Is it normal to think segregation would've been better

Obviously having multiple races of people living amongst each other isn't working very well. For example, I keep seeing issues between blacks and whites. Blacks suffering from racism and discrimination in a mostly white controlled society where most things are white washed and the black person is portrayed as being bad, violent, loud, dangerous and stupid. Whites crying that everything is anti-white, how the white person is portrayed as evil, volent, malicious, manipulative, and hateful, the unfair use of racial terms, apparently having unequal opportunities in life because of political correctness.

It obviously is too difficult for races to be integrated. I believe that equal segregation would've been a better idea. I believe that if different races had their own communities with real equal opportunities to succeed then things might have been easier. Key word here is "might".

Personally I'm sick and tired of fingers being pointed at my race, dumb complaints, blind perceptions, misunderstandings. Hell, everyone is being called a racist. I'll probably be called a racist. I feel like racism will never cease to exist as long as different races exist. So it doesn't make sense for all of the races to be mashed together in one place, especially under a white society. Multiple races are being held to white standards and in an attempt to make things better or more equal being offered opportunities, and whites are complaining of not having these same "advantages". So the whites are unhappy. The blacks are unhappy. Other races are unhappy. There are horrible stereotypes of every race and its turning races against each other.

So it just makes sense to me for things to be segregated.

Displaying any hate in the comments will do nothing but further prove my point. Everyone has their view and opinions on why things are unfair. So this just makes sense to me.

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  • bananaface

    I vehemently disagree. I don't think we should in any way pander to what racists want. Racists are idiots, and if we're going to act like we're not a backward society, then we need to start acting accordingly. Plus, I wonder if one "victory" for the racists would leave them satiated, or whether it would encourage them and consequently lead them to make more demands.

    I know that as someone who hasn't been a victim of racism I'm in a different position. I mean, it's fine me talking about it when I haven't been through the trauma of it myself. I can't in any way speak on behalf of victims of racism. But I still feel like this is NOT the solution. We need to stomp it out. There should be NO tolerance for this behaviour. This not only solves nothing, in my opinion, but it also sends a message that racism will be tolerated. It'd shouldn't be. What a slap in the face to the Civil Rights Movement and anyone who has fought or even lost their lives so that things wouldn't come to this.

    I'd hope we're well past that by now. In my little corner of the world, I think we are. I live in a massively integrated place. No way you could get anyone other than the idiotic minority of racists to agree with this. For that reason, it's not exactly practical. I mean, good luck trying to get people to uproot their lives, their jobs, their friendships for this! So no, I don't think it's "obviously is too difficult for races to be integrated". I have many good friends that, if we were to segregate the races, would no longer allowed to be a part of my life? Sorry, but fuck that. This would be a step in the wrong direction. Like I said, we shouldn't be pandering to an idiotic, extreme minority. It's a step in the wrong direction. I feel extremely strongly about this, and thankfully, I'm optimistic that this would never happen. At least not where I am. Sickening that we aren't past this yet, though.

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    • Thexoutcast

      In no way did I mean that it would be a good idea to segregate after we've already been integrated. I just believe things might have been better if we never integrated in the first place and were given equal opportunities.

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      • bananaface

        Nah, I disagree. I see no good reason for it or for racist behaviour. I'd hate to live in such a narrow minded world where everyone kept to "their own". We're all just people. There's no reason why everyone else should suffer just to keep the morons happy.

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        • Thexoutcast

          Seems like people are suffering anyway. Races ridicule each other. Hate crimes. Intense psychological stress. Racial conflict can affect a person dramatically. I know from experience. My thoughts about segregation isn't meant to be a racist concept. Maybe people wouldn't hate each other so much if they weren't forced to be around each other and deal with customs and behaviors that are often misunderstood. Just a thought though.

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          • dom180

            Hate didn't just go away when different races didn't have to see each other, you know. Seperate but equal can never be truly equal and I'm sure the people persecuted against during segregation hated it.

            Many studies suggest people who live in melting pots are less likely to hold racist views.

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            • It's probably the other way around - that people who hold no racist views are more likely to live in melting pots.

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    • charli.m

      This. Beautifully worded :)

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    • How's this for an idea: Everyone does what suits them. You take an integrated area, and people like me (who are hardly an "extreme minority" but actually very common) are given our inscrutable, backward wish of homogenous societies.

