Is this a normal and appropriate friendship?

My husband has become very close friends with our 15 year old daughters friend (also 15). They have a lot in common (geeky stuff/TV shows/Gaming). He has become very close with her and they often chat privately on Facebook, they also see each other almost weekly when a group of them (including my husband, son, her and her mother) go to a local gaming store to play D&D. Our daughter is uninterested so does not attend these game nights.
He says he loves her like family, and they are often affectionate physically (similar to that of his own children), sitting on his lap (her choice), cuddling against him while watching TV, hugs, tickles etc.. and more recently I learned of a few times he chose to sit in the backseat with her while on the way to game night (a couple times in a car and at least once in the 3rd seat of a van).
On Facebook messages I have found a few comments from him to her that made me uncomfortable including: "I love you", "I miss you", "I hope we can get together tomorrow", "Maybe we can find a way to cuddle with no one getting upset."
I find it inappropriate, he does not agree.

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  • Angel_in_a_Glass_Dress

    "Maybe we can find a way to cuddle with no one getting upset."

    If he's looking for a way to cuddle her without getting other's upset then... he's got more than just cuddling on his mind.

    If his intentions were innocent he wouldn't be worried about getting caught. It's time to get counseling now before he gets arrested for putting his "dice stick" where it shouldn't go.

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  • pala

    Benefit of the doubt until the last paragraph. I miss you? Uh oh. Alarm bells. Great big alarm bells.

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  • GothamCityDiva

    C'mon now, the obvious answer is NO it is not appropriate- specifically with the facebook comment.

    Whether it is platonic or not the fact that he is ignoring that you find it inappropriate is a problem.

    I think that alone say's a lot.

    You are his wife. Your feelings matter most.

    I would think a loving husband would sacrifice a "strong bond" with an adolescent to salvage the good terms he is on with his spouse of X amount years.

    Or at least understand why you find it inappropriate and change his behavior immediately.

    This is wrong. You need to stop it. Quick.

    In my opinion I would not be surprised if one day you found out they screwed.

    Not being mean, just being real.

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  • chels_87

    I'd tell him that it makes you feel uncomfortable and remind him how it could appear. Even if it is innocent he's putting himself in a dangerous postion, this girl could turn around and say anything. And with people seeing how they are together they will assume the worst, leaving him, you and tour family open to abuse and all sorts. Personally I would nip it in the bud and insist that if he is around this girl that their not left alone together and be aware of things he says to her and pull him up if you think its not appropriate

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  • weinereater

    Cuddling with friends dad when your 15 is weird.

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  • Charmo

    I can understand him wanting to enjoy friendship with someone that has similar interests as him, regardless of age or gender. Nevertheless, his behaviour sounds inappropriate for a married man, in my opinion.

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  • purplegirl22

    He is treading on thin ice you need to take action before something happens. He is your husband so take the initiative before it is too late. When I read that he said "Maybe we can find a way to cuddle with no one getting upset" I was like WOAH. He wouldn't have said that unless he knows what he's doing is unorthodox, take hold of your man he needs some help and intervention. Good luck!

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  • TerryVie

    I think it could be a normal thing. If, say, it was your sons male friend and your husband had geeky stuff in common, that would be fine. If the game night would be 2 fathers and sons, no problem. It's like, why would it be so much different with a female?

    I do understand some things make you uncomfortable though, and no matter if there is danger or not, those things should be addressed...and that is the physical closeness they seek. Cuddling or sitting on his lap are simply things that don't seem approbiate, there's nothing about being upset, it simply makes you uncomfortable and you'd prefer if he did not do that.

    Unless there is more reason, i don't think you have to be afraid of something, but you should still have that talk.

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  • Who_Fan4Life

    LOL "I miss you.''

    Oh, really pedo?

    Yeah, that's a little troubling....

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  • I have heard teachers say the exact same thing to their children students when they are leaving to go to highschool.
    Most of the were female teachers. Does that mean that they wanted to molest their students? Perhaps this man just has a strong connection and wishes her to be one of his own kids? Perhaps his actual daughter has nothing in commen with him, and he has found a girl that he thought his daughter would be like to fill in the part that he knows his child isn't the way he would like her to be?

    Keep a close eye on them, but don't assume the worst straight away.

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  • Whatever25

    No, it's not normal. Tell him the way you feel about it and if he doesn't stop maybe you should tell the girl's parents. Risking your husband to get sued but let's face it, he probably has it coming,

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  • eastbeast

    Newsflash!

    He is already fucking her.

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  • Crudhouse

    How old is your husband? Also, there was a guy here with the same story, where he wanted to know whether his actions were okay. Did you post that or are both of you guys on here?

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    • thewife

      That was most likely my husbands post. I felt his poll left out important information about their interactions. So I did my own.

      Why does his age matter? He is an adult she is a child the same age as one of ours.

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      • Crudhouse

        The younger your husband the more likely sexual intentions are present. The FB cuddling statement sort of tips the actions over to inappropriate.

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  • Welshy

    That don't sound right & if they haven't already, only a matter of time till they do.... :-/

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  • assume the worst and put a stop to it, if you cant you could go gaming with them

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  • pondford

    Your husband sounds like he still has an inner child and now he has simply found a close friend of similar interests in your daughter's friend. That, or he's treading close to pedophilia; perhaps without knowing so (Almost everything spoke of a friendly father-daughter sort of relationship except the "Maybe we can find a way to cuddle with no one getting upset" is very worrying to read. Why would cuddling upset others unless it's a type of cuddling that happens behind closed doors? Very worrying, indeed). I don't know your husband or your daughter's friend and their relationship well enough to make a sound opinion. I suggest talking reasonably and calmly about it with your husband again. Maybe talk about it with the girl's parents? Communication in marriage is key after all.

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  • Just_feed_me_Troll_Meat

    I dont see anything really wrong with it in all honesty. A man has needs and after all you are probably getting old and saggy yourself in some of the more important places. Besides in another year she will be 16, age of consent, so at that point he would be in the clear completely.

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    • pondford

      Talk about being blunt. lol.

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      • Just_feed_me_Troll_Meat

        Sometimes the truth hurts, at least I have the testicular fortitude to tell it like it is.

        Remember 16 is the age of consent, let him go have some fun. After all how much weight have you put on? And dont lie I know middle age women always put on some weight.

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        • Lynxikat

          I don't really understand it when someone on IIN asks a deeply personal and honest story that they seriously would like some help with like this one, and then people like you troll them.

          You could have possibly made OP feel bad about herself, but no, you don't care, because you're a troll. And trolls have no soul.

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          • Just_feed_me_Troll_Meat

            None of us have any souls. I dont, the OP doesnt, and you dont either!

            We are no different then termites scurrying around in dirt mounds.

            And if you are mad, then get mad. Get real mad.

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            • Lynxikat

              I'm not mad, because trolls aren't worth any sort of anger.

              I'm just baffled. So do you think you could actually give me an honest, actual response of why you troll the stories where the OP genuinely need help?

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  • DiscoDuck

    People say I love you to their kids all the time.

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    • Did you miss the part that says she is NOT his daughter??

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      • DiscoDuck

        But he loves her like she is his own daughter right.

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        • Lynxikat

          But dads don't usually say "Maybe we can find a way to cuddle without anyone getting upset".

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