Is it normal to start noticing sexism?

Now I am 19, and I have never in my life thought any of the boys I grew up with were sexist. But something inside me has gotten angry, the amount of kitchen jokes I hear daily, and sandwich jokes I am starting to doubt they're jokes.

I usually laugh but in the past week I am so angry because every man says it and I know some men who truly believe that. Is it really a joke or are them all fantasizing deep inside we'll suck their dicks and bring them a sandwich while they play Call of Duty? I was watching ABC Kids because there was nothing else on and there was a lot of points of sexism in the cartoons, like this girl couldn't get on the softball team just because she is a girl, and the show after that was a girl who couldn't run class president because she's a girl. I thought we evolved in our society and the boys I grew up with don't have that frame of mind, I didn't think I'd get so sensitive about it but I was shaking with rage today, and I am not even a feminist.

I know I am just stereotyping but I am just talking about the jokes, not saying every man is like this but majority, and I know I don't have to be a feminist to feel underpowered.

Voting Results
85% Normal
Based on 88 votes (75 yes)
Help us keep this site organized and clean. Thanks!
[ Report Post ]
Comments ( 22 )
  • ladyday

    Hatred stems from these "jokes". It's the same thing as telling racist jokes. Sure, it seems like harmless fun at first.. but after a while, if you share enough of them, you start to believe them. I've seen it happen. "Make me a sandwich" jokes go hand in hand with "all black people steal" jokes. It's the same thing.

    You sound like you have a lovely fresh mind. You SHOULD be angry. You have every right to be angry. Sexism is alive and thriving my friend and the only way to stop it is to get angry at the idiots who are spreading it. Make them feel bad.

    Check out "The Beauty Myth" by Naomi Wolf. She is a genius author and I think this book is right up your alley. :)

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • idon'tknow

    I never really got angry about sexism until I started getting harassed on a daily basis by classmates, older high school boys, and worst of all, grown men. I sprouted a pair of breasts (like any other teenage girl), and all of a sudden, I'd get guys shouting at me when I walked home in my all-concealing winter coat. I'd have grown MEN shouting "take it off, baby!", at a 14-year-old! It scared me to have grown men shouting at me. It's absolutely disgusting, and it's not a joke. I still avoid certain streets because of the amount of piggish men who hang around. I never had to deal with sexism as a kid, and it angered me that I had to deal with it just because I'd reached puberty, and was now open game. This might be the 21st century, but there's still a lot of people with NO respect. I also heard Paki and n***** jokes almost everyday at my school, and I think those are also disgusting. Degrading someone is not a joke. I don't blame you for being angry - funny that you don't notice those things when you're younger, but it suddenly hits you that there are a lot of bigots around.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • seasons_on_mars

    I'm a guy and I hate it when people are sexist! Whenever one of my friends says something to stereotype girls (like how they can cook) or boys (like how they are violent) I get so angry. I do notice there is a lot of female sexism and I try to tell people that it's wrong and you can't say that a whole gender is like that. I am totally on your side for this :)

    Comment Hidden ( show )
      -
    • :)

      Comment Hidden ( show )
  • I know it's a joke, I stated that. It has just become a bothersome to me because I found out some people my age who actually really hate women and they really think like that even with their girlfriends. We didn't grow up in a society where this was acceptable so why did they change over the years. We don't make fun of Negro's in cotton fields, we just make jokes of their hate crimes because slavery isn't funny and there isn't much difference between thinking a woman belongs in a kitchen and a black man in a cotton field.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • TheGasManCometh

    I'm a man, and like most of the rest, I didn't think sexism was such a problem - I thought it was mainly a thing of the past, and that women now had equal rights and opportunities. But then I discovered how wrong I was - sexism is still a HUGE problem, and it seems to be getting worse, not better!

    It now makes me as mad as it makes you, to the extent that I'm now very cautious about accepting people as friends, and going to places where attitudes are likely to be sexist. Most of my friends are now gay men or straight women - not to say that these people can't be just as bad, but they tend not to be.

    Gender shouldn't matter! People like to be told how to act, and the easiest 'clubs' to get into are the gender clubs - all you have to do is be male, or female. But to be approved of by fellow members, you need to act and think in a certain way - so men should like sport (particularly football), never cry, and (apparently) treat women like shit. Women have similar club rules, that are just as pathetic.

    Well, it sucks - and I for one have opted out of the man-club. I can't stand football, I treat women as equals, and I cry - but I don't cry like a baby, I cry like a human being.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • I started noticing all these things a few years ago. They make me pissed off. But there are things that happen to men that are sexist too. So it's not just men. Also, a lot of the girls who hear the sexist jokes just laugh, which makes a light bulb in the men's head go "it's okay to say these things, because they don't offend anyone". I believe that the whole world should just start thinking of everyone as the same. So you're normal :)

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • nanook026

    I understand how you feel. Sometimes it really scares me, because it seems like people really don't care any more about issues like racism and sexism, when they're so important.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • Vyzr

    Sexism is suckish. I hate it when my mom says stuff like "you cant get scars like boys, its different for girls" Im guessing shes stupid because i dont care if i have not said that enough. I like to tell my mom to get back in the kitchen and tell my dad to get back in the kitchen as well, but when they say its different for me cuz im a girl, i wanna push em' down the stairs!

