Is it normal to not date a man if he isn't attractive enough?

I'll make this short. There are many guys with great personalities who I meet. I'm just not physically attracted to them. I know that if I were to get into a relationship with them, they'd more than likely have some expectation of sex....which I wouldn't be able to give to them. I can't copulate with someone I'm not attracted to. Even if some of these guys DON'T WANT SEX, I would be unsatisfied because I would want to have sex.

So I friend-zone all of these guys and it's left me with a very selected dating pool at my age.

What do you think about this?

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  • TrustMeImLying

    "What do you think about this?"

    That it's normal. Were you asking because you thought it would be shallow to be this way? Because it's not. -If- appearance was all you cared about in spite of a shitty personality, then that would be frowned upon by everyone and perhaps even labeled as shallow.

    Even then, who cares? I mean you're only 24 --according to your profile-- and it's not like one can change who they're sexually attracted to. Feel free to date whoever. And even if you -were- 5/10 in looks and wanted a guy with good looks+personalities, that's -still- fine. Sure, then it may only further decrease your pool but you'd need a hunk of courage and resilience, but still nothing hypocritical about it.

    Bottom line: there's nothing wrong with being picky, as long as you realize and accept the fact that there'll be slim pickings.

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    • ArayaLioness

      I just wanted to hear differing opinions. I'm going to still be who I am, but it's always interesting to see how "new" people think.

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      • TrustMeImLying

        Well, if opinions are all you're after I may as well chip in with my personal one too =P Let's say the minimum I need in looks to be sexually attracted to a girl is x/10. If the girl happens to have a terrific personality my sexual attraction towards her can rocket upto 8/10.

        My point is a personality as well as emotional involvement can influence/bolster one's sexual attraction to another. And I'm not talking about demisexuality but from a generic perspective. If you dated one of those great personality-ed guys that you were at least minimally sexually attracted to (or not), who knows you might get more attracted to them over time as you get more emotionally involved with them. I say this because it does appear like you're envisioning that's how it would go as opposed to speaking from experience? And the latter does often put things in perspective. At least you'd know for sure.

        Of course this is only something to consider if your very selected pool forces you to be single for undesirable amounts of time.

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        • ArayaLioness

          It doesn't work though. I don't become more attracted to them overtime. There's nothing there even if they are great guys.

          I hear this time and again and people don't seem to understand that there are people who exist that that does NOT work for.

          Haha. Thanks though.

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          • Crusades|

            What do you mean by "genetic woman" ?

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  • LizardSkin

    I have higher standards than physical appearance. Still however, no fat pigs, and no self-absorbed women with no sense of humility.

    Honestly, my biological urge towards women of physical beauty often times eludes me. My rational mind looks at these arrogant bitches with disgust, my irrational mind lusts for them.

    Fortunately I have the will power to roll my eyes and walk away.

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    • ArayaLioness

      That is you, not everyone. The rest of your post was quite illogical.

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      • LizardSkin

        Yes, that is me. I am giving my opinion on the subject matter.

        Pray tell which part is "quite illogical?"

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        • ArayaLioness

          Not every woman that has physical beautiful are arrogant bitches.

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          • LizardSkin

            Never said they were.. in fact, those are the ones to aim for.

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            • ArayaLioness

              Yes. You did.

              "Honestly, my biological urge towards women of physical beauty often times eludes me. My rational mind looks at these arrogant bitches with disgust..."

              If not, what does "arrogant bitches" refer to then? Your "rational mind"? Your "biological urge"? I think it would refer to women in this case...lol.

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  • slings_and_arrows

    But romantic feelings between two people come about because of sexual attraction among other things. I don't see how you could get into a genuine (romantic) relationship without a sexual attraction. So you know some guys who are nice and funny etc. so what? Romantic relationships are something special, not just a friend you sleep with.

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    • ArayaLioness

      You can get into a romantic relationship WITHOUT having sexual attraction. Ever heard of asexuals?

      You can emotionally connect with someone beyond the realm of friendship. You completely misconstrued what I was saying.

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      • slings_and_arrows

        It doesn't sound like you are an asexual though from your post. Not that I'm that clued up on what it means.

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        • ArayaLioness

          I'm not asexual. I'm just saying that romance can happen without sex.

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  • howaminotmyself

    I wasn't attracted to my husband when i first met him. But the more I got to know him, the more beautiful he became. And men age well. When he is freshly showered and well dressed, he is quite handsome. And when he isn't, I still want to rip off his clothes because I know where that leads and I know how much fun it is.

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    • ArayaLioness

      I've heard this often: that that the personality makes the individual more attractive. I tried that on two separate occasions and it doesn't work..lol. Glad for you and your husband though.

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      • howaminotmyself

        You can't force chemistry. It sounds like you try too hard and care a little too much about appearance. It is certainly a factor, but being hyper focused on it will never lead to happiness. So you are right, it will not work for you.

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        • ArayaLioness

          That's not what I was saying. No one was forcing chemistry. It was there. But when it got to the point where sex is usually supposed to happen, I couldn't do it because I wasn't attracted to him.

          Ah well.