      What are your thoughts on such a proposal? Yes? No? Still too racist for you?

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  • anti-hero

    People love conflict. If only one race existed. People would still break off into groups for other reasons. Wealth, religion, height, favorite pizza topping, the coke vs. pepsi crowds. It is human nature.

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    • Short4Words

      Agreed. I'm not sure if it's a need to be different, or the need to feel above others, or somewhere we feel the need to fight against something or stand up for something except we only fight each other, over menial shit nonetheless.

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      • anti-hero

        All of the above, I think.

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    • Thexoutcast

      I don't think the love of conflict is just part of human nature. I think its a learned behavior to seek conflict.

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      • anti-hero

        Of course you think that, it supports your story.

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        • Thexoutcast

          Well I hope you don't think I'm making comments just to support my story. No need for tension here.

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          • anti-hero

            What is it with you in the tension. You are an odd one. I am simply talking to you. I have never met a more defensive person in my life.

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            • Thexoutcast

              I'm use to a lot of negative attention and I hate conflict. Sorry if I seem defensive.

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  • iheartu2013

    To OP:
    If you want to separate races because different races have conflicts, then you must separate different sexualities, genders, religions, democrats and republicans, and all sorts of other groups. We can't separate groups just because we have conflicts, I fight with my family, they are my race! It is impossible to separate everyone. We are made to be together. And by the way "Separate But Equal," is a joke!!! One is always better than the other if you do something like that. And by the way. There are people who are "half and half," what do you think we should do with them? What you are suggesting is impossible, and not nice!

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    • Thexoutcast

      In my opinion race just seems to cause some of the biggest conflict. I don't at all want to separate people. My thought was that it might have been a better idea if it was like that in the first place given equal opportunities. Depending on how people use those opportunities, yea one might become better than the other if they were smart about it. I'm just concerned about having pride and love in one's race and respecting people of other races. I wish people could just do that in this integrated society but its such a struggle.

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  • If multiculturalism was such a natural and truly wonderful thing, it wouldn't have to be literally forced on society.

    Your move, "anti-racists."

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    • dom180

      Most people support multi-culturalism, you dolt.

      http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2013/04/19/poll-reveals-huge-public-support-for-multiculturalism

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      • When did I say otherwise, Mr. Smart-ass?

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        • dom180

          When you said it had to be forced on society...?

          If people support it, it doesn't need to be forced on them. Therefore your question is flawed.

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          • Go back and read your reply; the objective word you used being "MOST." Therefore, your argument is flawed.

            The point being that very far from ALL people support it, yet it is essentially forced on ALL people.

            White countries? Not happening.
            White towns? Keep trying.
            White neighborhoods? Forget it.
            White schools? NO.

            "Anti-racist" is a codeword for anti-White.

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            • Thexoutcast

              Isn't "anti-racist" only a codeword for "anti-white" only if you are implying that all whites are racist?

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            • dom180

              You said "society", not "all people". But even then, you can't make every single person happy and if we decided to make you happy we'd make far more people unhappy. If you're in the tiny minority (and believe me, if you support segregation you are in the tiny minority) you can't ever expect your beliefs to become policy.

              If we gave people the freedom to choose segregation that would restrict the freedom of everyone, not just segregationists. That is because even if someone disagreed with segregation, their freedom to enter one of your single-race settlements would still be restricted. So segregation is inherently anti-freedom.

              If "anti-racism" is code for "anti-white", it is also code for "anti-black" and anti- any other race since there are no all black places either. Apart from the New Zealand rugby team.

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  • RomeoDeMontague

    Well I know this is going to sound awful to my race but I am not technically white. I prefer living with white people or people my race. White people generally do not have an issue with me and most assume I am white. I tend to often stick out with my race since I can not speak that language thanks to my speech impediment which I had from a very young age.

    Also the reason people have issues among those races is usually the race itself. People make a big deal about race. Like the "White supremacist", the "Mexican mafia" the "Black panthers" and "Asian racists". I don't want to go into every single type of Asian sorry. We have brown pride, white pride, black pride, yellow pride.

    Maybe if people took pride in being decent people and not on what colour/color everyone was we would not have any of these problems. So no segregation is not better. If we had people separated it would just mean we would have people within that race picking on them for not being brown enough or not Mexican enough, or who is rich or not rich enough.

