Men today are pretty disappointing. iin?

They have no real life skills! A man should know how to handle any situation. No real man should ever HAVE to call a repairman or call in help before even TRYING to handle it. It makes me sick that so many men can't tend to things in their own households, they rely on plumbers, mechanics, contractors, and practically need an electrician to change a light bulb. A man should be able to handle, at least temporarily, any need that arises on his property and his automobile.

I'm a woman and I can do more than most men. I run my household doing virtually any task, no matter the trade it involves. I do everything from plumbing to accounting. It makes me sick to even think about picking up a phone and calling in help. Men these days don't even try anymore, it's pathetic. It's uncomfortable to be around such useless men, and it's also disgusting that so many men are so useless.

is it normal to feel this way?

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  • VioletTrees

    "A man should know how to handle any situation." Are you sure you're not thinking of superheroes? I think you're thinking of superheroes.

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    • No. My father was a proper man and no matter what happened he could take care of it. He'd take charge and do what needed to be done. I learned to be this way as well. No matter what happens, I can take care of ANY situation.

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      • VioletTrees

        What do you mean by "take care of"? Do you mean you can fix anything yourself? Anything? Why doesn't hiring help count as taking care of things? Why is this tied to being a man, rather than being a competent human? Most women can't do all the things you named, either.

        Your dad sounds great, but remember, not everybody had a parent that capable who taught them how to do everything. Some people have to learn everything themselves, and that can be very difficult.

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        • I'm not even going to bother answering this. I think the answers are obvious enough.

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          • VioletTrees

            Hm? I don't think they are, since I honestly have no idea what you would answer.

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      • OswaldCobblepot

        You're using the past tense. Has your father died? Seems like he couldn't take care of ANY situation, now could he?

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        • dom180

          Oh my God, that was dark.

          But I love it ;D

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        • No, he's till alive as far as I know but I haven't lived with him for quite some time so his activities have no bearing on my life anymore and haven't for a long time now.

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          • disthing

            You don't even have a relationship with him? Yet you think all men should be like him?

            I see something wrong with that. I'd rather a dad that couldn't put up a shelf whom I maintained a good relationship with than one who can build a house but is a distant memory once I turn 20.

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            • What? I have a relationship with him but we're not up each other's asses. I haven't seen him in several months so I can't attest 100% that he's alive at this moment but I assume he is since no one has called me to tell me he keeled over. I'm not going to check up on him though. We do our own thing, we're not clingy. That's how we like it.

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      • Skitzo1

        Don't compare every man to your father. Not everyone was raised the same way you were. Did you even stop to think that some men dont have fathers? Who would they learn it all from then? If you compare men to your father whom you obviously admire, then you will be surely dissapointed. You will hold high expectations for every man and it will only lead to more and more dissapointment. Wheras if you dont have high expectations, you might actually be impressed by something. And maybe those men are not suited to the task of being a handyman? Maybe they can actually do something you could never do in a million years? Then what do you say? Nothing. Your severely underestimating us missy!

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  • disthing

    I think your view point is pretty disappointing, and by extension you are pretty disappointing.

    You had a father who knew a lot. He was your role model, and you're comparing the other men in your life to him.

    Many people aren't brought up with parental role models like your father. A lot of men don't even have a father figure when they're growing up. Furthermore, if you've never had to fix a car, to fix a leak, to build a shed etc. you're unlikely to have experienced the processes required.

    I agree that a lot of people could do with learning some basic manual and maintenance skills, especially if they're likely to need those skills multiple times. But I think this applies to women as well as men. A lot of these skills require time, equipment, instructions and practice - not everybody is privileged to have these, and plenty of people are willing to pay other people to alleviate the burden.

    It's like a man belittling women who aren't adept at domestic chores because his mother was a multitalented housewife and that's how REAL WOMEN should be. It's an outdated and unfair expectation. We aren't all archetypical and we aren't all aspiring to be. Don't insult us just because you think all men should be versions of your father.

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    • "A lot of men don't even have a father figure when they're growing up."

      True, and that's the MAN'S fault for not being there. Again that reflects poorly on men in general. Was that supposed to be some redeeming point in favor of men, because really it's just the opposite.

      "Furthermore, if you've never had to fix a car, to fix a leak, to build a shed etc. you're unlikely to have experienced the processes required."

      Take the opportunity to "try" at least when the need arises. Everyone starts out learning knowing nothing. If you never try though, you never learn.

      I have no problem with men expecting certain things from women. I wish more men DID have better expectations on what a real woman should do, then maybe we wouldn't have such fucked up families.

