Is it normal to hate women bosses

Is it normal to hate women bosses? I am a woman myself. I find them to be so mean, even if some are nice to your face. They are so petty and think they have to be a bitch in order to get ahead. But that's not true because ONE time I knew a woman boss who was a real sweetheart. And she had a high position with a great paying job. She was living proof that a woman doesn't have to act like a bitch in order to get ahead. These women are also "fire happy". I've seen them fire other women for the dumbest reasons, including myself. I love men bosses because all they care about is that you do your job. But women are so petty and try to find out your personal business. And then they get PMS or have problems with menopause and you never know what kind of mood they'll get in or who they'll fire next. My cousin had a job where she wasn't trained that well but she had a male boss and he let her attend training classes. She told me that a woman boss would never do that. Most of them would just say "sorry, I have to let you go because you're not qualified enough for this job". I agree with her 100%. They cannot wait to fire someone, especially if that person they're getting rid of is a woman. What is it with these bitches?? I've always been nice to them and did my job but they seem to "look" for something to get you on. Men don't care at all. Just do your job and they're happy. I wish so bad I could find a job with a male boss but everywhere I apply it's a woman who turns out to be a bitch. I am not sexist. I am a woman too. But why do so many women feel they have to be tougher than a man to get ahead? That is just not true. As I said before, I knew ONE woman boss years ago who was a real sweetie and she had a great position with the company. Why do women bosses seem to enjoy hurting some of their women employees?

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  • gummy_jr

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  • Anime7

    I'm not going to lie; in this world I think if a woman wants to get ahead, then she has to be tougher than a guy, at least that's the position that we've put woman in. If a guy's assertive, he's a boss, if a woman's assertive, she's a bitch. I could go on a whole rant about this, but I feel somebody else will cover it.

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    • Jill123

      I would never call a woman a bitch just because she's assertive. There's a huge difference between being assertive and being down right mean-spirited. And if a man boss is mean-spirited I would quickly call him a bastard or creep. Neither a man nor a woman has to be this way in order to get ahead. I don't understand what makes them think they do. If someone has the right stuff and the right personality, there is no way they have to be a bitch or a creep to get ahead.

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      • Anime7

        Honestly, I think we've sort of trained people in our society (America) to view kindness as a weakness. Ever heard the term "nice guys finish last" well, perhaps to many that's true and so they have to change who they are in order to finish on top. You say the right personality, but that's a really broad term because it depends entirely on the people you're working with. If they have respect for the job and you, then being kind to them wouldn't be so bad, although keep in mind that kindness can be viewed as weakness. While if you're tough on people, you can at least expect them to do their job, where as in kindness you're putting your trust in them to do the job. See what I mean?

        Also when it comes to women in the workforce, there are some social things that I frankly feel sorry for that they have to live with. I mean the general stigma for woman is that they're suppose to be passive, obedient, and always pretty. But if you try to break out of that then people will surely be confused. Also what if you see a woman at the top? Some people might assume that she had to sleep her way to get to where she is, thus, she is forced to show everyone that she's competent, and sometimes the only way to do that is to be tough. Like I said, a tough woman, maybe a bitch to some.

        I agree with you in that a person doesn't have to be a bastard (I hate the word creep) or a bitch to be a boss. However, I think that's because you and I are the type of workers who care for the job we have and someone who you can trust. Where as not every worker is like that. Just like how not every student is hardworking or trustworthy, a teacher has to be stern on those types of students.

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        • Jill123

          You're so right about kindness being seen as a weakness. How very sad. Actually, if someone is really getting on your nerves or offending you, then it takes a lot of strength and guts to show patience and kindness toward them. I think angry people are really the weak ones because they cannot control themselves. A strong person can control themself. "Hate" is a strong word. I should correct myself on this and say that I don't hate women bosses. I just don't like them and have only met ONE in my whole life who was truly a nice person and she had a high position. I think "hate" means you wish bad things on someone. And I don't wish anything bad on any women bosses. I just wished they realized they don't have to be mean and bitchy to get ahead! Now as for kindness being seen as a "weakness", I'm not sure now if I agree with you completely on that. It seems that most people like someone who is kind. And kind people seem to have more friends and be more popular.