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          • howaminotmyself

            What do you think chemistry is?

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            • ArayaLioness

              Depends: Are you talking about emotional or physical? I can connect on an emotional level with quite a few men that I consider to have compatible personalities with mine.

              But that is NOT enough for a relationship to me.

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  • JD777

    I think it's totally natural to prefer people one finds more attractive. But, if he comes along, try not to miss out on the less attractive guy who would be a great friend, companion, husband and who may be an awesome lover.

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    • ArayaLioness

      As long as he is attractive in some way, it's fine.

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  • regisphilbin

    its normal guys dont expect you to have sex with them unless theres mutual attraction, and thats something that cant be forced, so just stay friends if thats your thing

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  • N227Anon

    The way you have put it makes it irrefutable but I believe I'm sapiosexual that puts me at the opposite side of your spectrum.

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    • ArayaLioness

      It is as of right now. Who knows later on? I don't think I'm an extreme though. If I'm to make a spectrum it would go

      Intelligence----(Personality around here somewhere)----Personality/Looks----------Looks.

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  • theseeker

    I think it's pretty normal. Although, I've noticed many women seem to be more attracted to personality than looks. In general, women seem most attracted to confidence. For example, you can be a good looking guy, but if you come across as unenthusiastic it's probably going to turn off a lot of women. On the other hand, if a guy isn't great looking, but very charismatic, then I think he will be more attractive to women.

    Even though I'm male and you're female, I look at it the same way as you. There has to be some kind of physical attraction there. With that being said, I still value personality higher than looks.

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  • CheyChey

    this is so me, I am very picky. There is a guy who I connect with on every level, he has a beautiful soul but I can't be with him because I'm not attracted to him, not even in the slightest bit. I can't picture myself sleeping with him because there is no attraction from my end... nothing.. zilch though he'd make a great boyfriend because we connect emotionally.

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    • ArayaLioness

      Precisely. And if you got with him, he may be wondering when you'll have sex. How do you tell him that you're no sexually attracted to him then? This is a reason why so many people live in sexless marriages...Lol

      Though he could be one of those guys who doesn't mind if you don't sleep with him. But it would be a problem because I would want to have sex.

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  • thegypsysailor

    Looks fade and bodies age. If you choose your mate by these criteria, then perhaps half your life will be spent with someone who you can't copulate with, or alone.
    I feel sorry for you.

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    • RoseIsabella

      Alone is not so bad.

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      • thegypsysailor

        For many, no doubt, but for the OP?

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        • RoseIsabella

          Meh. Not my circus not my monkeys.

          In the past few years I've been happier alone and less able, if at all, to relate to those who don't want to be alone. Now it feels like having a significant other would be more trouble than it's worth for me.

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  • green_boogers

    I think that you are subconsciously afraid of having an ugly baby.

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    • ArayaLioness

      Lol. Right. This coming from someone who knows nothing about me. No. That has nothing to do with it.

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      • slings_and_arrows

        Everyone is scared of having ugly, stupid babies hence why we (sometimes without realising) choose partners who have the good traits we don't have and why we don't care so much if they don't have the good traits we already have. E.g. If you're beautiful, good looks won't matter so much in a partner as the child will be average at worst if the father is ugly; if you are ugly you probs want a partner much more attractive than you, so the babies have a chance of looking half decent. Same with intelligence. Therefore saying you want a partner who is very attractive looking and intelligent *may* be an admission that you don't have those traits yourself.

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        • green_boogers

          Ahhhhhh relief. At least somebody gets it.

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        • ArayaLioness

          I don't know where that generalization came from but you can't speak for me or many other people. I'm not afraid of having an ugly, stupid baby.

          Only a simpleton, in my belief, would associate that someone who wants a lover that they're attracted and a good personality that they compliments theirs has neither.

          "If you're beautiful, good looks won't matter so much in a partner as the child will be average at worst if the father is ugly; if you are ugly you probs want a partner much more attractive than you, so the babies have a chance of looking half decent. Same with intelligence."

          That's not how it works, hon. Genetics is more complicated than that. You can have two beautiful people with an ugly baby and vice versa. Same as intelligence.

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          • libby.larsen

            Your ignorance of genetics is laughable, as is your obliviousness to the role of mate selection in maximizing the probability that your genes survive in future generations. I suppose that's okay. Be a cunt, fuck and die - a shallow life for a shallow twit.

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            • ArayaLioness

              *Yawn* How pathetic. No one is oblivious to the role of mate selection though you irrationally assumed so like a typical loser. But I highly doubt that the majority of people choose their mates with the thought of attraction being necessary for their children in mind. People choose their mates FOR THEMSELVES. Children usually come about later.

              Especially seeing that attraction is SUBJECTIVE. Ensuring that your genes succeed further than your current generation has little to do with attraction (besides the parents being into each other and the child finding a mate that they like later on). Just because two good looking smart people get together and have a child does NOT mean that the child will come out the same.

