Is it normal to poison oneself to build strength and immunity?

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I personally think it's great to "poison" oneself with exposure an array of substances, from bacteria to smoke to venom and so on. If not to build a tolerance or an immunity, then to accustom oneself to being exposed to a dangerous thing so as to be more calm about it in an emergency.

I try to poison myself to some extent multiple times a day. I have not been sick in so long I can't even remember it!! Everyone around me is so sickly and fearful but not me.

Is it normal to use what most people think of as dangerous and scary as a sort of immunization or shield to make oneself super-human almost?

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  • flutterhigh
    11 years ago | pl

    Normal.

    I smoke cigarettes so that I'll build up enough smoke immunity until I can finally smoke without being worried about the smoking dangers of smoking smoke.

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    • PumpkinKate
      11 years ago

      This is what real smokers do. *fist-bump*

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      • shuggy-chan
        11 years ago

        i miss you kate.........

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      11 years ago

      Ha-ha. If you noticed, I also said I expose myself to dangerous things to be calm in an emergency, obviously you can't build an immunity to certain things but you can expose yourself to things so you know not to panic-so that you know yes, it's uncomfortable but it's not going to kill you, so you can perform in an emergency.

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      • JustinBiebsFan#1
        11 years ago

        try chugging bleach

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      • NeuroNeptunian
        11 years ago

        Ha-ha. If you've noticed, your question was "Is it normal to poisen oneself to build strength and immunity", and now you're going back and saying that you can't build immunity from exposure to poisen ha-ha self contradiction is a crazy thing ha-ha SPEED RACER.

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        • Anonymous Post Author
          11 years ago

          Ha ha, read the description, ha ha! And I quote, and you may reference above for thineself:

          "I personally think it's great to "poison" oneself with exposure an array of substances, from bacteria to smoke to venom and so on. If not to build a tolerance or an immunity, then to accustom oneself to being exposed to a dangerous thing so as to be more calm about it in an emergency."

          Strength physically and mentally was implied, but apparently not received by readers. Ha ha! The whole concept of staying calm in an emergency or in unsavory conditions was also apparently unnoticed! Ha ha!

          Ha ha, I can only put so much in the title, as the space is limited! Ha ha! That's why I furthered my explanation in the description. I can't help people's poor reading comprehension. Next poll, I promise to write it real slow like and cover all the bases.

          I only said there's obviously SOME things you cannot become immune to, as this person above made a joke about becoming immune to smoke...well, duh. BUT I can expose myself to smoke to prepare myself to perform if there was a fire or a riot with tear gas!! Ha ha!! Strength!! Ha ha!! The Army puts you in a pitch dark gas chamber filled with tear gas and has you remove your gas mask. Do you know why? 1. To show you your gas mask works!! So you trust it in war. and 2. To toughen you up and have you think and not panic when shit gets rough.

          Fuck me running, I can't catch a break! Ha ha!

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          • NeuroNeptunian
            11 years ago

            Seriously, how would writing it "slow-like" help you any unless you have a reading comprehension problem yourself?

            You're on this website speaking to an array of readers here. It is not a coincidence of reading comprehension abilities that we all took your post the way we did. If you were as intelligent as you are trying to sound, you would understand that it is more than likely YOUR writing and articulation abiltiies that contributed to the confusion, dumbass.

            How will exposure to the smoke prepare you for performance during a fire, though? Are you using Army methods? Because if not, I'm telling you, self-desensitization is not effective. Wrap your awesome reading comprehension skills around that.

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            • Anonymous Post Author
              11 years ago

              How does exposure to smoke prepare you for a fire? Seriously??? You really don't get it?

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  • crimson_mamba
    11 years ago

    sorry to burst your bubble kid but bacteria are the ultimate super beings as far as mutating and surviving the HARSHEST conditions

    we did this in lab we grew bacteria on a petri dish then threw in there a bunch of poisons/toxins known to kill them, and amazingly, some survived and continued to grow over the toxins. they mutated rapidly. Results were just awesome.