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      • disthing

        No, it wasn't in any way meant to be a 'redeeming point in favour of men'. For one thing, it's not a competition between the sexes. I'm merely explaining how not having a father figure can mean males (and females) grow up without a traditional concept of masculinity. Consequently boys won't necessarily mould themselves or be moulded to adhere to the stereotype (the one you desire).

        I agree that people should take the opportunity to try, if they have the time, tools and adequate instruction. However, suggesting somebody should jump in when a pipe bursts and water is flooding their house is a bit different. There are certain situations where it's much safer and more sensible to hire somebody who has had years of experience and training. Trial and error is all well and good but only within reason.

        Well you may not have a problem with men expecting women to conform to a pre-1960s archetype but I quite like the level of freedom people in 'the west' have now - that we aren't as pressured to pretend to be something we're not. Also, fucked up families aren't new, and are not a symptom of men and women deviating from the gender roles of caveman times. The amount of horror stories you hear about dysfunctional families from before divorce became socially acceptable and women wore trousers is certainly comparable to modern times, if not worse.

        I think you have very old fashioned views, and perhaps you're unaware of how sexist it is to expect men to mould themselves around your ideal. For one thing, you deviate from the tradition - you say you do plumbing, accounting etc. you're not conforming to the stereotype, you're actually a capable woman willing to get her hands dirty. So you're bucking the obsolete notion of the weaker, fairer albeit dimmer sex, yet expect us to continue as the strong, silent, manly man that builds and fixes things and expects ladies to do the housework. Why are you 'allowed' to deviate from the conventional female role yet you find us men doing the same 'disgusting' and 'pathetic'? Can you even comprehend the hypocrisy?

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  • dom180

    If you have certain skills, that is great. If you prefer men who have certain skills, that is great too. You have a type, congratulations.

    However, please refrain from calling people who do not fit that type "disgusting", "pathetic" and "useless".

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    • I won't refrain from doing so because that is how I feel. I'm not sorry if that offends people either.

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  • charli.m

    ...I'd rather a man who knows his capabilities, and is able to say, "Nup, can't do this" and call a professional (this is WHY we have professionals, after all...) instead of the "I'm a man, I can do this shit because I have balls" train of thought and then arse it up.

    Someone not fitting a gender stereotype does not make them more or less of a person.

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    • I'd rather he try at least instead of immediately calling in help.

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  • normalisboringbr0

    let's reverse this and see. less than a hundred years ago, if a woman were unable to cook, clean, reproduce and enjoy spending her life caring for those children as her lifetime career and ultimate purpose, there was something wrong with her..... sorry, you just seem a bit sexist. men and women can and cannot do different things. not everyone has the capability of the typical american tv character and fits the "perfect" husband role.

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  • dodongos

    You know what I can't stand? Females these days are always on the internet! They're all so USELESS and waste their time on their stupid cell phones and constantly posting boob-shots on Facebook. My mother NEVER wasted her time with cell phones or social media networks. She also had 6 kids and stayed at home, cooking and cleaning. A woman should stay in the kitchen and care for the children. Is it normal to think that all women today are pretty disappointing?

    ^How fucking stupid you sound.

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  • Paradiddle

    Its alright Fix-It Felix, when you have a magic hammer from your father, how hard can it be? To be fair though Felix, not every man grew up with a magic hammer so you can't give a negative outlook on men who can't just because they weren't raised like you were. You're just letting your upbringing cloud your judgement and expectations. If all Sergeant Calhoun did was cook, I'd marry her. She just HAPPENS to also wear heavy duty armor and can shoot down any intruders faster than a chicken hawk in a coop of crippled roosters, but that is unexpected icing on the cake. I'd say it takes a man to admit he can't do something, within reason, and request help than to try something that he clearly doesn't have the experience to do and Wreck-It.

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  • Mando

    What a huge and cornball stereotype. Anyway liking a guy who is handy is fine. Appreciating self reliance is OK. But elevating Handy Andy to defining the gold standard of manhood and feeling all disappointed just says you don't understand men at all.

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  • You should marry Tim Allen

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  • davesumba

    I could say the same thing about women...

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    • This is true, but I don't care about women. I like men.

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  • coolio75650932

    HOW DARE YOU! I AM A STAY AT HOME FATHER OF 4 CHILDREN AND YOU THINK EVERY SINGLE MAN SHOULD HANDLE EVERY SINGLE SITUATION!? You ma'am know nothing of how hard it is for me to work every day to provide food for my family than you come and say that IM lazy? WHAT ABOUT WOMEN they always expect men to do work FOR them...You sexist basterds...You are not and never will truly understand love or parenting.

