Is there a name for this sort of fetish and does it make me a pedo?

A lot of guys like panties, and many even like YOUNG girls panties. I'm into the young girls clothes, but not the panties. I like their outfits and styles, and I go crazy over anything a young girl (anywhere from 6 to maybe about 14) wears that is denim or looks like denim at all, like maybe courdoroys stitched into a "jeans" look for instance. I would never touch the girl in a harmful way, in fact although I've ONLY felt real love for women around my own age give or take a few years (I'm 28), there seems to be an aversion to thoughts of actual sex, and the feelings are innocent and crush like. The same aversion applies to young girls, and I've NEVER felt "in love" with one, but their clothing turns me on like nobody's business! I have two fantasy types, both being kind of humiliation based: In one the girls KNOW they turn me on, and taunt and laugh at me for it, mockingly posing and wiggling as they tease and taunt, with nothing I can do about it. In the other one a girl (and sometimes her sister/friend) catches me staring and she sends her parents off somewhere for a minute so she can boldly approach me. She says she's caught me, and I explain what it's really about. She takes pity on me and decides to give me her outfit to keep, either having a change handy or just "stashing" them somewhere for me to "find" later, also knowing how weird and sad it is but doing it out of pity. Sometimes I even ask her for a few pictures of her in the outfit since all I'll ever have is the clothes, and pitying me again but in a rush she agrees. "Umm... okay... hehehe... I guess... I'll go stand by that wall, make it quick though I have hmework..." that kind of thing. Can anyone give me a sure answer to this?

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  • reminiscent

    I think you have pedophilia tendencies. I meen you're not just imagining the clothing by themselves you are imagining them on little girls who are engaging you in a sexual manner.
    I hope you realize no underage child would ever behave this way towards you.
    I would advise you to seek professional help.

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    • disthing

      Whilst I'd agree that this is sexual objectification of young girls, although more as a fetish than as pedophilia (which is something different), advising seeking therapy is pretty useless in this case.

      I mean, unless OP is actually actively seeking to turn their fantasy into reality, what exactly is the point of therapy? Fetishes can rarely be 'talked' away, and although OP's fantasy might make a lot of people uncomfortable, it seems pretty harmless to me.

      A lot of people around here seem pretty unaware of the complexity of human sexuality, fetishism and chronophilias (pedophilia included). The default response ('seek help') is sometimes not very constructive imo :)

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      • reminiscent

        I dont think it could make it disappear ...I think it could help him with his fetish ...make sure it doesnt escalate to a point of no return. Also would give op someone he could talk to who wont be biased on the situation...who can maintain a professional perspective.
        as holding his thoughts in couldn't be good...repressing things never is.

        So my advice to seek a professional still stands.

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        • disthing

          You're totally entitled to your view. I respect that :)

          Because of how understandably taboo sexual attraction to children or child-like behaviour is, society as a whole is still incredibly unwilling to address these feelings in public - that includes psychologists, who tend to be preoccupied with those who have committed sexual crimes, rather than those who have yet to offend, and may never do so.

          This means the average therapist may be ill-equipped to provide a constructive service to someone like OP (hence another reservation I have about 'seeking help' in these cases).

          Although I wouldn't say OP fits the diagnostic criteria for a pedophile based on this post alone, this is an interesting interview with a teen who started a self-help group for pedophiles after being let down by therapists he sought advice from:
          https://medium.com/matter/youre-16-youre-a-pedophile-you-dont-want-to-hurt-anyone-what-do-you-do-now-e11ce4b88bdb

          Interesting reading, even if you still consider therapy to be the best advice in this case.

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          • reminiscent

            Its extreamly taboo because it only hurts. There is no way for people with these fantasies to ever be able to act them out without harm to the other person because that person is a child. And child porn also harms children ...so even if they dont personally seek out a child they are still hurting them.
            The only safe way I will say is threw art...writings or drawings. and im ok as ling as no real person is hurt... its cuncerning when this isnt enough for some people.

            People will never be ok with people with pedophile tendencies even if they have yet to commit a crime... purely for the fact that you cant ever really trust them around children.

            Therapy by someone who has more experiance with people with this probkem would be ideal. A support group is also nice.

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            • disthing

              Yep, as I said, the reasons it's taboo are understandable.

              But a societal reluctance to overcome the taboo and address the issue in a calm and rational manner is counterintuitive.

              We need to celebrate and support any person pre-emptively seeking help to manage their pedophilia and avoid offending, not hound them into the darkness where they're more likely to offend. And we need to fund research and support networks within the community, just as we do with drug addiction programs, mental health groups etc. :)

              The cartoon thing is another contentious issue - in the UK, even sexualised cartoon depictions of children are illegal.