    They have been doing this for BILLIONS of years and would wipe out humnanity were it not for all these pesitices/chemicals/vaccine precautions we take

    NO its not normal to expose oneself to poisons just to see how "great" one is, which were really not as humans were just complex, but very weak nonetheless, we've just protected ourselves.

    Hey you should be careful though, the effects can take months or years to show. Just because you ingest poison now and nothing happens doesnt mean it wont have a cumulative effect/complication down the line

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  • Darkoil
    11 years ago

    Sorry but your immune system doesn't exactly work like that.

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  • Xena
    11 years ago

    I hope to God no one ever takes your advice. No its not good to poison yourself. Unless you are suicidal and your goal is death. Idiot.

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  • sega31098
    11 years ago

    Umm, I don't think it works that way.

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  • flutterhigh
    11 years ago

    In all honesty, I think people might be confused as to how the immune system works.

    The human body is surprisingly resilient, and the mechanism by which we prevent disease has always fascinated me. It's sort of a microcosm of combat. A rough rundown: the symptoms of sickness that we usually associate with terrible sensations (fever, soreness, swelling) are actually our bodies' way of directing white blood cells to the site of invasion, which are the specialized infantry of the body that are remarkably similar to single-celled organisms. They send out antibodies as "scouts" that tag the invader microbes and proceed to attack and kill them. Most importantly, they have the ability to identify and remember pathogens they've encountered - increasing their efficiency in any subsequent attacks. What's even more extraordinary about this is that it can (on specific occasions) lead to a full genetic recombination, meaning that such immunities will be passed down to offspring.

    Drinking shots of bleach daily is not a good idea. But neither is coddling your body in fear of ruining your sheen. Find a happy medium between OP's dangerous venom-drinking and the children of overprotective moms and you'll be just fine.

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  • NerdyChickFTW
    11 years ago

    I've always been curious about trying that with snake venom..

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  • Angel_in_a_Glass_Dress
    11 years ago

    Iocane powder?

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    • Xena
      11 years ago

      WTF is this Princess Bride?

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      • Angel_in_a_Glass_Dress
        11 years ago

        Someone who doesn't like the movie?

        INCONCEIVABLE!

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      11 years ago

      LOL cool reference! 10 points for you!!

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  • Ono
    11 years ago

    I can see what you're trying to do, I'm not sure it's all as healthy as you think, but maybe not deserving the whack you seem to have got.

    Exposure to bacteria is often a good thing. I cringe when I see parents preventing their kids from playing anywhere 'dirty' and sterilizing their homes when both end up having worse consequences than incidental exposure.

    Exposure to chemicals is a bit different because though may not see the effects of it, it doesn't mean it's not doing you irreversible harm, such as arsenic does (which I know you already covered).

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  • Avant-Garde
    11 years ago

    What makes you stronger is your immune system. Poisoning yourself will only make you sicker and eventually die. You're shortening your life. If you live in america, the food is already being "poisoned" from use of GMOs. To be healthy, it's best to eat 100% organic food or grow your own. You should probably see a doctor so you can get tested for any illnesses brought on by your experimentation.

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    • Ono
      11 years ago

      Is there any actual evidence that GM food 'poisons' you? I've read comments here or there it can, but I've never actually heard of an actual instance of it happening.

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      • Avant-Garde
        11 years ago

        http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/01/the-very-real-danger-of-genetically-modified-foods/251051/

        http://www.naturalnews.com/035734_GMOs_foods_dangers.html

        http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/nutrition/genetically-modified-foods

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94d-KVorSHM

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  • NeuroNeptunian
    11 years ago

    That's pretty dumb.
    Exposure to toxic chemicals is one of the leading causes of cancer.
    You might actually be killing yourself and not knowing it.
    De-sensitisation isn't as cut and dried as many people think that it is.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      11 years ago

      Or I may have found the cure to cancer and didn't even know it.