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          • Anime7

            I agree that most people, if not all, like to be around kind people. However, a boss isn't necessarily suppose to be your friend. I use to be a part of my high school's newspaper and the chief was actually this one girl. The thing about her was, she was a bit mean, well a lot actually, but she could also have fun. She was by no means a sweet heart. But the thing was that there were a lot of lazy people on staff and you know what she did, she would just yell at these people, just in front of everybody. And they ended doing their work. That's the way I look at a boss, she was friendly when everybody had their work done, but when people didn't, which was often, she would just yell at you to get the work done. I say this because I want to compare her with our new chief, and let me tell you she was a sweetheart. Truly wouldn't hurt a fly, but the running joke in the class was that she had no real power. If anything the only reason people did their work is because her friend would have to privately talk to the lazy people and explain to them how important it was. We were all mature, but sweetheart couldn't run the class.

            I think you have to be stern with people if you're the boss. If you're a woman a lot of pressure is put on you and not everyone is as mature as you want them to be. The parallel between the two chiefs above is that one of them was a good balance of mean and kind, and a lot of people called her a bitch but she honestly thinks of herself as one, at least she acknowledges when she's one, which in my opinion is sad that we put woman in that position. Try to be assertive and people will think of you as an bitch, but if a guy does it then he's just being assertive and people respond to that somewhat more positively. When it came to the sweetheart people just saw her as having a lot of weakness, although nobody wanted to make her cry and they were mature enough to realize that they all did have a job. But nonetheless people did joke that she had no power. Someone who's a sweetheart just doesn't seem like the type who could run a place, unless the people she works with are mature and understand that they have to do their job.

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            • Jill123

              When I say someone is a "sweetheart", I just mean a truly nice person. Not someone all perky and cutesy and would burst into tears if you gave them a dirty look. I don't mean that. And of course men and women bosses both need to be stern if they have lazy people working for them. But the last woman boss I had wouldn't bother calling someone into her office if she thought they weren't doing their job right. She would just fire them. I also don't like it when a boss embarrasses an employee by yelling at them in front of other people. That isn't right. People should be spoken to in private. A lot of what you said is true. But I still believe that a truly nice person can get ahead and NOT be thought of as "weak" just because they are very pleasant to be around. Whether a boss or not, people enjoy being around a kind person far more than a mean one. I worked for a woman boss years ago who was so damn nice! And when she left to move to another state with her family, we had people in the office crying. That is how popular and well liked she was. She was never thought of as "weak". She was just one of those people you love being around. And she made her staff want to do their jobs better because she was always such a Joy and would encourage us and praise us. THOSE are the kind of women (and even men) bosses we need!

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  • suckonthis9

    It is NOT politically correct to hate anyone.

    This is yet another reason why we should ALL strive to be more diplomatic, and less political.

    It is normal to dislike all 'bosses', whether they are female or male.
    This is an archaic mindset which we must transform from.
    We need to transform our societies from one of a top-down hierarchical structure, to one which 'flows' in both directions, from the bottom-up, and from the top-down. In this new society there will be no place for bosses. There will still be more rewarding, better skilled, coordination positions available.
    In our work, information and management flows in two directions rather than one. We all work as a team, with those in coordination and / or management positions also 'getting their hands dirty', so to speak (in variable configurations).
    This would mean that 'entry level' personnel would need to assume greater responsibilities (and would be rewarded for such).
    Please note the use of the term 'work', rather than 'job'. A 'job', is only A PART OF one's work. This is a political trap, one way that they control you. Do not fall for this, by repeating it.
    You want meaningful and rewarding work, not a job. We must ALL work as a team, including those in more advanced positions.

    Please do not use -ists or -isms. This is another political tool, used to divide and control.
    The statement that you made, is meaningless nonsense. It would have been far better to have stated something in the positive, such as, 'I am sexy' or 'I don't mind working with people of either sex'.

    Should you have a problem with a dictatorial and / or domineering boss, then you should collaborate with your workmates (teammates) AND others to run a 'babysitter mafia' on them. This WILL 'fix' them.
    Be very careful in this, and seek professional (legal) advice.

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  • I read up before that there is this sort of thing in the mind of female bosses that actually try to ensure other females do not get far in the same line of work as herself, and that female bosses were far more likely to do this to women than male bosses.

    Regardless, I keep hearing the same thing from you as I do others that have had female bosses, so I don't think it is a coincidence.

    I don't think it is harder for women to get in positions, if anything, many jobs lower their standards for women while keep the standards of men higher, just check the fire department, law enforcement, and military jobs, women are to meet a far lower standard.

    I'd ask, if you are being interviewed, the name of your boss to sneakily find out of they are male or female if you want to ensure you are not working for another female.

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  • loopoo

    I've had psycho male bosses.

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  • handsignals

    Isn't it weird how guy's started going to work with an Ak-47's and going on killing spree's around the same time woman started becoming managers.

