Is living with my father and brother making me more lesbian?

DISCLAIMER: any bigoted posts that go on like 'You BITCH it's IMPOSSIBLE to be 'more' or 'less' lesbian just based on your environment I WAS BORN THIS WAY!!1' will be deleted. I already know that your perspective exists; I have heard it before. If you want the people on is it normal to know what you think, express yourself civilly, or don't express yourself at all.

So, now that's over with...

My father and brother are slobs, benefit scroungers, refuse to work even though they are educated, experienced and able; expect the women of the house to both provide for them financially and pick up after them, including visiting family; brother doesn't pay rent even though he has been on £30k per year (at least twice as much in USD) for the past 2 years and has now chosen to live on government handouts instead because nothing but an engineer's wage is good enough for him. They leave urine on and around the toilet, semen in the shower tray and facial hair shavings in the sink for the women to sit in/stand in/otherwise tolerate and berate the women for complaining. They leave dirty plates everywhere for the women to clean up then quarrel about when their 'turn' to wash up after meals is, and leave the pans for the women to wash up anyway. If they do handyman stuff around the house three or four times a year they believe they've 'done their bit' and refuse to do anything else that's not in their own direct interests, unless it's to show a 'stupid woman' how to do something. They treat women like they know nothing in any conversation vaguely related to a specialist subject of theirs, then pick apart the women's words and invalidate their experiences when the women try to talk about their own areas of expertise (despite the fact that the woman holds an Oxford degree in it and has her profession in that same field). They treat women's emotions like stupidity or mental derangement but expect absolute hallowed reverence for their own. They make fun of women's issues and women's health and treat them like they're disgusting, stupid or dangerous. The only household appliances about which they say 'I don't know how to use this' are the washing machine, tumble drier and iron. They say it with a smirk, like it's something to be proud of.

It makes me hate men. I am bisexual but the more I live with my father and brother, the more disgust I feel at the thought of being in a relationship with and living with a man at all.

I know that my situation with my father and brother is entirely normal, if utterly disgusting. But is the fact that they make the idea of a relationship with any man an absolute turn-off, normal too?

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Comments ( 28 )
  • FromTheSouthWeirdMan

    You sound smart enough to realize they are deadbeats and normal ppl arent like them. They're losers. The proof is living off the government for 2 years. Thats for disabled ppl and single moms.

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  • Cuntsiclestick

    Your dad and brother are gross. Perhaps you should save up some money to move out of that situation?

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    • I have. I'm only talking about when I come back to visit. But thanks.

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      • Cuntsiclestick

        It's good that you're independent. Perhaps your success in life will make them realise that women aren't stupid.
        :)

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  • LloydAsher

    Does living with your brother and father make you see other women as sexually attractive?

    If not your just a tomboy female. I like tomboy females.

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  • SkullsNRoses

    I see where you’re coming from, you’re seeing the worst examples of men and this your worst possible future if you married one.

    I’ve observed a few bi women in my life “go off men” after being treated awfully by them. They’re still bi but chose to only date women. It’s your life and your decision.

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    • PleaseTalkToMe

      Yeah no wonder most women go gay! I would eradicate men in general if I was in Trumps position

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  • raisinbran

    Leave period blood on the toilet rim and in the bathtub. How about not doing what they ask?

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  • RoseIsabella

    Oh, honey, your father, and brother are disgusting pigs! I'm a somewhat more conservative Roman Catholic woman in the United States, and I 100% get what you're trying to say here! No offense, but guys like them are precisely the sort who don't deserve to have women ever lift a finger for them... ever!

    I'm not attracted to other women at all myself, but my last ex-boyfriend was a real asshole, and I haven't had any desire to date anyone in almost three years. I honestly don't see what's not to get about you query here. You are bisexual, but when you are around your father, and brother you feel a strong disgust for masculine energy, and feel more lesbian than bisexual in your orientation. As far as I'm concerned your feelings are practically self explanatory.

    I highly recommend that you spend as little time around those two pigs as you can, because they are disrespectful, and disgusting. Guys like that are precisely the type that I wouldn't get a glass of water for if I saw them crawling in the desert, because they're lazy swine, and can get it themselves.

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  • EnglishLad

    Yeah, your father and brother are sexist, toxic peices of shit who aren't representative of all men.

    The same way that irrational holier-than-thou thots who think it's OK to take advantage of men because there are no physical ways for men to reprimand them aren't representative of all women.