    Also depending on what race you are you are going to get along better with certien races. Like asains generally like white people, and whites generally do not mind Hispanics, and Hispanics are less like to be hateful of white or blacks. So its not like every single race is bumping heads ALL the time. Its that people base everything they are about based on skin not actions.

    Also do you know what white standards are? White standards is being rich or upper middle class. If not you are considered white trash. So in other words you are saying people should be poor. I dont see why you think people should be poor. Who the hell wants to be poor? Its not fun! Some people dont even choose to be poor they just are. Do poor children have a choice? NO! They get whatever parents can give them and sometimes they cant even afford to feed these poor children. People who should not be having children to begin with. As a child you cant try to work up and make more money you are stuck, you cant work depending on child labour laws, and if your parents dont feed you well you cant eat.

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    • Thexoutcast

      I have no idea where that last paragraph came from. I didn't even imply that I think everyone should be poor.

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      • RomeoDeMontague

        You said we should not live up to white standards. Well according to the white stereotype white people are rich and successful. You are basing this on race and stereotypes if we go by that the asains and the whites win. Try to stop looking at colour for once. Realize that people are people not colours.

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        • Thexoutcast

          This isn't about stereotypes. Its just my opinion that separate but equal might have been a better idea. I think Malcom X had good points.

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  • wrdayjr

    Would have been better than what? Segregation of what? I may have missed something in your rant. Are you referring to a city or a country or something else?

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  • I think we as a people just have to push past it. As a black man I think segregation wouldn't have worked better due to it would have kept myself and my people down worse than it already does. At this point in life black people regardless of their shade or features can get just about the same amount of jobs as a white person. The reason I said shade or features is because it is common in the black community to believe that lighter skinned (lighter brown) and keen featured (European featured) blacks have more opportunity. This is not true any longer for the majority of people. Yes we still face racism on a daily basis but it is on a lower scale, we now more face prejudice more on a normal scale. How you are dressed, how you carry yourself, your education and where you come from. Rather than you're black there for you are out caste.

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    • Thexoutcast

      First of all, I said separate with equal opportunities. It is because things at one time were separate but not equal that made things much harder on the black community.

      And I disagree on your perception that things are getting better and its probably just because I live in the south where I can still easily get called a nigger, I can easily get denied a job (Where every employee is noticeably white) even though I am pleasant, articulate, and beyond qualified, I have 2 shades of foundation to choose from whereas there are multiple shades for pale skin, I have one disney movie to show my little cousin when I babysit here and it portrays the black female as poor, being a frog through most of the movie, and just wanting to own a restaurant, I get glared at the entire time I'm in a mostly white establishment, I get followed around and watched when in stores like I'm going to steal something, I get ignored when wanting to purchase jewelry even though I'll dress nicely and act pleasant, waiters and waitresses will avoid taking my order so I can be left there sitting for an hour as other white customers who were after me get their orders taken and get their food, I go to a restaurant with my white friends and their food comes out looking good enough for commercials while mine is burnt, nasty, and greasy, I'm told that I am the ugliest race of females, that no matter how nice I actually look, by default I'll never be as good as a white female, and I get punished to fullest extent (usually this was back in high school) for the smallest offense (Example: Skirts had to be fingertip length. My arms and fingers are long. I wore a skirt that was almost to my knees. My white teacher said I'd have to be sent home. A guy friend let me wear his jacket completely zipped up. It went down past my knees. The teacher grabbed my arm, pulled my hand down, forcing my fingers past the jacket length and sent me home. Other white girls every day were wearing skirts just covering their asses). Now I'm just ranting but I could easily continue this list. And this doesn't even include the experiences of blacks around me. Shit is still very unfair.

