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I am 26 years old and unlike most of my peers, I can't stand rap or hip hop because it's so anti-intellectual.
I think of all my parents had to say about the world around them and then I hear these pissy egomaniacs singing about drinking and getting laid and it makes me sick. I seem to be in the minority about this. Is this opinion normal?
I think its normal to hate rap/hip hop. I am looked down on by other ppl bcuz im black and i hate rap so much. It gets so old bcuz they talk about the same stuff over and over again. Im tired of hearing about guns and sex and violence. These guys get paid so much to lie. "i got. Chopper in the car?" really? He knows he aint got nothing in his car. And whAts with the phrase "no homo"? Why say something that sounds gay and then say no homo like thats goin to make it better. Am i not goin to think ur gay bcuz u said no homo? Me personLly i hate rappers. They're so homophobic. And im sick of thAt damn auto-tune. There's a reason i only listen to MJ.
Should I step in, AGAIN ? Everything you hear on the radios nowadays is quite unintellectual, actually. Of course they don't play raps full of witty metaphors and deep political messages, because the general public does not have the time to analyze it while driving or shopping. So don't hate on the broad genre; be more specific or it just shows how unintellectually ignorant you are ;)
I have never liked rap even when it was supposedly good.
I'm just not down with that lyrical flow.
I hate it too listen to death metal and free yourself from that ish.....
It's definitely normal.
I'm 19yrold girl and all i listen to is rap/r&b.
Despite my immense love for the genre, the music i listen to most of the time (lately: The Weeknd), mainly talks about strippers and drugs, doing drugs with strippers, on strippers, thinking about drugs while having sex with strippers, getting high while having sex with strippers, and lastly, strippers.
My point is when I'm in my car listening to music, I want the drive to be as short and mindless as possible, i don't want to intellectually contemplate the vast intricacies of life while driving to school-- that's what school is for. Those who desire to be intellectual individuals accomplish this in many ways, listening to "simple" music does not define the listener as simple themselves. I find brilliance in my writing, and am pursuing my PhD in such-- but when I'm in my car, I want to hear about some strippers.
In closing, this is totally normal and understandable, but respect we are greater than the sum of our parts.
Eminem-infinite
Mobb deep-self conscience
Canibus-Master theisis
Still think its un-intellectual?
If you don't like rap and hip- hop, you don't like rap and hip- hop. Its up to u to chose if u like it or not. It's not weird. You can like and dislike whatever you want. It doesn't matter if your friends do or don't.
Well personally Rap is way more talent than Pop or Electro... I don't really like Rap I just like Kollegah a german Rapper... the lyrics may be superficial but that doesn't mean it's no talent to Rap...
You know it's funny, since I posted this, I have discovered a some hip hop I actually liked through a friend, though I can't recall the name of the artist at the moment. I'm glad for all the suggestions of more intellectual fare from those genres because now I know it's more than meets the eye.
It's a pretty common opinion and can be geared toward any type of music really. But like anything else creative, music genres utilize a wide variety of subject matter. You may just not like this style of music, and that's fine, but if you looked into it a little I think you'd find some very intelligent forms of the genres you referred to. They do exist, but they still aren't something everyone likes.
I hate (C)Rap and R&B, always have and always will. And many others feel the same way so yes it is normal to hate the music. ( If you can even call it that)
Being a musician and having an musical background since I was a little kid, for the life of me I can't understand how people can like that noise. There are NO musical instruments, NO musical talent is required to make a (C)Rap album, you don't even have to know how to sing. (C)Rap is all drum machines, mixers, etc with some guy talking ghetto babble over it. By the sound of the (C)Rappers you don't even have to have an education past the 3rd grade either.
All the lyrics compose of Blame YT, How hard they have it in the Ghetto, guns, strippers, bitches, raping, murdering, etc.
R&B, Hip-Hop is pretty much the same except the singers know how to sing. The thing that gets me with R&B and Hip-Hop is that just like (C)Rap NO musical instruments just synthesized drum beats and sounds. Oh and the Ghetto babble as well pisses me off.
The reason why (C)Rap and R&B is so popular is the Music industry has been pushing it down peoples throats as being " cool" and people eat it right up.
The Music industry wants to push (C)Rap and R&B, Hip-Hop etc is for these basic reasons:
1) Cheaper to produce.
2) Cheaper to record.
3) Cheaper to pay one performer than a whole band.
4) They can pump out an album every month or two instead of a year or two.
Pretty much they pay a third less to push a (C)Rap album and make more profit.
What suffers? Actual technique orientated music and our future generations. When I see children idolizing these (C)Rappers and the "Ghetto thug" lifestyle, or when I see them talking Ghetto Babble I die a bit inside and lose faith in the future.
Your rant ONLY applies to popular rap music, and not even completely so... I'm going to reply to each of you statements one by one.
Digitization of music production still requires a producer to have knowledge of music composition. If they can't necessarily play an instrument, they still have to know how to make notes fit together musically. Most Digital Audio Workstations use piano diagramming, from there it can synthesize other instruments - but that doesn't mean the producer doesn't have musical knowledge.
Ghetto Babble? First of all, those two things don't necessarily have to go together. Even more so, real rappers rap about what's real to them, so the fact they may have grown up in the ghetto is a reflection of their reality.
Regardless of how poorly you relate to it, subject matter is not necessarily a reflection of intelligence.
So you don't like that particular subject matter? There's so much more to 'Hip-Hop Music' than what you hear on the radio. Like I said, real rappers rap about real things. If someone didn't grow up in that lifestyle, they're rap shouldn't reflect that...
Here's a few songs for you to check out:
"Silly Puddy" by Zion I ft. The Grouch
"Get Down" by Grieves
Cheaper to record/produce, I don't disagree with that. But since when did something's price work as the sole factor of it's quality?
Your time-based complaint is invalid...
You don't understand the amount of technique required to do something, it's not something I can explain either...
Now I will agree with you on how seeing 'chilldren idolizing rappers and the ghetto thug lifestyle, I die a bit inside and lose faith in the future.'
That is something pushed by mainstream Rap and R&B, but I GUARANTEE you there is so much more to the genre than you even begin to fathom...
Respectfully,
-A Rapper
Modern rap is shit with lil' wayne and jayz, but if you dig deeper and got into the past a bit there are real gems out there. In NZ and Japan there are also very good interesting hip hop cultures. Hip hop was established in an effort to get youth away from gangs and off the streets. However the Gangstah rap movement started in '92 with Dr. Dre's "the Chronic" and is what you are referring to. Artists i would recommend are de la soul, tribe called quest (both formed in the late 80s and part of the Native Tongue Posse, a group established to promote peace amongst black youth), Che-Fu, Nesian Mystik and the Teriyaki Boys are both good international artists.