Is it normal to assume that all men cheat?

Let's keep it real, over the years I've witnessed the married men in my life as same as my father, would cheat on my great loyal mother.
And I've gotten so mad over it. I know not all guys cheat but I hate to accept the fact that probably almost all of them would someday.
I can't tolerate cheating and I know that I have to keep that in mind about my future boyfriend. Women do so too but much less and they usually fall victims.
I would always look over some forums or topics to see some guys proving it wrong so I could feel hopeful again but again, the majority just prove it otherwise with time. I know I shouldn't be judgmental or jump to conclusions but whenever a couple break up, I usually think that the guy cheated on her or got bored of her. Stupid logic but I guess it's because the area I live in brain washed me to think this way.
So what's your opinion, do all guys cheat eventually?

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  • 8=====D~~~

    Human beings are not hard wired to be monogamous. All other primate species (of which humans are) engage in sex with multiple partners, sometimes heterosexual, sometimes homosexual. The point is one partner for the rest of your life, sex with that same person for the rest of your life isn't something every single person can do. Trying to guess if someone is in fact someone who CAN do that and someone who CAN'T do that is not something that can easily be done. There isn't any cut and dry formula or blueprint for a relationship that will never involve a partner cheating on the other partner.

    It just happens.

    If you want to minimize the chances for yourself in regards to being cheated on (as a woman)than someone else above gave very relevant real world advice and that is to avoid the proverbial "ladies man". What most women do (some learn from it as they get older others never learn at all) is see that a certain guy gets A LOT of attention from other women. Being competitive creatures women assume there has to be a reason for this so instead of dating the "no challenge, boring guy" they take it upon themselves to "get in line" for a chance at this "ladies man". Upon getting a chance with this "ladies man" women than convince themselves that even though this guy may have a reputation for not being faithful that they will be the one to change him, he will leave his cheating ways behind for "love".

    Of course this is nonsense that only happens in the movies and not in real life, but what happens is the "ladies man" reverts back to his character traits and cheats and the woman goes to pieces.

    On a personal note, I always found it interesting that these same women, assuming a certain level of attractiveness (say 7/10, 8/10) always without fail have guys that are "friends". I.e. friend-zoned. These guys will be the shoulder to cry on, dropping everything (even leaving their own mother on a sick bed) if the woman calls about how "he did it again". They convince themselves that if they provide enough emotional support eventually the woman they desire (who friend-zoned them) will come around.

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  • Duderanch

    The odds may be against you but that's where the magic begins. Have hope.

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  • Terence_the_viking

    This stereotype is highly offensive.

    Must throw shit at OP.

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  • Tealights

    It's not about men, it's about your father and you.

    Believe me, I have father issues too. My dad also cheated, treated my mother and I like crap, stole money, and some other nonsense.

    I can definitely tell you that if you don't take the time to understand why you're upset and move on from what your father has done, you'll end up hating men in general to no return or subconsciously date men who remind you of your father and repeat the same cycle countless times.

    What helped me tremendously was knowing that every horrible person (both men and women) have similar behavioral patterns, traits, and sometimes similar beliefs on what's right or wrong. Some hide them well, and a lot of them are obvious about it. It's all about knowing what to watch out for, and being realistic. The problem I see in monogamy isn't that men do this, or women do that, it's the fact that A LOT of people like to rely on their heart and "feelings" when in a relationship, but never consider to use their brain (myself included at one point).

    I understand chemistry, attraction, and all that are a huge part of it, but if you notice a guy after a month or so of dating say, "Wow, we should get married," or "You'll look better if you wear this," or some shit that makes you stop and wonder, even for a brief moment, then you may have a potential problem on your hands. Same for dating women, if you notice a girl you only known for a week or so getting jealous over everything that comes near you, then it doesn't matter how great the sex feels or how "right" she seems, you got a potential problem you may regret. Also, if you noticed is someone has an enormous history of failed marriages/relationships and constantly blaming their past partners for everything that went wrong, then it's best to believe that he/she is the problem, but fail to see it.

    Along with that, you got to notice when the relationship feels off, and use your intuition. Know when to walk away, or have a serious talk. So many good men/women get attached to the wrong person, and make excuses for their bad behavior. For example:

    "Oh, he's independent, that's why he disappears for days without saying a word."
    "Yeah, she's just the jealous type."
    "He told me loves another girl he just met, but since we been dating for years, I know I can trust him!"
    "She loves me a lot, that's why she wants me to spend all my time with her. So sorry guys, can't hang out."

    Or being too afraid to just speak their concerns because they're not sure what their partner is going to do. Being scared of your partner on any level is unhealthy, and it makes me want to rip my hair out when I encounter people like this.

    Anyway, my big rant aside, just work on yourself mentally. Take steps to heal from the past, and learn about relationship warning signs so you can encounter less assholes.