    Still, if you think you're more attracted to girls that's perfectly OK and you shouldn't need to justify it. Get away from your toxic family and go live your life how you see fit.

    Job done. Next question please.

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  • Orphan

    I'm so happy about my female homosexuality

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  • PleaseTalkToMe

    Doubt it

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  • Tommythecaty

    DISCLAIMER,

    Go fuck yourself 😁

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  • leggs91200

    Could we then assume that the house your father and brother keep won't be featured in "Better homes and gardens" magazine anytime soon?

    That aside -

    There is a song you might appreciate called "He's my brother in law" by Tim Wilson.

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  • megadriver

    If your dad and brother are this bad, then move out. Some men are lazy POS slobs that don't do anything around the house, or think house chores are women's work and feel like they are feminized, but that's just really scummy men.

    There is no man's work, or woman's work in the house. Everyone living in a house has to do their part to keep said house clean and functional.

    I got no problem doing dishes, or ironing my clothes, or whatever. I split chores with my girlfriend. We both cook, we both tidy up, the both of us make sure the apartment we live in feels like a home!

    One bit of advice, don't go down the man-hating feminazi route. There are shitty men, there are shitty women.
    We are all individuals with unique quirks and traits.

    I had an ex who was a slob, did nothing around the house, would throw tantrums over nothing, often around lots of people for extra drama, constantly went through my stuff, borrowed my car once without asking, scraped the front bumper, later denying she ever touched the car and stole money from me. I used to keep around 800 Euro in a drawer just in case I needed emergency cash.
    That don't mean all women are money sucking vampires now, does it?

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    • leggs91200

      Screwing with your car HAS to be a cardinal sin!

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      • megadriver

        It is, we split 3 days later, when I found out she stole money too.

        But what's curious is that your reply didn't show up in my notifications, dafuq is up with that?

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        • Cuntsiclestick

          I'm having that same problem too. XD

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  • jethro

    Well I think that you are embellishing the situation just a tad. But, in reality, there is absolutely nothing keeping you in that situation. You are free to leave and be on your own at anytime you choose. If the situation is as bad ad you say, get out and be on your own.

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  • PleaseTalkToMe

    Dude men are pigs! Why do women even date ugly, pube like bearded men is baffling! They're obviously got 0 standards! Women are kind, warm, caring and not dick thinkers and usually are more hygienic! Date women amd eradicate men 🙌

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    • megadriver

      So you would kill all men, just because some men don't bathe often enough and think mainly with their dicks?!

      You got issues. Don't date men, do your own thing, but do know there are men out there that love their girlfriends and try to provide the best life possible for their loved ones.
      And no, we don't just think with our dicks. I got the hots for Keira Knightley for example, but if I had the chance to do her, I wouldn't. Cause I am in a relationship and I have committed to my girlfriend and she has committed to me.

      But if I saw you and you said you wanted to kill me, then I shall use everything in my power to protect myself and the people I love.

      Don't be an asshole!

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      • PleaseTalkToMe

        What ever u men are all the same, dick thinkers

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        • megadriver

          And you radical feminists are all messed up in the head.

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  • SwickDinging

    Quite a few of the lesbians I know have a very dim view of men. They have had bad experiences and assume that all men are like that. So I actually get where you are coming from. If these two men who you live with and have grown up with are so shitty and gross, I can see why it would put you off them. We all develop prejudices and preferences.

    For example, I am heterosexual but I don't find muscular men attractive at all. As soon as I notice that a guy has big muscles my vagina clamps right up and I think "hm, no thanks." All of the muscular men who I have gotten to know have turned out to be total douchebags with massive egos and fewer than average brain cells, which are qualities that are very unattractive to me. Of course, in reality, this is totally unfair and judgemental - lifting lots of weights doesn't automatically make you stupid or arrogant, but because of my personal experience my subconscious makes that judgement.

    So, if you have bad personal experiences with men in general, then it will probably push you further on the lesbian path. It shouldn't do, but it does.

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  • momgetthecamera

    Do you think it makes you feel less like a woman to desire other women? It must be really stressful to be in such an environment.

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  • Somenormie

    I wouldn't say it does.

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    • Does what?

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      • Somenormie

        As in it wouldn't make you much of a lesbian if you live with your father or your brother.

        But if it is a problem then as the comment says above I would suggest the same thing to move out.

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