Is it normal to think life in prison is wrong

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I just think being sent to prison for life is so wrong. No one should have to spend there ENTIRE life in a cage. No matter what they did. Life was meant to be Explored and seen through your eyes. Not staring at a wall and a toilet for your whole life. I dont know it might just be me but im wandering what you guys think of this. I do think people should be punished tho, i know if somebody hurt my family or something i would want them to get the worst punishment possible, but just to think out of the box, no one should be put in a cage for life

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  • [Old Memory]
    12 years ago | pl

    the murdered ones didnt deserve to be in the ground either

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    • Ihadtomakeyetanotheraccountffs
      12 years ago

      Their pain was over instantly, though. Plus what good is it having someone incarcerated for a lifetime, surely there are more humane and productive ways to deal with criminals? Some insane serial killers OFC might need to be locked up but not everyone who's broken a law.

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      • 1000yrVampireKing
        11 years ago

        Yes it is human eating someone right? It is humane to mutilate adults and children. Rape is very humane. Brilliant notion you have!

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      • coolio75650932
        11 years ago

        So your basicly saying...a time out is wrong? than my kids must be set free from the corner!*calls kids*your free to go!
        billy:YAY TIME TO MASTERBATE!
        timmy:YAY TIME TO GO F*** WITH PEOPLE'S HEADS!

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  • Thatguy777
    12 years ago

    If someone gets the death sentence, they should just kill them, not wait a long period of time..

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  • dom180
    12 years ago

    Life in prison is wrong, because anybody can change, no matter what they did. Prison itself is unhelpful and rarely necessary, the money spent keeping people alive in prison would be better spent rehabilitating them and preparing them for society, to stop them reoffending, and incentivising them to become productive and law-abiding members of society.

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    • 1000yrVampireKing
      11 years ago

      Yes and they can never bring back the people they killed. Can not tell that person you raped it never happen. That child will always live with the scares you have given them. Since these people can not change what you did. You also choice to commit the crime. So if someone willingly chooses to commit these deeds should they not be punished? Is that such an alien concept? If someone destroys your car they must pay for it. If you stay something you must repay it or give it back. I guess we could just tell the pervert down the street that raped 6 year old sally and he can say "Sorry I raped you sweety! hear is a cookie". No hard feelings dear". Yes fucking brilliant! That fixes everything.

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      • dom180
        11 years ago

        "...if someone willingly chooses to commit these deeds should they not be punished?"

        If that punishment probably won't be successful in rehabilitating them then no, they shouldn't be punished.

        "If you stay something you must repay it or give it back [sic]"

        You can't repay rape though, no matter what the punishment. You said it yourself: "these people can not change what you did". No amount of punishment or jail time can take back a rape, so why punish a rapist? Why punish a murderer either? Punishment doesn't "fix" anything any more than an apology does. Instead, work on rehabilitating them to reduce the chance of them killing or raping more people.

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        • 1000yrVampireKing
          11 years ago

          If you don't want to do the harm you would not have done it. Lashing out of anger is one thing but why do you need to commit acts of rape? You really think these people did not have another option? What about people who kill for the insurance money? How about people who drowns the kids they have because they decided one day "I don't wanta be a mom anymore I want to party, drink and do drugs". Like they had a choice. So how is rehabilitation going to fix them? You can fix crazy you cant fix an assholes since you choose to be one!

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        • 1000yrVampireKing
          11 years ago

          You can by being punished. That is kind of the point of prison. You are missing the point of locking someone up. So if someone was hurt you are going to say "Well nothing we can do about it"! They will just be let go and we hope we fixed them. If not you better go hide"! So being a good person counts for nothing. Nice knowing someone has our well being in mind. I am sorry I killed your son. I will not do it again. Ok young man you are free to go! I know you wont kill again so you may continue. That is a wonderful message that is sure to get abused. Yet you act like hurting these victims is ok?

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    • Jen118584
      12 years ago

      You can't put a murderer back on the streets in the hopes they've changed. Then what are you going to tell the relatives of the next person he kills? "Oh my bad, we thought he'd changed for sure this time."

      Honestly, I don't know what it is lately with naive people and their utopian way of thinking. The government is there for a reason, the police are there for a reason, punishment exists...for a reason. I'm not saying you shouldn't have faith in humanity, but you can't let your bleeding heart color the way you feel about the infrastructure of our society. If this whole "live and let live" ideology was really the answer to all of humanity's problems, don't you think we'd all be in a much better position right now? Murderers belong in jail, or better yet, dead. That way they can't kill those of us that aren't murderers. This is just basic biology.

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      • Quizguy
        11 years ago

        Perfectly said!

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      • dom180
        12 years ago

        There are ways of being very confident, almost completely certain, that a person has changed, using brain scans and the like. Obviously we can also put tags on them to moniter their movements, as we would for many recently released criminals. Compulsary meetings with a therapist could be arranged once the person has been released, and these could go on for many years. Any sign of problems and the criminal goes straight back inside and starts over on their sentence.