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    • It's hard because I see this happening to my friends and how poorly have been treated by their boyfriends. So I have this idea on my mind that I'd be cheated on too and it's just crazy.
      I hate to generalize but it's hard to believe.
      I've been brain washed by society and until I find someone to prove me wrong, I'll have a hard time trusting people.

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  • I don't feel like you are being realistic. You based your judgment on a pessimistic frame of mind.

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    • Duderanch

      Do you deliberately try to be an asshole or does shit just dribble out of your mind naturally? Boner killer!

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  • mysistersshadow

    Apparently my post was deleted. Oh well.

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  • KingStephen

    I cheated many times during my first marriage. But I don't think the average guy who cheats does so to be sneaky or to get some sort of thrill from the act of cheating (I know of some that do). It's much more complicated than that. For me the main problem was the marriage itself. We got married when we were very young. We had two children before reaching age 23. We needed to grow as adults and thus we grew apart. But with the responsibility of raising and loving two children it is no easy task to just call the whole thing off. So I cheated. That was my coping tool. I could have left her, surely. But to leave my young son. My young daughter? Nope. When our kids got older we divorced. I'm very happily remarried. I have never cheated on my present wife. Have absolutely no desire to. So that's my story on your subject, sweetie. I cannot speak for any other guy.

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  • Reallyusuck

    In my experience most men do not cheat. They'd I if they havelowsf esteem and opportunity strikes. I game many male friends and a male partner. Cheating is not inherent. I depends on the persons own experience. Humans are not monogamous but not polygamys either. Because jealousy is real. Circonstances alter reality. Respect is key.

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  • Jujudog

    hmm. Yes a lot of men cheat, so do a lot of women. Its a lottery, don't look too deep into it. Go for broke. Go for happiness. Take the falls and get up stronger. You are 19, what the hell are you even worrying about this shit for? Your outlook will have changed in 10 years due to the experience you build up, and changed again 10 years after that.
    I'd prefer instead we look at why so many women willingly, and even seem to take pleasure out of, destroying a man's life in malicious and deceitful ways, just because they can. Believe me the scales tip well over in women's favour when considering this.
    So grow a set and quit trying to pick on men, when women have proven themselves to being far more malicious and hurtful creatures than their superior counterparts!

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  • CountessDouche

    They don't, not all of them, and the assumption that they do is pretty jaded. It helps to understand the reasons why certain men do, as other users have pointed out, and it also helps to be able to identify signs that someone is predisposed to doing it.

    Having said that, yes, many men cheat. Many, if not more, women cheat as well. You can say your against cheating and never would, but to say so with assurance means that you don't understand the complicated reasons behind cheating in the first place. In most situations, people don't PLAN to cheat on a partner, but it happens.

    Be aware of the signs and problems that lead to it. Avoid those that are predisposed to it. It can be prevented in many cases, with attention, communication, care and commitment to the relationship from both sides.

    In short, be careful who you trust, and once you do trust someone, make your relationship a priority and don't let it slide.

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    • Okay if you say that most of men cheat, which is a great motivation for the future and also a warning. Give me a percentage example of it?
      70% percent of men are likely to cheat? 40% are likey to cheat?
      I know sometimes is for different reasons and for example women being in abusive relationships meet someone that treats them right etc.
      But I'm mostly talking about those who don't take their partner seriously and just cheat because they feel like they need to and can't stick to one person which is hard to understand why?..

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      • CountessDouche

        Why? How is that useful information?

        Are you only going to trust 30% of men if 70% happen to cheat?

        I understand your hesitancy and fear when it comes to involving yourself in a committed relationship. If the majority of men cheat, then maybe you can convince yourself that there's no point in taking the emotional risk...but without risk theirs no reward.

        Maybe your best bet is avoiding your tendency to write men off, and assume that they are all no good, cheating assholes, because they aren't. If you think that way, you will rob yourself of a happy relationship.

        Perhaps, instead, you should focus on the reasons people cheat, and how to recognise someone who is apt to cheat from the get go. Maybe then, you can focus in having the type of fulfilling, open, honest relationship that prevents people from feeling the need to cheat in the first place.

        I think if more people focused on the fundamental health of their relationships, cheating would be far less common.