              I'm rambling... Like a cranky old guy in a care home...

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      • CountessDouche

        Is that really true?

        Because I've given that advice before, and I never intended to express any notions that therapy could "do away with" a sexual fetish or compulsion...I honestly just figured that therapists may be able to provide some behavioral coping mechanisms to help people control their impulses...

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        • disthing

          Don't get me wrong, I think there are advantages to discussing sexual behaviour with a therapist if you're incredibly anxious or unsure about how to handle it. It can help people cope with feelings, or understand themselves better.

          So I'm not trying to say it's the wrong advice, necessarily! I expect you use good judgement.

          I just think in situations where a person isn't obviously a 'risk', to themselves or others, and isn't necessarily in the kind of distress that usually warrants professional help, it's not always constructive advice.

          It's kind of like... If someone asked "IIN I've never been good at mathematics?" and the advice given was to "go find a maths tutor"... It might be the right advice for someone in desperate need of improving their maths skills - but if they're comfortable with being crap at maths and never use maths anyway, it's not helpful advice :P

          If you see what I mean (sorry for the rubbish analogy)

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          • CountessDouche

            I get what you're saying, and I'm not one of those people that thinks every single person with pedophilic tendencies is a ticking time bomb who will inevitably act on his or her sexual impulses...in fact, I would think that these inclinations are more common than anyone would guess.

            However, I do tend to air on the side of caution, because the consequences of someone not being able to appropriately deal with their "problem" involve children being sexually abused, not a failed math test.

            By no means do I think that seeing a therapist is a solution, or something that would ever do away with these thoughts, but I always assumed that it would be helpful. Perhaps a therapist could provide ways to avoid situations that might trigger sexual thoughts, ways to manage triggers, or coping techniques...ways to talk yourself off a ledge, so to speak...or having failed that, a safe environment to discuss one's sexual proclivities.

            God knows, it must be incredibly isolating to have thoughts about pedophilia...it's the most taboo of all taboos...not something that could be easily discussed with others, and the internet is a terrible forum to seek an outlet regarding this matter because searching it is just as likely to yield "fictional" stories about how to seduce a child (perfectly legal) and detailed verbal justifications for acting out on these types of impulses.

            In this situation, I don't see how therapy could be a bad thing, given the gravity of the possible consequences.

            Admittably, I don't know a lot about it though. You seem to be much more educated on the matter; I'm just wondering exactly why you would see getting therapy as bad advice.

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            • iamre321

              Really mature reply.
              Check out my question:

              There's this girl that I've sort of developed feelings for recently. Our families have been friends for a long time, but I've never really thought of her as like any thing other than a little sister until recently. She's going through puberty right now, and has gotten very pretty lately. She was always really mature, nice, and smart and really the type of girl that I like, but there's a big age gap between us- I'm 20 and she's 12. I feel really really bad for feeling about her that way, but I can't stop thinking about her lately.

              To be honest I'm just a regular guy, most people would say I'm decently attractive, and pretty easy going, but I've honestly never had a girlfriend. I've always been too busy or just never meet the right girl. Throughout middle school and high school many of the girls I knew were really mean and would often tease,spread rumors ,etc... Now in college its still similar- many of the girls I meet are pretty shallow. It's always either the girls I meet have a good personality but not physically attractive to me (guess that makes me shallow too) or vice versa. I know nothing would ever happen between me and her, and she probably doesn't feel the same way, but I still can't help but imagine what it would have been like if I were her age going to the same school as her, or just taking her somewhere on a date like to the movies or carnival or something. I'm not sure, I usually don't feel this way about people and feel really bad that I feel this way about her but I can't stop thinking about her.

              There seems to be a couple of us in similar situations...You can find my question by searching "Is it normal to like younger girls?" and read all the responses and details on the post after finding it, I'm curious as to what you think..

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            • disthing

              I think it's bad advice in some cases, only when it doesn't seem like a justified response i.e. when someone's behaviour or emotions don't appear to require a professional intervention.

              Not saying following that advice would necessarily adversely affect the person in question, just that sometimes I doubt it would help in any way, shape or form, so recommending it seems silly. Therapy can be stressful and embarrassing, especially when it pertains to something so taboo - so that has to be factored in to the response too.