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  • thegypsysailor

    What really burns me up is the blacks or American Indians who come on to me with this "you owe us" bullshit.
    When slaves were being brought to the western hemisphere and when the Indians were decimated, my relatives were serfs in Russia. My family had NOTHING to do with ANY of it, nor did they profit by ANY of it.
    So why do I owe anyone anything? What right do these people have to accost me?
    As ugly as it sounds, with the child mortality rates in Africa being so high, had these people's families not been brought out of Africa, their whole line could possibly have died out and they would not exist at all. Even if they were born in Africa recently, would their life in Africa be an improvement on what their life is in the USA today? Would there be as many opportunities there as there are here to have a decent, safe and comfortable life?
    Anybody ever heard of the "child soldiers" of Africa? Of course Africa is disease free, with great medical care for even the poorest person; NOT!
    So I'm really tired of all these minority groups bemoaning a history that can't be changed and complaining about being born to a life in a country like the USA! It may not be Utopia, but it beats the shit out of being hacked to death with a machete, just because you are of a different sect or village.

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    • Thexoutcast

      You haven't done enough deep research on how Africa got that way. Also its complaints like yours that make a fine example as to why I had this thought. Too many people seek out faults in other races and turn a blind eye to their own race's evils.

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      • thegypsysailor

        How Africa got what way? Are you honestly suggesting that before the "white devils" got to Africa, it was a peaceful and poverty free continent?
        Please!

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        • Thexoutcast

          Like I said, do deeper research. And stop pointing fingers at other races. What are you accomplishing by doing that?

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          • thegypsysailor

            I'm not the one pointing fingers. It's those I mentioned in my OP that are doing the pointing.
            I personally couldn't give a shit about Africa or it's problems, certainly not enough to research anything about it. I have traveled the world and seen first hand how people live in other places.
            People have been killing people since man learned to walk upright (possibly long before that, too); we are just a pestilence on this world.
            But I owe no one anything for what happened several hundred years ago, and I wish those who think I do would shut the fuck up.

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            • Thexoutcast

              Well I hope you're satisfied with your ranting.

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  • myboyfriendsbitch

    I don't understand... I don't have these race problems you speak of.

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  • theweirdestthingsiintime

    lol ur afgot racist arn't u
    But really.
    Racism and more generally conflict exist as long as difference exists: There will be conflict as long as two people have something different about their lives, however superficial. Racism will always exist, but integration is a better solution than segregation because when two peoples are away from each other it breeds misunderstanding, distrust and eventually hatred. It allows one race to scapegoat the other. Of course the most perfect solution is extermination; of all races but one, which will ultimately lead to no racism of all. This however is flawed in that no race is inherently superior to another.

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    • Thexoutcast

      I didn't think of it like that. Good point.

      And no, I am not a racist.
      I can admit that I've had negative racial views on things before but thats not uncommon.

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  • Terence_the_viking

    how about you just seggy yourself from you pants.

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  • dude201

    What I suggest is this, we take midway island and make it an all white island. If we make it a territory of the US no one loses freedom.

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  • Shrunk

    "Whites crying that everything is anti-white" I'm guessing you're black? Or guilty-feeling white. anyway, Blacks are pretty much doing this in a lot of ways. Equal segregation, that is. Making things only for themselves, excluding other races, especially white people. I'm not complaining, just saying.

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    • Thexoutcast

      Blacks to tend to segregate themselves but its not equal. They still have a lot less than whites. Blacks feel targeted and left out of things and society so they make their own things. For example until recently, modeling shows rarely featured women of color. Even today there are still companies that only feature white models. Ethnic models have admitted to being rejected by companies like this. So black people created a once a year modeling show to feature women of color. I don't understand why anyone is concerned with that seeing as they are not hurting anyone. Have you ever wanted to participate in something that was "all black" but was rejected for being white?

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      • Shrunk

        No, because I wouldn't want to participate in anything that was "all black", especially since I'm not black. Have you ever wanted to participate in something that was "all white" but was rejected for being black? I doubt it...

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        • Thexoutcast

          I've wanted to enjoy a band at a rock concert. I literally did not see one other person of color there and I was treated horribly. I know the concert did not advertise "whites only" but it just so happened to be exclusively white from what I saw.

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          • Shrunk

            I know for a fact the same thing would happen if I go somewhere that's "all black", that's why I never go to anything like that. A lot of my high school was like that, and the few white people in my classes were "treated horribly" as well. it is not so much an issue with whites, it seems to happen whenever one is a minority, & sometimes even whites can be a minority in certain groups. People pick on who ever is different & they feel more comfortable to do so when they know they will be backed by like-minded people.

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            • Thexoutcast

              Well that I can agree with.

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  • Go get lives ye neckbeards. *Cums between two window panes**

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