Is it normal to think this way?

this is common but you woman dont seem to relise that "hot" in your eyes are guys that are ripped and muscly which is WAY more harder than getting a perfect female body females perfect body shape is thin and you woman say ours is muscley so how would it be fair that we have to workout 24/7 for a body you girls want when all you have to do is watch your diet to get the body type men like
and woman are more bitchy about looks than men are so dont act as if we force you to look good i myself have told girls they look so much better when they arent trying to look good with makeup and so many other guys have said this but do they listen? no they dont so dont blame us because alot of us have given you reasons not to have to make yourself look better thats your choice completely

If you want men who take care dressing and so forth go to Europe - France and Italy in particular - yum!

Everyone has been steriotyped so much that we want a perfect woman or man, but the fact is no one is perfect.

You would be surprized a lot of men actually do care about what other people think when it comes to apperance or them selves. I don't know why. I don't see the point in giving two chits about what other people think. But no not just women have these insecurities.

the world is soooooo fucked up and men have always treated women as 3rd class citizens. its extremely sad, but one day, i promise, everyone will be equal. and life will be fine. women can be beautiful in their own skin, and be the president, men wont be looked at as rapists, gay men and women can be free to be who they are, and so on. maybe this happens after death? who knows, i know the day will come.

sorry to say but you are the type of woman the average man doesnt want to date, most men will just accept a woman for she is and want them to do the same, but good lucks would just be a bonus.

My perfect woman would be someone who didnt worry too much on how she looks(not in a trampy way) but in just that she isnt fixing her hair evey 2 secs ect

I'm a girl and I think that guys get a bad rep for that. I don't think most guys necessarily want that perfect woman. The men that are fat, ugly, and don't take care of themselves, etc, that also want the perfect woman and are loud about it, make up only a small percent of the population. For some reason, us girls listen to those fat uggos.

I'm a man and I would never expect something from someone if i know i don't posses it myself. i take care of myself and i have expectations from myself to look good in order to have them from someone else.I don't wanna be fat and look like a total bum.

Men don't care nearly as much as you think they do. Yes there are shallow men but there are also shallow women. I am a pretty good looking woman but I will not usually date a 'pretty boy'. I'm happy with an average man with a great personality, and has to be funny! I think your view on looks and the world comes from your perception. Beauty fades.

I agree. Compared to women, men hardly spend time on their appearances. We obsess over making our skin clear and tummies flat while many men don't give a fuck if they have acne or a gut.

Are, are you kidding me, im a guy and before i go out in public my hair has to be perfect!, My outfit always has to mach! I care to much!