        Also, consider this. In Greenland, there is/was a system by which many criminals were kept in "open prisons". They were allowed to leave, were encouraged to get jobs and decorate their cells, were allowed to go to bars and drink. There was a curfew which they had to return to their cells in time for. The re-offending rates were less than 1%, compared to over 2/3 of criminals in the US. Obviously, there are good reasons why such a system would not work in most parts of the US, and I don't advocate this system, but to say that a system not based on punishment does not work is ignorant and arrogant. I have a link with some information about this, if anyone is interested: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/1999/sep/13/4?cat=world&type=article

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        • Jen118584
          12 years ago

          Don't get me wrong, I think of myself as being pretty liberal if I have to attach a term to myself, but I believe that becoming overly compassionate as a species would be detrimental to our well being. At what point are we just being overly optimistic fools? With 7 billion people in the world or whatever it's up to these days, we have to hold people responsible for their own actions. There are bad people out there, and it shouldn't be up to the rest of us to worry about sorting them out. We've got bigger fish to fry.

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        • Jen118584
          12 years ago

          The Greenland example is intriguing in principle, but would you want someone who murdered someone you loved to be out partying at bars? I sure as hell wouldn't.

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        • Jen118584
          12 years ago

          That all costs taxpayer money. Lots of it. I can think of better ways to spend our money rather than trying to rehabilitate murderers. Sure, everyone makes mistakes but...you kill another person, you kinda blew it, there's not really any going back from that. I mean I see your point of view, and it would be great if we could be as helpful a society as possible, but we simply can't afford to help everyone with every problem. People need to take some personal responsibility.

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    • FocoUS
      12 years ago

      People don't change as easily as you think. In fact most people never change and the second they get out the commit crimes again. I agree prisons burn through money but I think it's because it's not managed well. Rehabilitating everyone would cost even more.

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      • dom180
        12 years ago

        Even so, it isn't their fault if they can't change, it's society's fault that they're there in the first place. It is worth the money to keep them alive, if we kill them we are no better than the murderers. The arguement that it works as a deterent to potential criminals is a myth.

        Rehab could be made much cheaper per person if it was rolled out nationwide and well budgeted, and it could save a lot of time in prison, reducing prison over-population, and every person it saves is really worth the money. You can't put a price on human life, even a murderer's life.

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        • FocoUS
          12 years ago

          Fixing society fixes all problems doesn't it? It's also so much easier to blame society than the criminal him/herself. That's why it's the toughest problem to fix. But until we reach utopia I prison seems like a fine solution to me.

          "You can't put a price on a human life."
          That's a nice quote.

          How can rehab be cheaper than prison when it requires one on one patient/doctor time to be guaranteed successful?

          How do you define human? And at what point is a person less than human? Killing a 3 year old doesn't seem human to me.

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          • dom180
            12 years ago

            I would say that we are all human beings, and we all deserve human rights, no matter what we have done or how many people we have violated the rights of.

            When I talk about rehab being cheaper, I am not suggesting that rehab could be cheaper than prison, but it could be much cheaper than it is, simply because time in rehab would be much less than time behind bars. There is no reason why a murderer could not be "cured" in, say, 2 years, compared to over 20 in prison.

            Neither am I suggesting that rehab would be appropriate in all cases, but even the ones who cannot be changed should be treated with pity rather than punishment, which often does little to deter re-offenders.

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  • Soulfire45
    12 years ago

    Prison is like school, the government makes you go, you sit around all day, you eat what they give you and go outside when they tell you to. I could go on and on. ( seventh grade sucks)

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  • [Old Memory]
    12 years ago

    The man who punishes severely, punishes least. It's good that our laws are so "harsh".

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  • FocoUS
    12 years ago

    Prisons aren't merely just a form of punishment, it's a way to keep dangerous criminals away from the public. I wouldn't feel very safe if there weren't any prisons.

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  • tori
    12 years ago

    I dont give a crap about a person who has been given a life sentence for murder. So what if they changed. If I had a loved one murdered they wouldn't be able to change back to living. It shouldn't take years to execute them. Put them naked in a rubber room and let the families of the victim do as they please with them.

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  • [Old Memory]
    12 years ago

    Mmmm...

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  • Solophonic
    12 years ago

    It's a deserving solution. If a murderer got 25 years in a federal sphincter-stretching prison, he would not come out the other side well adjusted and able to assimilate into society. I don't know if you've ever met someone who has spent a significant portion of their lives in jail, but I can tell you from the experience of meeting someone who has been in for seven years that the prison state of mind does not go away. They are always on edge and mentally prepared to get violent at any second, even when the situation does not call for it.

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  • gloryholeflasher
    8 years ago

    In my opinion violent repeat offenders like pedophiles, rapists and murderers should be executed or locked up for life, not neccessarily as a punishment, but to protect society so they can't ever be free to do those horrible things again.
    Otherwise, I think our judicial system is way too harsh. The US has 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prisoners. The penal system is a big money maker!