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  • Grapist

    Women shouldn't be the boss. Also, they shouldn't he sportscasters. THAT just pisses me off

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    • Jill123

      U have to chuckle over your remark and that it pisses you off. Oh dear, there are a lot more things in life to get stressed over than just the positions women hold. Don't forget, we are human too. And we're all unique, both men and women. And all humans have different needs and desires. If a woman's dream is to be a sportscaster, she should follow it. Don't let yourself get pissed over a small thing like this, even though you might think it's a big thing. But it's not. Sounds like you might hate women, that's a shame. I'm not trying to analyze you but feelings like that usually come from men who had bad mothers. Or they had really bad marriages or other relationships with women. I am assuming you are a male, though I could be wrong. Some women believe in what you do also. Why does your name say "rapist" with a G in front of it? That's interesting. Most rapist hate women. It's not about sex but about wanting to over-power someone and that is the only way they know how to do it. An extremely cowardly act.

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  • KatieLiz

    And stop talking about PMS and menopause as if they make women go crazy. They don't. That whole idea was created by men who wanted to keep women out of positions of power and authority, by portraying them as hysterical and unstable.
    All PMS does is make you feel varying levels of ill. Not to mention that any woman with half a brain cell who actually gets PMS takes feminax or something to get rid of it.

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    • Jill123

      You're right in a way. But it happens to be a fact that most women who have murdered were having PMS or a really bad menopause with no medication. Of course, lots of women go through all these things very easily. But there are some women who have a terrible time. I've seen bitter fights in the office where I work. Women getting so damn upset and crying. Later on they confessed "I had PMS so bad yesterday but today I got my period and feel way better". And then this woman would apologize to the other one for fighting with her. Also, we had a woman boss going through menopause and believe me, she had a different personality every day. She even admitted that her hot flashes sometimes changed her into someone else! So it's not "all" made up by men. Many women themselves have admitted to feeling "a lot more bitchy and mean to others at those times".

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  • KatieLiz

    That's the way you have to be sometimes if you want to smash that glass ceiling. As a woman you have to be twice as effective to be considered half as good as your male equivalent.
    Also, what some see as assertiveness and leadership qualities in men will be mistranslated as bitchyness in women, due to the ridiculous view that we all should be 'sweethearts'.

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    • Jill123

      No, we shouldn't all be sweethearts. I would never call a woman a bitch just because she is assertive. There is a HUGE difference between being assertive and being a mean spirited asshole who doesn't give a crap who they hurt. The same goes for men. I've seen men with such dynamic personalities that they didn't need to be creepy as some male bosses are. If they want to make the work place enjoyable for their employees and more productive, both men and women need to boost the morale of their department, and not try to act like a Drill Sergeant. Acting like some big shot ass who thinks they're better than you just because they make more money will only make their employees less productive and want to leave the company. And that happens often. No one should have to be around some mean-spirited woman (or man sometimes) who will make you feel nervous and hate going into work. Someone who fires an employee over every little fart or sneeze. And they act like they're God when they do it. Fine, their judgment will come someday.

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  • Thexoutcast

    This is how I see women in general

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    • Jill123

      I wouldn't say women are this way "in general". I have truly loyal women friends. As for hitchman, he is staying with a woman who he wants to beat. Someone who is very unhealthy to be with. She has cheated and hurt him. But he needs to get away and find a woman who will make him feel good about himself. There are plenty of good women out there. And good men too. But sometimes we look for love in all the wrong places. I still don't like women bosses, I would rather have a male boss. But I'm not against women. Whenever I have a problem, it is usually a woman who is right there to listen and help me.

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  • disthing

    My mother is a female 'boss' (manager). She's great and not at all like the women you have encountered.

    I've only worked for one female manager before. She was OK. Flawed, but I wouldn't say she was excessively mean - she'd put her foot down when appropriate, but also praise when appropriate.

    So my experience is somewhat to the contrary.

    HOWEVER, what I do hear about frequently is that work environments filled with predominantly female staff tend to have far more problems with in-fighting and bullying. It seems if there is one thing that will make certain women let loose their claws, it's another woman, especially one in a position of authority.

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  • SuperBenzid

    I hate to say it but I know what you mean. I am sure there are good female bosses but I think there is a trend that some female bosses can be painful. I would say it is probably because normally no one teaches you how to manage other people and since female bosses up until say the last 20 years have been the exception they don't have a strong subconscious societal role to fall back on. So they feel they have to act this way.

    If you have a female boss and things aren't going well, other than quitting, you can try to suggest they handle things better. The rule there is minimize the flaw and then personalize the suggestion say I would feel better about following your lead if you were a little more polite when you asked me. People are more likely to change if they think their flaw is small.

    Some people are beyond such help however.

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