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I've always admired the French. They are people of such refined values and cultivated senses. They really know how to appreciated fine living, and uphold such elegant tastes. What do you guys think?
| It's normal. | 18 | |
| It's normal. I admire the French too. | 24 | |
| It's not normal. | 12 | |
| I don't like the French at all. | 16 |
I like France and the French. As next door neighbours, we've squabbled for longer than many countries have existed but I'd still call it sibling rivalry.
As for cowardice? It's very easy for us (as an island) and other countries who don't have a land border with Germany to judge them for what happened when the Nazis started piling over the border and occupying their country. All France tried for was an armistice. Do we also judge six million Jews for their cowardice in allowing themselves to be murdered? The sooner we stop making frankly racist slurs on whole countries about what a small group of politicians decided in a world war, the better.
I should probably read it again before I give any say on it, but I was googling and came across 'Is the holocaust a Hoax?' Interesting stuff. I always felt the number of 6 million was a bit high. Acording to people who know what they are talking about, it would have taken 68 years to kill that many people, and that the supposed gas chambers really weren't gas chambers. I need to read it again, but it was interesting weather its true or not, I'm not sure yet.
I'm quite interested in the psychology of Holocaust deniers. It seems such a strange standpoint to have and I can't understand what people have to gain. It's something I know about as a side-issue because I have a huge interest in rocketry (and later, the space programmes). I've read a lot about what went on at V2 production facilities like Mittelwerk.
But I've also seen how holocaust deniers justify things. 1.5 million are said to have lost their lives just at Auschwitz-Birkenau. It seems an astonishing number for a single forced labour camp. They say up to 6000 people per day lost their lives, which - looking at the "facilities" seems entirely feasible. Doing the maths, this means 1.5 million people could be executed in just 250 days and this doesn't count deaths from starvation, typhoid, overwork, and natural causes. It's with the heaviest of hearts that I see the numbers do add up.
Holocaust deniers talk about there being no bodies autopsied, conveniently forgetting that dealing with that number of corpses is possible in one way only. Cremation. And it's difficult to autopsy ashes.
It's horrific to me that this happened in the lifetime of anyone aged 70 or above; that it's very recent history. So horrific that I'd love to believe humanity isn't capable of this (and maybe isn't capable of it again). But, as hard as it is to accept, it has to be accepted. It would take a lot to persuade me that this didn't happen.
I was never a denier. I know a woman who's parents survived it. The whole story was mostlly about the gassings and that they didn't really happen. That it was just a profitable hoax. I didn't really believe that. But I did think 6 million was just a huge number. Maybe I didn't want to believe that was the actual figure. But I do definatly know that the holocaust was all too real. It almost made me feel bad for being almost half german, as silly as that is. But I don't deny it. I guess it was just another thing that some asswipe had to try and disprove. I'll take your word for it.
Yeah, I agree with you. Six million does seem such an incredible number and I had the same thoughts as you. It's what made me do the maths, years ago. It just didn't seem feasible and I was actually hoping it wasn't. It's greater than the population of Norway, or Singapore, or New Zealand. How can this be?
I know you're not a denier, but I was thinking about the people who are. There's something strange in the mentality. There's a denier of the paranormal here called James Randi. Personally, I agree with him and I don't accept that there is what people think of as paranormal activity. But he's rabid about it. There's some strange psychological quirk which drives him on, and it's a little scary. I mean, it's fine to not believe something, but the guy has set up a foundation based on his disbelief.
France has a fascinating history. The Frankish barbarian tribes were instrumental in toppling the Roman Empire. France went on to be one of the world's greatest military powers for over 1,000 years. French culture has had a tremendous influence on art, literature, and cuisine around the world. Today, France is inhabited by prejudiced snobs and filthy whores. Je deteste France.
----Dispelling myths----
"France is cowardly"
The Battle of Austerlitz, Battle of Verdun, Napoleonic Wars, The Hundred Years War, Joan d'Arc, Napoleon Bonaparte.
"France has whorish women"
And you know this because you've been around them right? Please stfu. You have no idea what you're talking about.
To mke they only seem "protected". It seems to the outside, French only want to be with French. If an American white person said that, they'd be labeled a psycho racist. Nuff said.
Being a xenophobic snob does not make you refined. It makes you a xenophobic snob.
I love the french language, and french movies. I know how to speak a little french, but even if I don't understand all of it, I would seriously still watch french movies with just the english subtitles. Most french movies I think are beautiful. Especially the love stories. They're filled with so much emotion, and it's like you can truly feel that they love, love.
Oui, mon OP! I LOVE the French and France so much. I'll never be able to wrap my head around all of the French/France hate.
I'm married to a French. I love all the cultural sides - the food, the cheese, the wine, the arts. I also admire their argumentative nature, their dedication to defence of all things beautiful to be preserved and their utmost quality of finding the truth in science, history and philosophy. BUT THEY ARE SUCH SMUGS!!!! They all think they're right all the time. They can be so annoyingly arrogant the word "humble" is probably isn't in their dictionary. And they don't understand the concept. And their welfare system just incentivise people to be lazy. Well, guess all cultures have pros and cons.
It's easy to romanticize French people. Honestly, they're just people. But it's normal.
france is cowardly and like, surrenders all the time.
you must have low self esteem to admire something like that.