      I think people took the question wrong. They see immune and think only of the body's immune system. There was other forms of immunity implied, I used the words tolerance and accustom also. I put poison in quotes to show I mean something toxic that ranges from the naturally toxic to chemically toxic through the psychologically toxic (scary, I mean in this instance) and anything in between or any combination of toxicity (scary AND physically toxic, for example).

      Expose doesn't mean consume, all the time. At my job I am exposed to molten hot stuff and get burnt a lot and I am used to it and don't flinch like most people would. That doesn't mean I consume fire, it falls on me, it's all around me everywhere, I am EXPOSED to it. I have conquered fire and burns psychologically as I do not fear it and can perform in danger. No, I don't think I can burn to a crisp and live, let me clarify, I just mean I can perform well and make good decisions and not panic around fire. No, I don't think you can become immune to smoke physically. Come on. I also research things before exposing myself to them if possible (meaning I can't research exactly what bacteria I may be exposing myself to SOMETIMES because I can't fucking see it or whatever). I wouldn't consume a chemical for no benefit, that's just dumb. We know that some things are deadly period, so obviously I don't bother with those things. I'm not going to eat arsenic, I think that's been thoroughly tested to my satisfaction, I see no benefit in trying to 'beat' arsenic. I did however breathe in a bit of zinc vapor, to know the smell, taste and feeling. I find things like that handy to know.

      Contrary to what you may have gathered from your poor understanding of my post (whether that's my fault or yours), I am not a retard. I thought it was implied, and common sense that I only did such things if there was a benefit. I see physical and psychological strength as a benefit, if I can gain more and more of it I will. This is just one way I do it. I also value my leadership abilities in a crisis, and feel well-prepared for many emergency situations. If that's a bad thing, then OK. If there wasn't people like me willing to risk their ass for others then that would suck.

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      • NeuroNeptunian
        11 years ago

        I'll say it again.

        That's pretty dumb.

        Exposure to toxic chemicals causes cancer. Do you think that people that worked with asbestos or lived in homes with asbestos CONSUMED the asbestos? You don't have to literally consume something for it to enter your body. If that were the case, then cancer would only be an issue for people who consume raw materials and smoke. You think people who get cancer from sun exposure or radiation consumed it?

        "I personally think it's great to "poison" oneself with exposure an array of substances, from bacteria to smoke to venom and so on. " ("exposure an array of substances"? You're giving me shit about my reading comprehension skills but you're writing isn't exactly A+ material, pal).
        "I try to poison myself to some extent multiple times a day. I have not been sick in so long I can't even remember it!! Everyone around me is so sickly and fearful but not me."
        You said you're trying to poisen yourself. Now you're saying that you know that poisening yourself is pointless because there are some things you can't be immune to.

        And there you were above hand talking about my reading comprehension skills. That is what you said. "I try to poisen myself..." ""I personally think it's great to "poison" oneself with exposure an array of substances, from bacteria to smoke to venom and so on. ". And now you're saying "no no no, I only EXPOSE myself, I am not stupid enough to feed myself things that I could never be immune to". Because "poisening" yourself with venom and toxic chemicals is not the same thing as feeding yourself something that you're not immune to.

        Come on, guy.
        And I will say it only one more time.
        Self-desensitization is a futile effort, especially the way you're doing it.

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        • Anonymous Post Author
          11 years ago

          Yes, exactly, expose has several meanings. If only you could've realized that at first! Eat, touch, smell, see, all that jazz.

          I already explained, "poison" meant physically AND psychologically. I failed to make that crystal clear in the original post, and I take responsibility for that. However I DID explain it in the reply so, alrighty then.

          Right, I said sickly AND fearful....meaning sickly AND fearful. Physically sickly (ill a lot) and FEARFUL meaning a psychological weakness or "illness", if you will.