              You might find this interview interesting, as well:
              https://medium.com/matter/youre-16-youre-a-pedophile-you-dont-want-to-hurt-anyone-what-do-you-do-now-e11ce4b88bdb

              ...Although I need to stop spamming that link :P

              My two pennies, dragged out across way too many paragraphs! I seem to be in the minority, so I'll shut my mouth :)

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          • iamre321

            Really mature reply.
            Check out my question:

            There's this girl that I've sort of developed feelings for recently. Our families have been friends for a long time, but I've never really thought of her as like any thing other than a little sister until recently. She's going through puberty right now, and has gotten very pretty lately. She was always really mature, nice, and smart and really the type of girl that I like, but there's a big age gap between us- I'm 20 and she's 12. I feel really really bad for feeling about her that way, but I can't stop thinking about her lately.

            To be honest I'm just a regular guy, most people would say I'm decently attractive, and pretty easy going, but I've honestly never had a girlfriend. I've always been too busy or just never meet the right girl. Throughout middle school and high school many of the girls I knew were really mean and would often tease,spread rumors ,etc... Now in college its still similar- many of the girls I meet are pretty shallow. It's always either the girls I meet have a good personality but not physically attractive to me (guess that makes me shallow too) or vice versa. I know nothing would ever happen between me and her, and she probably doesn't feel the same way, but I still can't help but imagine what it would have been like if I were her age going to the same school as her, or just taking her somewhere on a date like to the movies or carnival or something. I'm not sure, I usually don't feel this way about people and feel really bad that I feel this way about her but I can't stop thinking about her.

            There seems to be a couple of us in similar situations...You can find my question by searching "Is it normal to like younger girls?" and read all the responses and details on the post after finding it, I'm curious as to what you think..

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    • Ellenna

      Agree generally with yr post, except it's not true that no underage children ever act seductively towards adults, invariably because they've been taught to do so by a pedophiliac adult.

      Some pedophiles believe kids are being seductive when in fact the kids are just seeking affection or attention.

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      • reminiscent

        I think innocent acts are done by children and for some reason the adult thinks that he/she wants it or is giving the green light. This is a problem in the mind if the adult
        and I assume is something along the same lines a rapist has when he says the girl wanted it.

        As for trained children they wouldnt normally act that way without being groomed first.

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        • Ellenna

          Exactly but not sure what you mean by trained?

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          • reminiscent

            When an adult works with the child grooming thrm and telling them what to do.

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            • Ellenna

              Oh I sort of get what you were saying: groomed kids wouldn't do this if they hadn't been groomed? Well no, I guess not!

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        • stickhard

          That's BS I've had several underage girls see the bulge in my pants and put on a sweet show for me to see me get more aroused. They smile and just wiggle it more and look to see the way it affect you very few of them don't know or do it

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          • reminiscent

            Oh so your saying that having sex at a young age is not detramental? That people who do dont need years of therapy?
            If an underage girl is doing that she already has issues ... maybe she was exposed to sexual things or molested even younger ...

            A child doing anything like you have mentioned is quite alarming.

            If you think otherwise you are full of BS...

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            • stickhard

              You want to put all the blame on just 1 side and I admit it is probably 50 50. Young girls know more than you may think, they aren't daddies little angels any more. If you had your way any action that is so called perverse in your world equate to therapy. I hate to tell you this but this world isn't flawless and the children do have sexual thoughts at younger ages and no I don't think that sex at a younger ages is any problem except the stigma we add to it, we are the ones as a society are the issue we make the young afraid of being sexual it's not so wrong for them to have sex at a younger age as long as we let them know to make right choices and they are educated to understand their sexuality and not hide it from them I'm not suggest that a baby fresh from the womb should be sexually active but about the age of 10 they should start the education that their sexual nature is a natural thing and attach no social stigma to them having sex and chastise them for wanting to be sexually active. the age of consent should be lowered in my opinion to 12 or 13.

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  • WhiteStallion

    I find it hilarious how you could explain your fantasy in that detail :P
    I think kids clothes are cute but you seem to have an obsession. If its not sexual according to you, then maybe you want a kid... Either way I agree with the other members. You need to talk to a therapist to find out why you feel such a way.
    And cut out the fantasies, focus on a real woman.

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  • Dragwagon

    I've actually asked myself if I would have that feeling towards a daughter if I had one, and the answer is I honestly can't say. One thing that is certain is this: I clearly understand how and why acting is wrong, and no matter the feelings certainly wouldn't do a thing to harm ANYONE, my own child or not.

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    • disthing

      That's reassuring! I hope you have the willpower to stick to your guns if you're ever in a challenging situation i.e. 'tempted'.

