Nice guys finish last

Don't confuse niceness with the inability to be forward. There's no convention on interaction with the opposite sex. You can say what you mean and what you want, and it's perfectly fine. Often times people who say they are a "nice" guy are really a shy, quiet, and/or reserved guy. Extroversion is a superior solution than not being nice, and is more important to the initial stages of the enterprise that you seem to have trouble with. Niceness will ultimately help you keep her in the long term, after the extroversion aids in the courting phase. Don't worry about what to say, just get in front of any girl you can and say something, anything (that's not totally off the wall) and you'll be fine.

Here's the thing bud, person who is nice =/= loser. Person who is nice = a nice person. If you want to make yourself more attractive, then do so. Hit the gym, make an effort to talk to people and improve your social skills, get a job/go to school if you're not doing that already. You've gotta put yourself out there, bud. All we can give you on this site are typed words.

I don't think it's a case of nice guys being undervalued so much as quiet, unconfident guys allowing themselves to be invisible. Most heterosexual women think of kindness as one positive trait in a man, but it shouldn't be at the expense of a rewarding personality in a broader sense. It's one thing to have niceness in your heart, but you need to have the confidence and the social intelligence to actually *be nice*.

If you don't feel like you have control of the people you date, get into the habit of politely rejecting people. That requires confidence, but how else are you going to control who you end up in a relationship with?

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Nice guys do finish last (in bed), and that's why we love them!

I think it's a matter of meeting the right woman. While, it is true there are plenty of women who go for the assholes and this has stomped some of the nice out of guys that would otherwise be peaches, there ARE women who do go for the sweet ones.

I might not be part of the majority, but I grew up with some great male role models. My dad and my brothers are all "nice guys." Sooo- i have an aversion to the bad boy types, and In my opinion, nice is SEXY!

im a good guy a very good guy and a lot of girls try to hit on me all the time but i just say no,why,cause bad girls finish last for me.i had so many bad girls in my life that i just though of them as nothing fuck em they are not worth my time are effort.i want to be happy and free at the same time i cant get that with a bad women.besides all girls want is sex,i say go get it from some one else,unless your a virgin then i would be more then happy.

and trust me when i say this hot girls are not worth it cause they been run through like butter on toast,how i know this,cause hot girls get all the sex they want cause all the guys want them,its not worth it find your self a nerd a sweet girl that go to chruch.the only good ssex you gonna get out of the hot sexy girls is imagination.

I don't understand your point. You have had girlfriends, sex with these gf's, but you've never had the ability to say no? Why would you want to? They like you, but you don't like them? I don't get it.
If you want some super model, then unless you are very, very lucky (read here; good looking, rich AND charismatic), you are most likely not going to get one.
But there are girls who will go out with you, right? What's the problem?

Nice guys finish last bad guys have a blast
take his money grab his honey
Dump that loser fast
Who cares if you're nice?
Nice guys pay the price
Life lambasts them
While jerks cruise past them
Right to the head of the class
Because nice guys finish last!