Is it normal to have a hatred towards vegetarians and vegans?

I have a hatred towards vegetarians. Don't get me wrong I do not have a hatred as such towards a vegetarian person, just their belief. i just don't understand what their problem is towards meat, it is our nature to eat meat it doesn't make us cruel, ok you could argue that we could survive without it but that isn't the point. It's like saying a lion is evil for eating antelope, it is not evil it is doing what it needs to do in order to survive the same as what we do. As long as an animal is treated humanely when killed I don't see what the problem is, I understand it is not a nice thing to have to do but it has got to be done. I don't understand for the life of me what they plan to achieve by avoiding meat, they are never gonna stop it happening. I work in a sweet shop and vegetarians won't eat any sweet that has gelatine in it, which in my eyes is totaly ridiculous and this is why vegetarian beliefs wind me up. IIN?

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  • I don't have a problem with vegetarians or vegans. I do dislike the ones that think they're high and mighty due to it though.

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  • VinnyB

    Who cares why they won't eat it? What should you hate someone because of what they choose to eat and not to eat?

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  • Short4Words

    A lot of animals aren't treated humanely. They're actually treated quite horribly. Same goes for the fur industry and animal tested products and the list goes on. Some people want to wash their hands of all of it hence veganism.

    I can't speak for everyone else but for me as a former vegetarian I never had a problem eating meat but I had a problem supporting something that encouraged animal abuse and inadvertent torture.

    And marketing lies all the time so how can I really be sure the meat I bought was free range. And what does that even mean?

    There are rarely any guarantees unless you are buying from local farms.

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    • Redcoats

      You are correct about the free range bit. Free range is meant to mean that the animal was not held in any captivity and was free to roam around the farm.

      But, free range you see in the supermarket shelf isn't free range. Their definition of free range is like 100 chickens per 10 square metres.

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  • dirtybirdy

    You worry too much about other people's lives. Unless they are preaching, you need to just carry on with your life.

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  • Animals in the meat industry are very often not treated humanely. At all. Do your research, if you think you can stomach it.

    Humans do not by any means need meat to survive. Protein, for example, can be found in great quantities in plant matter.

    Humans are humans; they are not cats, hawks, or snakes, and therefore should not be held to their standards.

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  • "It is our nature to eat meat it doesn't make us cruel,"

    It's natural, ergo, do it. Hey guise, it's only natural that we should die from plagues, appendicitis, and that women should die during childbirth! It's only natural selection, so why should we even bother looking to cure/fix any of this?! LOL biology!!!

    "[I]t is not evil it is doing what it needs to do in order to survive the same as what we do."

    Except humans don't need meat to survive. Ask pretty much any Sikh you come across. Some animals need to eat meat to survive - they risk death if they do otherwise. In their case, it's almost like self-defense - of course, in the event that a human for whatever reason needs to eat other humans in order to survive, other humans have the right to defend themselves from such a person. The same rule applies to other species - humans have the right to eat them if the alternative is starvation - otherwise, it's pretty wasteful. That's self-defense. Eating 4 eggs, 3 pieces of sausage, and a handful of bacon for breakfast, a turkey sandwich for lunch, and a burger/steak/whatever for dinner is just wanton and cruel. Even if you are going to eat meat, do it sensibly, please.

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  • Thexoutcast

    I simply think meat is gross. I don't give a shit if someone else eats it. I just refuse to. Does that piss you off?

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    • No, that doesn't piss me off. It pisses me off when people refuse to eat it out of some sort of protest against something that is totally natural.

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  • stopandthink

    Why the fuck is this 27 percent normal? It's his opinion.
    I imagine a bunch of kids sitting behind computer screens clicking random poll options.

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  • They mean well, but I think they can be really smug about it. They really love animals, but do they only love herbivores?

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  • theseeker

    I agree, it's the food chain. I don't really get vegetarian beliefs, but I don't have any hatred towards it or think it's ridiculous. It is what it is.

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  • charli.m

    Ignorant morons piss me off, but I don't let it bother me as much as you apparently are bothered by something that has absolutely nothing to do with you at all.

    I know this may be a complicated idea, but no one has to live the way you expect them to. They're allowed to have their own beliefs, opinions and practices, as are you, but they aren't the ones getting shitty because someone else doesn't do things "their way".

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    • Legion

      I don't think he is bothered by vegetarians not eating meat, but by those who act all smug about it and say that the person who eats meat is wrong and immoral.

      The ones who insult me for meat eating are as annoying to me as those born again Christian types who push their church on me, despite my insistence that I am fine with being a Catholic. (Well, until I started messing with them, like that Mormon minister I convinced I was a Satanist!)

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      • charli.m

        Perhaps, but they didn't really articulate that.

        I know a fair few vegetarians and vegans, and I have to say, they've never once lectured me on my meat eating ways. I'm sure there are those who do that, but I see much more of it going the other way.

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  • westoptic

    Here's the thing: Unless you watched every step of that animals life and the slaughter process it underwent, you cannot say that it was treated humanely. Over 10 billion animals are slaughtered for human consumption every year in North America alone. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the majority of them aren't treated well on their way out. They are treated as a product, not a living being.

    I eat meat, but I was a vegetarian for 3 years. My sister is an Animal Protection Officer (APO) for the SPCA and has become a vegetarian after seeing the horrific treatment of livestock animals and pets alike by the people supposed to protect them. She has been an avid meat eater her entire life and she literally cannot do it anymore, it makes her physically ill and I don't blame her. She's seen all the footage in those horrific videos you see online, but up close and personal in her face on a daily basis.

