Metoo is actually more complicated

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I had a discussion with a liberal colleague earlier and she cited the MeToo movement and said sexual harrassment is rampant in the work force with bosses harrassing their female workers. I started reading about it and looking at some of the cases in the media. And it seems to me its not always simply sexual harrassment just because the boss/supervisor texts the girls perverted texts and has sex with them.

It seems that often times the women are actually willing participants and at times even sounded like they were purposefully seducing their supervisors to move up in their career. It then seemed like in some cases after they seduced the supervisor and it didnt help their career as much as they hoped or even when it did they decided to turn around and claim they were sexually harrassed by their bosses and showed texts of their bosses saying things like "you looked so hot today" but they tended to leave out the information about their texts where they were feeding into it, even encouraging it.

So I asked myself is it always sexual harrassment when a supervisor has sex with an employee or is it more on the side of being unprofessional. Both are bad, but some cases dont seem to really be sexual harrassment even though people claim they are. I think that is a very serious accusation and someone shouldnt be labeled a predator if they arent.

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  • Tommythecaty
    3 years ago

    “It seems that often times the women are actually willing participants and at times even sounded like they were purposefully seducing their supervisors to move up in their career. It then seemed like in some cases after they seduced the supervisor and it didnt help their career as much as they hoped or even when it did they decided to turn around and claim they were sexually harrassed“

    No way is the type of person who uses sex to get ahead going to lie about it after they didn’t get the promotion. Why would that character be anything other than honest 😂

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      3 years ago

      Exactly, and the media goes along with it without asking questions. Why would they leave out things like "come over tonight and we will fuck"? That doesnt sound like rape.

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      • Tommythecaty
        3 years ago

        Because that’s not rape. The media loves to dramatise everything as the worst. There’s no headlines in “boss is just sleazy” lol.

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  • darefu
    3 years ago

    Two points,
    1st, If you're the supervisor or boss, other employees are off limits. I don't even like it when they're coworkers. The other workers always see or perceive favoritism between the two.
    2nd, If you're the subordinate, no job has that much importance, if you do it, or go along, just to keep your job, then you're selling your soul and become just as bad. Because your coworkers will just see it as you trying to screw yourself to the top, then complaining when you get, or don't get what you want. Or worse, the vengeance when the relationship ends and one wants to move on.
    If either truly likes someone they work with one should quit and date outside the work environment.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      3 years ago

      Thats how I see it

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  • [Old Memory]
    3 years ago

    They like the attention obviously.

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  • ChrissySnow
    3 years ago

    So, I've been in a lot of jobs where there was sexual tension, harassments and assaults but looking back I actually liked those jobs. I learned a lot and grew up a lot. Most of those early jobs there were way more men. I did not like getting a surprise full moon right in my face.

    Way later I also had a job were there was mostly perverted old ladies. We sexually twisted everything any guy said that came near us. That was a very twisted place to work and it changed my sense of humor. Anyways, I don't think sex has much to do with it. It seems like a choice to be thin-skinned or a good-sport

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      3 years ago

      At my job there was a widely respected supervisor that this one girl kept complaining was sexually harrassing her. Management moved her to other side of the building but she kept saying it happened. One day she brought a tape recorder in and caught him on tape saying stuff like "You should get on my knees and suck my ****". He got fired of course and I could always tell the guy was abit of a pychopath by how he treated some people. I do think it goes on just sometimes its claimed to be when not.

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  • radar
    3 years ago

    If your boss comes on to you and your job and career are important to you, you might feel like you had to go along with it. And then, you might be ashamed of those texts.

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    • darefu
      3 years ago

      So bosses and supervisors should be arrested on solicitation, or Johns and Janes should be cited for sexual harassment. Almost all prostitutes I've known or even heard of are doing it to keep there job or boss happy?

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      • radar
        3 years ago

        It's not prostitution, it's called coercion.

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        • darefu
          3 years ago

          Call it what you want, if they voluntarily sell their body, mind, and soul to keep a job or get a promotion (money). It's their choice to walk out or quit.
          If force is used it's rape if no force was used it's a choice.
          Of course prostitutes might like your idea when arrested, I was coerced by the job or money. I'm part of the metoo movement, I was sexually harassed.

          I agree the request for favors or conditions are given by certain people, (both male and female) in the work place. My point if everybody said no and was willing to quit and move on that boss or supervisor wouldn't last long.

          The problem is not everyone will say No, and we know that, so it's either give in or lose the job. But you tell me who's your real problem. There is always some suck up that will do what ever the boss wants even if it is illegal or against work place rules. Not just sexual favors or rules.

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          • radar
            3 years ago

            I think you and I are coming from two very different standpoints on this matter. I get where you're coming from but don't agree.

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            • darefu
              3 years ago

              Understood, I've been in the situation at least twice. Both resulted in missed opportunities when turned down but both opened other doors that I would have never thought of.
              I look back still glad I didn't give in. To me it would not have been worth 3 to 5 years of my time to try and get them fired and most likely lose the battle anyway.

              I'm happier I moved on. They're not worth that kind of time out of my life.

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  • Somenormie
    3 years ago

    They are going too far.

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