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I don't find this to be the norm for me. I've watched the following video of women being harrassed on the street. First, does this actually happen? I live in Toronto and walk on the streets all the time without being harrassed. Second, is it me or is that just not harrassment?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A
It's new york shitty and it's full of low class nigs what do you expect?
I did not click on your link, I'm replying based on a vid I saw on Jezebel today. I get that too, but it just makes me feel good, rather than the aging hag that I am. :(
"Hey beautiful"
"Hey ...thanks"
"So how are you doing?"
"Fine ..."
"hey what's your number, maybe go out sometime huh?"
that's the reason why it counts as harassment, because I know where the conversation is heading if I reply. The awful truth is that when a guy says something like this to you spontaneously chances are huge that he's attracted to you and want to pursue something else than just giving you a compliment and replying to this would (in my book) give him the impression that I'm interested in him.
This has happened to me wearing everything from skirts and slutty outfits to me being fully dressed and wearing jeans. women does NOT appreciate being called out after on the streets as if we were fucking dogs. -_-
Bow wow wowza baby, wanna watch me scratch my fleas and lick my own balls
Well baby you're beautiful like a tree.
Because you make me feel all Squirrley, and I want to store my nuts inside you all winter long
I would almost watch out of morbid curiosity and if someone was so flexible they could lick their own genitals
Street harassment is definitely more common in certain areas. Living in the city, it's probably triple what is was, compared to the smaller and more rural areas I've lived in. The things guys would say in previous places I have been were always, "hey! are you a model?" or lighthearted pick- up lines that could be brushed off and ignored.
Now it's ridiculous nonsense, scary and unnerving when it happens.
There's a website called, "ihollaback", with stories and useful information regarding this.
Is this post pertaining to the recent articles about the girl who was using a hidden camera to show how she was harassed over 100 times in 10hrs?
I'm guessing its that video of the Jew woman who walked around for 10 hours and only came up with 2 minutes of film - half of which was just common courtesy - and is asking for money for it, right? Sigh..
Does this happen? Yes! Is it annoying? Sometimes! Is it harassment? No!?! Unless you want to sound like the boy who cried wolf.
Just some men acting like their more primitive counterparts, like birds with their feathers puffed up and dancing around the female. I just smile and keep walking - no big deal.
"But why would someone say 'have a nice day'? what does that lead to?!" Association fallacy ("hitler ate sugar, so sugar is bad"). Then you start to sound like a sociopath, but I guess that's pretty normal for New Yorkers.
It's common no matter where you are - a lot of people are saying it's just something that's bound to happen in the city etc. but even though that may be true, if you're a young woman you are bound to be a target wherever you go. I myself don't live in the city but am cat called and harassed on a daily basis. There have even been times where I have been walking down a main road and multiple men would stop their cars to offer me rides and even though I ignored them and kept walking they'd slowly drive beside me trying to strike up a conversation. To me that's more frightening than being called out to on a city street, where at least the guy will hold back since other people are around. When it's just you and a complete stranger practically stalking you in his car with nobody else around, anything could happen. This has been happening since I was a young teen. Girls are always told to take it as a compliment and not to view it as anything serious, but I guarantee it CAN get serious pretty fucking quickly.
I watched this video earlier and I am skeptical about it purely based on how I have lived in numerous areas, been in public spaces while walking and being behind and infront of women for long periods of times due to the direction we were both going, and yet not seen this happen once.
Not saying stuff like this doesn't happen but I think that the portrayal of this happening as frequently as it claims is just...Well, deserving of skepticism. I personally think I and others should do this experiment themselves with a woman they know just to be sure.
I also think a lot of what was in this video wasn't necessarily bad. People saying "Hey, how are you doing" and "Hey, nice day" and so on or whatever was said along those lines in the video. Even if those were ways just to initiate a discussion with someone they find attractive, it was done in a respectable manner. Obviously there were those that crossed that line in the video, though. Some of them were beyond creepy.
I've asked a few women I know and are friends with, or some in comments if they have experienced such things in their day to day lives and most have said no, which just adds to my skepticism of the validity of this video.
This has happened to me. The reason why "hey" and "how are you doing" counts as harassment is simply because I know what happens when I actually acknowledge these spontaneous invites to chat : They ask me our, ask for my number or something along those lines and quite frankly it's annoying and gives me discomfort because a lot of these guys cannot take no for an answer and it's stressful.
I also think that it may be different depending on the girl in question and where she lives. No, it doesn't happen all day everyday but it sure does happen far too frequently ( My outfit varies from skirts to fully clothed)
I don't think that counts as harassment or that leading to asking for a number. If they persist after saying no or then jump to insults due to it, then I will agree. I've had it happen to me from time to time and wouldn't consider it harassment other than when it turned out into insults or so on for saying no, though.
Well, it FEELS like harassment if you know that more often than not saying no leads to a difficult situation for you if you follow me here?
Then, of course, it's wrong to judge everyone but when this is the standard it's hard to not feel uneasy about things like this.
Just because something feels like harassment does not mean it is. Yes, things can escalate if said no, just as many perfectly acceptable things can escalate. I have dealt with what you're explaining myself but I wouldn't take it as a reason to brand something as harassment just because it may lead to those situations.
I can't really agree that it's the standard in my experience of seeing rejected guys, but meh.
Different countries, different gender and different opinions so,meh.
Though I must say that if someone FEELS harassed his or her thoughts and feelings shouldn't be dismissed.
I guess men in general must learn to sense when their contact is welcome and when it's not. And females need to not judge all men as potential rapists- Sadly it's hard to avoid.
Some of it seemed like harassment other parts seemed like nice comments like hi nice day and how are you doing ...didnt seem bad to me.
I have never been harassed but I have had guys I dont know stare at my ass. It doesnt bother me as long as they dont touch.
It really depends on where you live...I've lived in very populated cities, like Chicago, where I've never had single a problem. I lived in a populated college town (party school) where I got a lot that would be considered beyond the bounds of questionable pick up lines from drunk assholes(the worst being "show us your tits").
My worst experience, where I was actually terrified, was this time where I was walking home alone on an empty street after dark, and there was some man who slowed his car to my walking pace for over a mile, and said nothing but "psst psssssst pssssst " out of his dark car window. I was so terrified that I contemplated my keys as an eye stabbing mechanism. :(
It's never happened to me, that I know of. I don't dress feminine and I can be rather stand off-ish. I assume that I'm giving of a "don't bother me with your shit aura" because, no one bothers me anymore. Disturbingly enough, I got bothered when I was a child and wore very feminine attire. I'm not blaming the girl. I'm just stating what I've noticed. I can't see the video because I'm on the app, I'll come back to your post if I remember.
i thought they mostly sounded nice except for the one who walked with her for a few minutes, he's pushy