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  • Aewe101
    11 years ago

    I feel the same, I feel like no one should have the right to lock someone away forever. But than on the other hand I feel like yes they should be punished, but I'm not sure how Or what should be done to them 0_0 it's so confusing because I can't make up my mind, ughhh that's what happens when you have to much sympathy for people who do wrong things.

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  • 1000yrVampireKing
    11 years ago

    I guess we just can shrug our shoulders and tell the police to go away. After all we all deserve to have out children raped, every wife deserves to be tortured and killing is not a big deal to you. I guess according to your logic this is ok. I will just say that most people do not want to live in the kind of world you are imagining.

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  • 1000yrVampireKing
    11 years ago

    This is to the op. Those kids slaughtered under the chicken coop did not deserve to die but in your opinion they did. Those girls who were runaway were manipulated by a 40 year old maniac with a nazi symbol on his forehead to kill all those people(without regret). Those little girls and boys ranging age 11=17 were shipped on boats and raped coast to coast. That girl who was kidnapped and trapped in a house for years deserved to get raped day after day right? Did she have it coming? You are one fucked up person if you think these people deserved this. It seems you will all jump to defend the attacker yet what of the mutilated victim? Yes rape a 6 year old it is no big deal. I guess they had it coming. DID YOU EVER THINK OF THAT? DID YOU THINK OF THESE PEOPLE! By the way these are real cases I described.

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  • Pisslan616
    12 years ago

    I don't know if it's always a case of punishing the murderer. If the person is dangerous then isolating that person from the rest of society seems like s good idea.

    I don't know if there is a perfect solution to the problem this problem.

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  • joybird
    12 years ago

    Does anyone know any criminals?

    Maybe the prison services could ask them what punishment do they believe would stop them re-offending?

    There's not point in prisons if the homeless have to commit crimes just to go to jail so that they can have clean clothes, a roof over their head and food every day!

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  • shade_ilmaendu
    12 years ago

    Honestly, some people can change. But a sociopath can never really recover, it's not something that goes away. As soon as those rapists and murderers get out of jail, they go right back to doing the same thing. Some people need to be put down to protect the innocents.

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  • AngAnders112
    12 years ago

    You don't get it, do you???

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  • Ono
    12 years ago

    The state killing people is never the solution, no matter what they did. You can judge a society on the way they treat those at the bottom, the disabled, the homeless and yes the incarcerated. It's a sad reflection of the fucked up world we live in that so many seem ready to remove the life of someone else in an instant.

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  • -WhySoSerious-
    12 years ago

    Oh wow, you really haven't felt much sympathy for the ones who got murdered. Think of them before you think of criminals of humanity.

    I think some murderers should be killed. They do not deserve to live on this planet when they have betrayed human beings.

    I came to this conclusion because I have seen messed up things. If you had seen what I saw, you would definitely change your mind about life in prison or even the capital punishment.

    Plus, imagine if murderers didn't get life or had something nice to do as murderers. What type of example do you want to set to the rest of the people? That human blood is not worth much?

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  • Jessie735513
    12 years ago

    I'm sorry--but if someone takes away an innocent person's rights (by killing) then they don't deserve any rights themselves. I think putting them in a cage is quite nice to be honest-they get food, water, excersise...

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  • [Old Memory]
    12 years ago

    Where do you suggest they go?

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  • piman
    12 years ago

    Not everyone is capable of change. They deserve punishment if they did something evil. But the death sentence should only be used when the person has killed multiple people.

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  • KatieLiz
    12 years ago

    I imagine if someone killed your entire family you'd feel differently

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  • alv1592
    12 years ago

    To be honest, I think murderers should get put to death immediately rather than put in the cell. They'll go to hell, right? So in a way I agree with OP.

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    • [Old Memory]
      12 years ago

      I agree. Murderers should die. Fucking wasting everyones money. Then we wonder why the country is in depth and can't pay off anything. I can go on forever on how things should be but it's never gonna happen so I'll stop wasting my finger energy and go play some PS3.

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  • joybird
    12 years ago

    I'm sure a lot of crimes are committed by teenagers who have had no guidance and who later mature enough to regret them. Maybe there should be more public humiliation with a short sharp shock!? I believe that the Isle of Man in the UK still has the birch if they deserve a good whipping or the choice of a huge fine.

    Nothing we suggest would ever become law coz of do-gooders and bloody human rights campaigners, which I think are intended for dictatorships not really for civilised societies.

    So here's what I'd like to suggest ;o)

    Minor crimes like stealing, they could have a finger cut off each time ;o)

    Maybe paedos or rapists could have it tattooed across their faces so the public would always know to avoid them. These are supposed to be the 2 categories they can't truly rehabilitate.

    It's a huge dilemma but certainly for those who want to die, I'd let them go rather than keep them locked up for years and years.

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