone had done something wrong, such as raping someone.

        As for the lie detector you mentioned. Could you link me to where it says one was taken alongside the questions asked? Need to see it before I can base my opinion on it. The iffy thing about lie detectors is that they can come out false both ways, someone telling the truth can have the test come out saying they were lying and people lying can come out on the test saying that they were telling truth, which is why they are not taken as legit methods of proof by many.

        As for striking a deal, again, being merely "accused" of rape can have a lot of negative outcomes. People can and do try to pay off someone they know is wrong to ensure that heir public image is not damaged or further damaged. When it comes to rape, even if it is proven he was falsely accused on all cases, that stigma is still going to be there, and as a public figure that isn't a good thing, it can actually be a damaging thing even when cleared.
        So him trying to pay people to not continue with it can be for the reason above or it could be because of what you are implying. Then again, I am not familiar with the deals, I merely heard a little bit about them. However, from what you stated, would I be correct in saying that the people accepted those deals? Which, again, could imply that these people are after money. I remember a while ago one was asking for $100,000 but then raised it to $250,000. So this could be extortion, all about money, and given what he is accused of it can be assumed that the pressure would result exactly in what I beliee from what you stated happened, they paid him off.
        For these people that were apparently victims of the crime, they sure do settle for money rather than justice, though...

        I don't agree that it is far more likely for him to have abused someone. Just because a numer of allegations have come out does not mean that atleast one of them don't need proof.

        I don't know much about Bill Cosby. Never watched the things he was in or paid much of any attention to him, however that still doesn't change my standard of innocent until proen guilty.

        I don't think it's ok to think he's guilty. These things have concequences and the fact that there is no proof which implies he could very well be innocent, yet is faced with the stigma that has encouraged violence towards people that hold such stigmas, alongside behavviors that have resulted in people committing suicide, I think it's extremely wrong.
        I'm not about to take part in believing someone is guilty just because they have been accused because I don't want to take part in behaviors or opinions backed by speculation that could and has made innocent people suffer from vigilante behavior and made them commit suicide.

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        • SecretIdentity

          Here's a story about the article Cosby had covered up

          http://m.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/bill-cosby-testimony-describes-accuser-spiked-story-article-1.2026056

          Here's a story about the prosecutor who declined to charge Cosby. He believes the victim, thought Cosby was lying but had insufficient evidence to criminally charge him. That's why she sued him. Not because she's taking money over justice. A civil lawsuit was her only option for justice after criminal charges couldn't go forward.

          http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/19/showbiz/bill-cosby-rape-allegation-prosecutor/

          The woman you're talking about who is suing him is actually getting sued back by Cosby because of discrepancies or lies related to her previous lawsuit 10 years ago. I

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  • borntobeme

    This kind of thing is and always will be common with men of power. In most cases, these females JUMP at the chance to 'be' with popular guys. Nothing new at all. Years later, when they can see a possible pay day, they magically emerge. I have witnessed and had several beautiful women get to be 'companions' at thier request. Now that they are older, broke, and fat, some of them will probably jump on that wagon, looking for a pay day. To me Bill Cosby is a non racist hero.

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    • I agree that its stupid of a young woman to go to an older, famous man's house and not expect anything to happen. However the claims of being drugged are what get me, you cant say "no" if youre unconscious...

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      • borntobeme

        Why would they wait so long to report it? Drugged indeed! Just jump on the money train! Unfounded claims. Total bull****! If no evidence, then it didn't happen. He should sue them all!

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  • GiveMeAFuckingNameAlready!

    I believe he did in fact have sex with those women. I don't however think they were molested. I believe those women knew exactly what they were doing.

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    • I think some of them did it for personal gain but if he drugged some of them that's messed up.

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  • WhiteStallion

    I was also not surprised because it seems that most of the people who seem trustable sooner or later have their names dragged in the mud or attempts are made to do such things.

    I have always never trusted what the main media house corporations feed us because most of it is just rhetoric. Cosby's innocence or guilt is something I'm not concerned with specifically. Rape cases have been opened against many people we supposedly have faith in. It could be a ploy for attention and money or it could be true. Finding this out is the difficult part. However I still appreciate Cosby for the principles he had and made known to the world.

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  • Avant-Garde

    I wasn't too surprised either. I had my first major surprise on this case, when I was a child. That's when the original allegations exploded on the news. I remember watching the victims on TV telling their stories. It was inconceivable.

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