      People the world over have many strange fetishes, including ones socially embarrassing, taboo, or widely considered disgusting. Many never indulge them, except within the realm of their imaginations, either because they would break laws, they would be ostracised or simply because they are impossible to enact.

      You're part of that group, and in that respect you're not a unique case or on your own :) Just make sure you keep that red line between fantasy and reality firmly in mind.

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  • slings_and_arrows

    How is a therapist gonna help him? OP, do you think you'd have these feelings to your own daughter one day? Sorry, but am wondering.

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  • That sounds pretty fucking weird. It does seem you are a pedo. People don't choose what they think but they choose how they act. You're just going to have to carry the burden of having fantasies you cannot act on because you know what they do to chimos in jail and thats if youre lucky enough for the cops to catch you before the dad does. I suggest not having kids and trying to distract your mind with healthier thoughts.

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  • HanoiRob

    Love seeing young beautiful girls. always start ti imagine licking them (not sex) - thinking about what their pussies look like, smell like, and tatse like. YUM !!!!

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    • stickhard

      we need to talk about this I have always been turned by sweet young underage girls most times I use to have to hide my erection but I've had a few see it and smile then they put on a show like bending over with sweet little butts in the air looking to see if I'm looking which just turns me on more. Now most of the times I just let my bulge bulge and most of the time they will strut it more for me, god I know I shouldn't get aroused by them but I can't control it and it feels so good I really love when they just thrush the pussies at me it make me cum in my pants.

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      • iamre321

        Reply to my messages if you get the chance. You're pretty lucky they put on a show for you, although idk if everything you say is just a fantasy or not.

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  • RoseIsabella

    You sound like a creep and a future sex offender if ever I heard one. I honestly don't care if you can help it or not, nor do I care about your petty feelings. Just know that I'm out here, I wish harm upon you and those like you!
    >:-D
    *revs engine on big red pickup truck*

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  • Ellenna

    No doubt in my mind that you have pedophile tendencies but you're in denial. You're turned on by little girls' clothing and you fantasise games with them about that clothing.

    In itself this isn't harmful to others, but the denial is: while you're denying it you're in danger of acting on the fantasies if the occasion arises.

    I hope you never have a daughter.

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  • Fall_leaves

    Have you thought about talking to a therapist, to get a better grasp of these feelings you're having? Understanding why and what it is, will give you a better idea of how to handle it.

    It's a safe place for you to express your thoughts and feelings, without judgement or shaming, it's between you and a trained professional that will guide you through the inner workings of your mind.

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  • anti-hero

    Be safe, chop your dick off.

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  • Dragwagon

    If all you people want to do is make hurtful comments go do it towards someone who's actually hurting people maybe? Ooooh, but that just wouldn't do for a bunch of self rightious bullies, would it? And death by truck. Sounds like at least a fun way to go if one has to, but just know that I would do my level best to pull you out of it and park it up your ass! I'm not afraid of fucks like you, ya'll abusive ass motherfuckers are what tore my damn mind up in the first place! By that logic I have no obligation to even ATTEMPT to fight or change it, and I'm doing it for ME. So just to close, get raped by a beartrap you twisted ass cretens.

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  • Avant-Garde

    O_o

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  • missy911

    If you are not interested in wearing the clothes yourself, then your fantasy tips the scale towards pedophilia tendencies.

    If needs be, then for your own wellbeing you should at least explore the possibility that your are a tween cross-dresser.

    Then, there are people who have a diaper fetish and want to be treated like a baby. This fetish is most easily accessed through the professional BD/SM community.

    You may only be kidding yourself, if you believe your fantasies will not become more elaborate or require some more pronounced manifestation over time.

    One benefit of counseling is that, as time goes by, should your fantasies evolve towards seeking out places where children congregate, then you and your counselor can negotiate the ins & outs of anti-androgens and find a dose that works for you; without completely impairing your sexual faculties. Anti-androgens can ease a sense of compulsion but they don't always work for those who have acted upon their pedophilia tendencies.

    Apart from seeking counseling, if your fantasy becomes more profound and you feel the urge to act out, you might want to consider the services of a BD/SM professional. Regardless of any bodily emissions on your part, since no actual sex service is being provided; professional BD/SM sessions are legal in most jurisdictions.

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  • Dragwagon

    Yes, of COURSE I realize they wouldn't, and morally even if the odd one ever DID I'd have to get the hell outta the area no matter WHAT my... whatever this is tells me, for the very same reason I asked the question: I know it's weird and creepy as hell, I just don't know what the deal with it is exactly.

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