              Oh. The "C" word. Is that supposed to offend me? I've been called worse by better. Seems like someone needs to grow up. (You, if you didn't get that). :)

              Edit: Oh. Now you're ignorant of the word "shallow"? What's new? Your post is ripe with assumptions so why not add something more irrational. What a failure. :P

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      • green_boogers

        Interesting. So you feel good chemistry with very attractive males, and even if the genetic combination of both of you would only yield ugly babies, you would want to fuck him anyway. Fair enough. Am I understanding this correctly?

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        • ArayaLioness

          No. You're misunderstanding completely. It's unfortunate that this has to be explained.

          1) Emotional chemistry can happen with un/attractive men. I just prefer attractive because sex wouldn't happen with the other.

          2) This has nothing to do with ugly (subjective) babies. Why would I blame the father if I considered my baby as such anyway?

          3) You're being inane on purpose right? Or is this a serious thought?

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          • green_boogers

            Right. Somewhat inane for the purpose of deconstructing your desires and sexual interests. Remember that you asked us if you were normal. So if you didn't blame the father for an ugly kid, who would you blame?

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            • ArayaLioness

              I didn't ask you if it was normal or not. Is reading comprehension hard for you? I asked what you thought about it. Whether you think it's normal or not is irrelevant.

              Genetics. Common sense isn't shouldn't be rare.

              If you believe the foolishness that you displayed on your answers, that's you. There's just no logic in it to me especially when most people (I'm willing to bet) want a partner that they're sexually attracted to as well as a great personality for themselves...not for the sake of refraining from having (subjectively) ugly children.

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  • You know, I often hear this from women that expect or only feel attracted to men above their scale in physical attractiveness, which perhaps may be why you have such a short dating amount available to you.

    Personally, I'm the same...Ish. I'm just fortunate enough to be attracted to people who are lower on the scale in everyone elses eyes all while the ones they have high on the scale are lower on mine. That mixed with my appearance, I'm pretty fortunate.

    What would you rank yourself out of ten? A picture would be prefered. Just curious before I give advice.

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    • derpyderp

      I have to ask champ, what do YOU rate yourself out of 10?

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      • Ten thousand.

        Nah, I rate myself around as a seven in terms of what others find attractive and 9 in what I find attractive personally. Although people tend to rank me higher and compare me to people of higher ranking. So "I" would think of myself as a seven but the reality may be that some others rank me higher. :)

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    • ArayaLioness

      I think I'm completely realistic. You asked me in high school and I would have been completely delusional.

      Anyway, I've seen the guys who approach me (for sex). Granted--maybe they find me unattractive and think I'm a quick bang. That's fine.

      But I also find that the quality of what I subjectively feel is attractive...is small where I'm at. I should move to a place with more good-looking men.

      Anyway, I'm a 7.5-8 imo.

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      • The thing about being a woman is that you will generally find men that will aim to have sex with most women that's atleast average. So basing your view on something like men wanting to have sex with you isn't something you should use to get an accurate view on your physical beauty.

        Do you perhaps have a picture?

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        • ArayaLioness

          I wasn't basing my view on that. I simply said that I was able to get guys that I considered attractive who simply wanted sex. A lot of unattractive guys who want to date don't usually approach in such a forward way.

          A picture wouldn't help anything. It would simply be in your perspective.

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          • That's because a lot of attractive guys know they have a benefit to them and can get sex easier simply due to their looks, where as unattractive guys don't have that large benefit. Lol.

            A picture would help. Even if I didn't find you physically appealing I would still understand why others would. :)

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  • bbunsup

    it's normal for the callous and self-absorbed. It's pretty unusual for people with a developed sense of decency.

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    • ArayaLioness

      This sounds like an ignorant and judgmental post. How hilarious...Lol

      The majority of people want someone that they find is attractive and with personality.

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  • Flc2019

    You cannot live off of beauty, attractiveness is for the bedroom as long as a man has financial stability and commonsense that's more important than looks. money pay bills, looking good is only for sex.

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    • ArayaLioness

      No one indicated that the man must only be physically attractive to me.

      I am one of those individuals that must have an attractive good guy. Period. I can't sacrifice one or the other.

      How many guys would be with a woman who isn't going to offer him sex because of his looks? Not many.

      How many guys want a woman who is just going to lie still and try to ignore him on top of her because he's unattractive? Not many.

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      • slings_and_arrows

        Most people wouldn't reject sexually the man they love just coz he's not good looking. Your last two points don't make much sense to me.

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        • ArayaLioness

          I'm betting most of those people prefer personality over looks anyway and not both equally if we're going to talk in generalizations.

          The last two points were based off of Flc2019's answer and how attractiveness is only for the bedroom.

          Those "unattractive" men would be sorely disappointed if I were to get into a relationship with them...and that's understandable.

          They would more than likely want to have sex, but I would be unable to provide.

          If, somehow, I was persuaded or felt obligated to give him sex, I wouldn't enjoy it and it would be obvious to him.

          How many men would like to be in that situation? I'm betting close to zero. And issues like the above are reasons for some sexless marriages/relationships and other problems.

          Sex IS important in a relationship if two or one person wants it. For some people to simply shrug it off by saying "attraction shouldn't be that important" may not understand the consequences of such a thought.

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