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  • DADNSCAL

    I think you have a narrow minded stereotypical view of manhood. It's the same as men who say that any woman who can't cook, sew, and bake like his mother isn't a real woman. Value people for who they are,not what repair bills they can save you.

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  • Sog

    My only advice then is to try picking up guys at Home Depot.

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    • I have a man already. He's OK but unfortunately I surpass him in most trades/skills except for 1. It works out fine in the end though, while it's slightly disappointing I prefer to be in charge anyway so this way there's no power struggle. He does what he's good at, I do the rest.

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  • Moneybagschest

    All of us have limitations.

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  • AbnormallyAwesome

    Okay, I'm not the Bear Grills kind of person you would accept as a male being. I can't change a tire, hunt a tiger or fix anything. But you no what? I can draw beautiful pictures, I can program stuff and help you understand art, design or history. Can Bear Grills do that? No? Guess he's not a complete man then.

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    • That's nice but if you can't do even the most basic things for your own survival and maintenance then what good is knowing art?

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      • AbnormallyAwesome

        Just because I coulnd't survive in the wild does not mean I can't live in a modern society. The human brain hasn't evolved much since the dark ages, but our culture has. Now there are so many new skills to learn that nobody needed before. So therefore us men got rid of some outdated skills to make room for the new ones. We can't have everything - As somebody said before we are no superheroes.

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  • Fabulous

    I know what I want is a woman with a penis like me

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  • nelly96

    I agree with you completely. I grew up having MEN as my male figures. So it definitely surprised me when I started meeting other boys in the world.
    Most of them are scared of hard labor these days, where an increasing number of us women won't hesitate to get hands dirty.
    I'm no feminist, honestly but I strongly believe that women are going to become the stronger species further down the track of evolution.

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    • AbnormallyAwesome

      You're not feminist but you see women as a species?

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  • GoraIntoDesiGals

    Yeah and women today don't cook for us or don't do our laundry. Tit for tat.

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  • TwoThumbs

    Part of being a real man is admitting to being human. Noone knows how to do everything...and I am an ex engineer turned actor/comedian speaking. I can change a tire, mow your lawn, cut down a tree, fight, hunt, nurture, speak multiple languages, cry, laugh, joke, or write you a poem...but at the end of the day...

    Well...at the end of the day you have unreasonable expectations of a man. This would be like a man saying a woman "should put out whenever the he wants" or a "woman shouldn't go to school because she should only be a homemaker". These are ridiculous 1950's archetypes of people. We as a society evolve....I think all people...men and women should learn basic life skills...but we should also have the patience to teach those around us.

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  • felixbelacan

    yeah it makes me sick when a guy fren of mine could not change his car's tyre while fetching his girl... he has to called me out in the night to do it for him...

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  • michaels4p5

    i agree but we would work well together.

    when your getting a new roof put on you do need a contractor for one reason if they mess up they will
    have to re-fix the damage they have done but other
    stuff like fixing pipes we could do i think it all
    comes down to laziness.

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  • Legion

    while it is good to know the skills to fix something, it doesnt make them any less of a person if they dont. Besides, many things anymore are made so that only a professional can fix them, or so that its cheaper to buy new than to fix them.

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  • NotStrangeBird

    I would be very surprised if i called a plumber and a woman showed up.

    I would also be aroused.

    Unfortunately I fail to live up to your low expectations by doing my own plumbing.

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  • DubstepismyMJ

    Dont ever generalize like you know the whole male population. You sound like an ignorant dumbass.

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  • diaperwolf21

    You women did this to us! We cant do the manly shit around the house cause, frankly, we are tired of hearing you bitch all the time on how we cant ever seem to get shit done. So If we know someone that can do it in a jiff, we can skip the senseless bitching, and get back to our useless lives!

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  • I_got_a_cupcake

    I think they're very boring. Well, I have met a couple nice ones. But I'm not romantically interested in men so I'm not too peeved off by it. But I do think that men my age should grow up a little bit...

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  • GreyWulfen

    Depends on the man. I know some pretty good ones.

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  • dirtybirdy

    Plenty of them men can. Though I do know a guy who can't change a tire o_O

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    • VioletTrees

      I don't really understand why that's any less acceptable than a woman who can't change a tire. Mind, I personally think that if you drive, it's a good idea to know how. It's worth noting that not everybody who can drive is physically capable of changing a tire, though.

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      • dirtybirdy

        Oh you and your correctness. I think this guy in particular should have known how to change a tire. He just chose to be a bulltit.

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