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • danyboy931

    women are God`s greatest creation :)
    Don`t let them dumb and immature jokes get you down ;)
    I`m a guy and know for a fact that those kinda guys usually have a poor understanding of common sense and morality as in respect and treating people around you (also those kinda guys usually get laid rare :D haha)
    You should clearly not hang out with guys like that, because there lots of nicer people who know that a girl should be treated with respect.
    So.... stick around with intelligent people who don`t have distorted views on morals and behavior, but get yourself what you deserve ;)
    PS: Always tell them that that`s just not right, otherwise they don`t get it, because obviously they aren`t smart enough to understand by themselves.
    Pisses me off, too * I once punched a friend in the face for saying a sexist joke in front of my girl * :)

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • dappled

    You make a good point. What starts as a joke, becomes a stereotype. What becomes a stereotype, becomes an attitude. What becomes an attitude becomes an accepted truth. What becomes an accepted truth becomes an acknowledged truth.

    Every gender or race should accept joking against them, but nothing more than joking.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • VioletTrees

    You're all good. Don't listen to people saying that you're being too sensitive or that you need to lighten up. A lot of awful, sexist stuff is done to women, and you are allowed to be angry about it.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • Sabaky

    All people that said no are men sexist!!

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • Women accept being #2

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • yomommabeezugly

    women want to be equal and independent because it's natural for them to want since they're people too. i don't believe that being a woman means you only make sammiches and have sex. but i say that if women want equal rights and equal treatment, then they should get it... fully. because it wouldn't be equal if a man only let them vote and get jobs, maybe they shouldn't make a big deal about viloence towards women. girls are always saying that they can beat up any guy and they're tough. maybe women should be forced to join the draft once they reinstate it. but the cleaning and the cooking and stuff is a woman's job, and it was originally intended to be so. im not trying to be sexist, but it's kinda hard not to when there are so many hypocritical women out there.
    honestly, women as a whole are inferior...
    now im not saying every woman is, but most let their strange female brains cloud their judgement and common sense.
    but i think the world would definitely be a terrible place without women. cuz we need the women for some things. and im not just talking about sex and sammiches and things like that.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
      -
    • You can say exactly the same about a man.

      I don't believe, and many women don't believe in hitting men because they "can't" hit us back. In fact if I hit a man I'd expect them to knock me out. I've had n-provoked abuse from males before and I can understand why women don't want that. You've got a terrible outlook on women as a whole.

      If you think sending women to war is equal, then have some female representatives so we're not fixing up a man's mistake.

      Comment Hidden ( show )
  • timebobbu

    fetch me a sammich

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • proballer

    Sexism if for girls and gays.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • xino00

    all women commenting should go MAKE ME A SANDWICH!
    from the KITCHEN!

    lol:P

    it's a joke man!

    Comment Hidden ( show )
      -
    • VioletTrees

      The thing with "get in the kitchen" and "make me a sandwich" jokes is that they're not funny. Even if you thought they were funny to begin with, they've been said so much that they're not anymore.

      As a woman, I don't find those jokes funny at all, mostly because they're constantly being thrown at me with the expectation that I'll laugh at how original and offensive they are. Sometimes they're meant as "can you believe I said something so shocking and awful" type jokes, but when you hear them all the time, that stops being funny really fast. Also, people say them to women on the internet a lot, and it's not funny when you can't mention your gender without getting a "make me a sandwich" comment. When you're discussing something serious (people often bring this out in discussions about sexism and gender issues), these jokes derail the discussion. It's not nice to make fun of somebody's gender when they're trying to have a serious conversation. When women take offence at this, people making the jokes often respond by saying "lighten up, it's just a joke!", as if it's impossible for something to be both legitimately offensive and a joke.

      These jokes are sexist. It doesn't matter if they're saying them "ironically", or if they don't REALLY think that women should be in the kitchen. When you say "Calm down, it's just a joke!" or "you have no sense of humour!", you're saying "My shitty, overused joke is more important than what you have to say".

      I wouldn't have as much of a problem with these jokes if they weren't used to silence people and derail conversations, but they are. They make women feel unwelcome in social circles and at events (for example, I know women who don't attend comic conventions anymore, because they're sick of not being taken seriously as people). It's not funny to have somebody turn my gender into a joke, it's upsetting and humiliating.

      Just stop it. It's not clever, and it's not your job to tell women what we should be offended by.

      Comment Hidden ( show )
  • TheGasManCometh

    Now go make me a sandwich.

    Comment Hidden ( show )
  • sloppy_seconds

    wouldn't expect a woman to understand

    Comment Hidden ( show )