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          • NeuroNeptunian
            11 years ago

            But no matter how much you try to make yourself psychologically immune to it, physically is a different story. If you knew jack shit about psychology you would know that physical threats against your life provoke a response in your nervous system, something that, unless you were a SEAL, a seasoned Marine, or another rescue worker that has endured years of psychological training, you have little to no control over. This isn't the kind of shit you learn on your own.

            That's the key word. TRAINING. Not simply exposure but TRAINING. DISCIPLINE. Simple exposure to it is not enough, you must be taught and disciplined over the course of many years. And some people don't even require training to get their nervous system to such a low level of arousal.

            I keep trying to tell you that simple self-desensitization won't help you when the real deal comes along. If only you could have realized that!You can shove candles up your ass all night long but if you ever get raped in the ass, you damn sure won't be acting like "good thing I shoved those candles up my ass or this would scare the fuck out of me!".

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            • Anonymous Post Author
              11 years ago

              I agree that some simple self-desensitization doesn't do any (or much) good. I never mentioned my methods or training though. I am not a retard. I am a veteran of the Army and I work and volunteer in dangerous fields.. I DO know what I'm doing. Forgive me for not being more descriptive, I did not think people would go the direction they went with my post. I didn't think my methods or integrity would come under fire, nor should they have, honestly. I didn't think I'd have to detail every little thing I do. All I wanted to accomplish was to see who else was out there like me, and what keeps the rest of you guys who aren't like me from experimenting or getting involved. That's it!!

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          • NeuroNeptunian
            11 years ago

            Just to clarify for you and your almighty reading comprehension skills.

            Consume
            verb (used with object)
            1. to destroy or expend by use; use up.
            2. to eat or drink up; devour.
            3. to destroy, as by decomposition or burning: Fire consumed the forest.
            4. to spend (money, time, etc.) wastefully.
            5. to absorb; engross: consumed with curiosity.
            verb (used without object)
            6. to undergo destruction; waste away.
            7. to use or use up consumer goods.

            Consumption
            noun
            1. the act of consuming, as by use, decay, or destruction.
            2. the amount consumed: the high consumption of gasoline.
            3. Economics . the using up of goods and services having an exchangeable value.
            4. Pathology .
            a. Older Use . tuberculosis of the lungs.
            b. progressive wasting of the body.

            Expose
            verb (used with object), ex·posed, ex·pos·ing.
            1. to lay open to danger, attack, harm, etc.: to expose soldiers to gunfire; to expose one's character to attack.
            2. to lay open to something specified: to expose oneself to the influence of bad companions.
            3. to uncover or bare to the air, cold, etc.: to expose one's head to the rain.
            4. to present to view; exhibit; display: The storekeeper exposed his wares.
            5. to make known, disclose, or reveal (intentions, secrets, etc.).

            Exposure
            noun
            1. the act of exposing.
            2. the fact or state of being exposed.
            3. disclosure, as of something private or secret: the exposure of their invasion plans.
            4. an act or instance of revealing or unmasking, as an impostor, crime, or fraud: the exposure of graft and corruption.
            5. presentation to view, especially in an open or public manner: His exposure of his anger shocked the company.

            Those are the meanings of expose and consume. They are not synonyms. They don't mean the same thing.
            I'd be interested in hearing where you got YOUR definition of exposure.

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  • [Old Memory]
    11 years ago

    I have a natural good immune system. I haven't been ill since about ten years ago.

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    • thinkingaboutit
      11 years ago

      Average people have extraordinary immune capacities. You probably have been sick without knowing it. That's what I'm betting on. Its really not going to be pretty once you do get a hefty infection. Just saying.

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  • iEatZombies_
    11 years ago

    You should really be careful about that.. I'm not going to say don't do it, because you obviously made your choice, but these things are never what they appear. So if you should continue, please do as little as possible. Nature does work work better with us than chemicals, but it can also work a hell of a lot worse than you could imagine.

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