    Vegetarians and vegans are not bad people. They're making a conscious effort to educate people to the suffering they support unknowingly everyday. And when I see people respond to them with comments like "im gonna go eat some tastey bacon now cuz ur dumm", it makes me hate my fellow meat eaters. Don't bash the vegetarians because they make you feel guilty. Ask yourself why you feel guilty.

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    • I never said vegetarians are bad people, far from it. I do not bash vegetarians because it makes me feel guilty, this sounds horrible, but I do not feel guilty whatsoever for eating meat as it is natural for us to do so and not doing anything to stop the poor treatment of these animals, don't get me wrong I would hate to see the animals suffer it is wrong and inhumane but refusing to eat meat doesn't change this. As for your sisters reasons for being a vegetarian I completely understand and respect her decision. My post was explaining or trying to at least why I hate the vegetarian belief not vegetarian people. Vegetarians like your sister I can completely understand because they have personally seen animals being treated badly, but its others who just won't eat it for the sake of it. You probably won't understand at all where I am coming from, but it is just the ways I feel.

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      • westoptic

        Not trying to nitpick here but "...it is natural for us to do so" is a logical fallacy called the naturalistic fallacy. Rape is natural, nightshade is natural, shitting in public is natural. Natural does not automatically make something right or good. I understand where you're coming from because I also eat meat and believe in the "everything in moderation" mindset, but you are using old arguments that aren't exactly substantial or logically rooted.

        Refusing to buy meat does make a difference. When you buy meat, you are buying into a company that sells a product made from the mass slaughter of animals. By putting money into this company, you are encouraging and supporting their business and thus increasing demand for the consequent supply of more product (meat). By taking your money out of the equation and refusing to buy this product, you are lessening demand while simultaneously making a statement that you are not okay with supporting the questionable standards through which the product was produced.

        It's the same reason why so many McDonalds have been shut down across North America in the past two years. People aren't buying like they used to because they're getting wiser about what the food is doing to them and whether or not they want to be the one to support that industry. Money talks louder than morals.

        "Hating" the vegetarian belief consequently implies that you dislike vegetarians because they follow this belief. And there are numerous environmental and socio-economic reasons for vegetarians diets aside from the moral reasons. Animal factory farms are the standard for livestock production now, and these are responsible for massive amounts of greenhouse emissions, erosion of vital topsoil, eradication of wildlife and all organisms from river systems because of animal waste run off, and the ruining of local peoples lives who are driven from their homes and business because of the stench, pollution and dirty politics of these operations.

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  • Unimportant

    I tend to think that vegetarians/vegans are morally superior to me, a meat-eater. However, I wouldn't want to live a life without eating meat. Hypocritical, I know.

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  • pixie44

    Its their personal choice and lifestyle why does it bother you so much?
    Some people just feel like they would rather not eat a dead animal..

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  • mystery7

    Only when raw vegans et al try to evangelise me into their idea of what I should eat. I reach for my plank of wood.

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  • breathingtree

    I guess a cannibal could say the same about your choice not to eat people.

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  • modernism

    "As long as an animal is treated humanely when killed I don't see what the problem is..."

    That's the thing. You can't tell if the cow you're about to eat has been horribly slaughtered or humanely put down when it's laying medium rare on your plate.

    There's 3 main reasons why some people refrain from eating meat:

    1. They simply don't like it

    2. They are trying to lose weight/eat healthier

    3. They don't want to support the inhumane slaughter of animals

    And as for all three of these options, I don't see a reason why any of them would even remotely concern you.

    Go eat your steak and move on with your life.

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  • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

    hit em over the head with a zucchini

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  • JD777

    Arguing either side seems to be fruitless. If you want to eat meat, eat it. If you don't, don't eat it. The only thing I think about is vegetarians or vegans who raise their kids that way and if they know enough about proper no-animal-product nutrition to feed their kids right. Of course, meat-eating parents get this wrong, too.

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    • Asstastics

      Your concluding point is not clear. Help us understand. Are you saying that people are ignorant?

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  • Cliche1234

    It's ok if they're vegetarians/vegans but it seems some of them take their belief way too far that it exasperates others. I have carnivore tooth, just let me eat those yummy meats.

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  • howaminotmyself

    It is their choice. My problem is the way people talk about it. Preaching and insulting someone's lifestyle kind of sucks.

    I've been on both sides of the vegetarian fence. The important thing to remember is that different people have different needs and different beliefs. And that is okay.

    Personally, if your food was raised locally, I don't care what you eat.

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  • thegypsysailor

    When they bop into my life and start lecturing me that I should join them in their insanity, I get a bit miffed.
    Most vegetarians I meet are not vegetarians at all, but simply silly people who have, for one reason or another, decided to stop eating meat.
    It takes a great deal more than not eating meat to have a balanced diet when animal protein is removed from one's intake. So these non-meat eaters are doing nothing less than destroying their bodies, on a whim. Dumbasses.
    Sorry, rant over.

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    • westoptic

      "Most vegetarians I meet are not vegetarians at all, but simply silly people who have, for one reason or another, decided to stop eating meat."

      Yeah, people who don't eat meat are in fact vegetarians. It's not rocket science lol

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      • thegypsysailor

        By definition, you are of course right, however it takes a great deal more than stopping eating meat to thrive and be a healthy vegetarian, as I'm sure you realize. So you are just being an asshole, arguing just for the sake of arguing. Thanks, that's just what IIN needs more of.

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        • westoptic

          Nah actually you don't seem to grasp that an unhealthy vegetarian and a healthy vegetarian are still vegetarians. Your statement just didn't make sense and I was pointing it out.

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