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On average, are married couples who are raising kids less self-centered than those couples who don't have kids?
This could apply to single parents as well or non-married common-law couples.
| Yes. No kids = more self-absorption. | 11 | |
| No. There is no difference. | 28 | |
| It's possible: having kids makes people less selfish. | 19 | |
| I don't understand the question. | 7 | |
| I can't decide but I'll leave a comment about it. | 2 |
I don't know about that exactly. I just know one thing: Couples without kids = WAY more opportunities for sex.
You forgot an option for "Having kids makes some people solipsistic assholes who think the entire world revolves around them and their crotch-dumplings."
I know more people who have become self-absorbed monsters after popping out kids than I do selfish people who choose not to have children. That doesn't mean every family with kids is selfish -- far from it -- but I have never understood how choosing not to have kids is seen as a selfish option by some parents. I'm opting to use fewer resources, spend less money, create less waste, have more income to devote to charity and have more free time with which to volunteer; how does that make me selfish for not spawning?
I've thought the opposite of some people before. I've known of people to have kids because they "wanted someone to love them" which is completely pathetic to me. Theres no guarentee that your kids will even like you. Also it is cruel to bring people into this world the way it is. I think more people need to decide to not have kids. Theres to many people and I hate waiting in traffic.
So how it is gonna be in a few decades if people stop having children? There will be just a bunch of old people in this world? And who the fuck will support the elder people. Every generation needs another younger generation to support them. Otherwise most people will have a very tough time providing for themselves. This is how it always was. You and the other ones who support the idea of people not having kids are part of the new Al Gore environmentalist liberalist retard generation. The kind of people who walk by unphased by a person lying on the ground badly hurt or dying.
I never said nobody should have kids. I said less people should have kids. There are way too many unfit parents nowdays, at least there are where I live. People will have kids no matter what. One thing I do feel strongly about however is a required parenting licence to have kids. I don't think my ideas are ridiculous. There are just way too many bad parents. I feel disapointment and failure in society when I go to walmart or the dmv. I also do not see what this has to do with someone dying in public.
Having children or not having children has absolutely zero bearing on whether someone is self centred or not.
Well we also have to consider:
-The cost of having a children
-The area is not child-friendly
-Medical infertility, meaning there's a biological reasoning a heterosexual couple can't have children.
-Social infertility, such as a gay or lesbian couple being unable to have biological children.
-Cultural infertility, like when a couple (or single) wants to use A.R.T. (assisted reproductive technology) to have biological children, but are rejected by private clinics because of language barriers, personal beliefs of the doctors/clinic owners (they think you're too old to have children, they don't like homosexuals, or don't want to help interracial couples, etc etc etc).
-Adoption can take years, tons of money, and lots of legal processes that are unique state-by-state with restrictions.
-Or it could be just as simple as, I don't desire children.
I mean, to label it as "selfishness" by not having children is selfish thinking in itself. Reproduction is a fundamental right. That includes my choice to reproduce, as well my choice NOT to reproduce. And rearing children doesn't mean someone is any less selfish. Many children are abused, abandoned. Some children are results of rape or incest. Some are unplanned- in fact many are unplanned. Some may argue getting an abortion is selfish or unselfish pending a person's beliefs.
Not to mention, some people argue that our choices to help others can also be selfish. We say all the time, "Tis better to give than receive." So then it could be argued that me giving money to a homeless stranger isn't necessarily for their benefit, but for my own personal boost of confidence. Using such a discrete word like "selfishness" doesn't work. It's like trying to define "love" or "freedom". It's a person-by-person definition.
Lots of people have kids and are bad parents. That makes them self centered to me.
I think it's the opposite. Once a woman becomes a "mother", oh God, you never hear the end of it. Constantly talking about their kids, how they have no time, how they're getting fat, how difficult being a mother is, how 'you wouldn't understand, you don't have kids'.
Why on earth would you bring children into this shitfuck of a world.
Every one stop breeding and start thinking !!!
Ps: I am a psychic !
Whether or not you have kids doesn't do much in the way of affect how selfish you are. In my current situation (shitty job, going to college, shitty car, shitty neighborhood), having kids would probably be MORE selfish of me than if I were to wait until I have a career and a better home to have kids.
No, my husband and I don't have kids. I am a fairly hedonistic person but I would not say that I am entirely selfish. I'm just trying to be young, live my life and start my career before I have kids. In my own little philosophy, I see parenting as a privilege that I have yet to earn until I have something better to offer than the crap I have now to my future children.
I know plenty of women with children who are extremely self centred and believe that they are more important than everyone else just because they have kids. Men are generally stay the same as they are even after becoming a father.
Well I know when you have a kid you have to focus all your effort and energy on being there for the child. I am not sure however if not having would necessarily make you more self centred though. I have aunts who don’t have that are considered selfish. Though everyone always thought that about them from the time they were young. So not sure if that really counts. Though when you do not have kids you might have more money to do things for yourself. I don't think spending your extra cash to go out and eat with your husband/wife or go on a trip is self centred is it?
If that's self-centered, fine. I don't mind being self-centered as long as I'm Good.
I have met a few people who like to put their kids on display. But behavior like that is just someones personality. I doubt it's the act of having kids that makes them that way.