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        • I perfectly understand you but you didn't fully understood me.
          I'm 19 years old and let's say I'm looking for someone bit older than myself, 25ish.
          Doesn't guarantee that this person is mature or anything.
          This guy has never been married.
          Been in a couple of failed relationships which ended on a bad notch.
          So we started dating, let's say I provide everything they need and have an open relationship with them. Give and take.
          But this person just got bored of the idea if sticking to one gal, and the fact that they'd have to be choosy with their endeavours drives them crazy.
          And then he slips out and starts talking to other girls and stuff.
          I'm talking about the percentage of people likely to cheat not because of any problems, but because of their ego and the inability to control themselves.
          It happens a lot between youngsters and I've witnessed already 5 breaks up in my social circle only just by the beginning of this year.
          Why the percentage is so high and are relationships mere ilussions?
          I hate the thought of commitment and all that shit that will go through my mind because you know that saying, the more one thing repeats thyself, the more it will be ingrained into the mind.
          Ever since I was a little girl I've only witnessed the guys being the main problem for the failures of relationships.
          Which is partially true. Girls play victims all along.
          You'll say but, he sounds immature to me etc. I just gave an example of a non perfect human being.
          Usually the matured guys who have jobs and everything they need, the last thing in their minds would be relationships.
          I've witnessed a grown mature man who was a writer and I personally adored his work until he started saying that cheating was okay, and that the men need some easing up with other people from times to times while their gfs and wives stay loyal to them. Oh hey, love is more important? Right?
          I think betraying your best friend sexually and emotionally is not right. Let aside the love in this case.
          I stopped following this man and I was quite shocked, was I not open minded enough? Is it me to blame..

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          • CountessDouche

            : ( woah, ok- it sounds like you have some pretty deep seated issues of mistrust involving men. It sounds like you have seen some betrayal from both mentors and friends which has led you to think all men are not to be trusted.

            I know sometimes formative relationships can shape your viewpoints of people, but you are simply jaded because you've been indirectly hurt by important men in your life.

            Not all men are bad. You need to be logical about things, and understand that your personal experiences don't mean that all men are untrustworthy.

            If you can't get past this, you need to see a counsellor, and I mean it- being angry and resentful and distrustful in your relationships (be they romantic, friendly or professional) will fuck up your life in a bad way. You can't live your life completely distrusting people of the other gender- it will only do you harm.

            These feelings you have need to be dealt with.

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            • It's even hard to be friends with guys here, or they will want to bang you or they will want to bang you. So I don't have guy friends.
              I am from a poor European country and the disrespect between people is abnormally high. I haven't lived in other countries where people are lot nicer. But yet, nothing sounds convincing and until then I'll be living my life independently.

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  • IMissMary

    I used to cheat, but now I don't.

    So not only do all men NOT Cheat, but once a cheater does NOT mean always a cheater.

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    • What if you loved a person so much, would you cheat on them?

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      • IMissMary

        The choice not to cheat has nothing to do with the other person.

        The "If you loved me....." line is all BS. Fact is I love ME more than I love anyone. Nobody can be blamed for loving themselves more than anyone else. So if I loved myself I would not let myself suffer to make someone else happy.

        I don't cheat because I don't want or need the drama and I also don't have the time and energy required to cheat. Plus my sexual needs are being filled at home.

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        • Some do it for fun because they don't respect their partners and seek thrill elsewhere so they would feel wanted.

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          • IMissMary

            Some people do anything for any reason. Out of the 7 Billion people on Earth, I'm not going to worry myself about why everyone does what they do...

            If I don't wake up next to you I don't care what you do or why you do it.

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  • Ass_gas

    Actually, the probability of them meeting on a random encounter is 1%.

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  • Ass_gas

    I never cheated ever. But, it was hard being married to a closet lesbian. Desperation was the keynote of our lives.

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  • Cocomilktitties

    There are plenty of guys out there who do not wish to cheat and don't cheat. But you have to look at the pool from which you draw from.

    Lots of times, the guys that seem attractive to a lot of women are guys who get a lot of girls. That makes sense. They are usually pretty social, pretty confident and comfortable around women, and the fact that they have other girls interested in them makes more women interested in them. They are not always physically attractive, but they can be and often times are. The thing is, lots of times women get into relationships with these guys thinking that they "won" and that he picked her over all the other girls and that it will stay that way. But again, the nature of this kind of guy is to be around a lot of women and to have chemistry with a lot of women. And that is a recipe for cheating unless he is extremely committed to a particular girl.

    Lots of women go for a "ladies man" without really trying to go for that type of guy. He just might stand out the most because... he's a ladies man. But someone said something to me once that really makes sense. For a long term relationship... someone who is kind of "boring" is kind of good. That doesn't mean you can't like them or they can't be attractive, it just means that they are more mellow, more low key, they're not on the social scene as much. Because for a long term relationship, that's really what it's about. Just kind of living your lives together and having stability and safety. Someone who seems really exciting sounds fun and all, but in the long term that's more difficult to maintain unless maybe you are both that way and just except that you lives will be very all over the place.

    I think that women also cheat quite a bit, but it's in a different way lot of times. It's more subtle with women, and lots of times they might even end the relationship before it gets to a full blown sex life with the other person. It happens though. But in either case, there are lots and lots of guys and girls out there who do not cheat and do not wish to.

    They might not always be the ones who stand out at first. You might have to go digging for them a little bit or just look a little harder to see them, but they are there. They can still be very attractive; but remember, the first one you see is probably the first one a lot of people see. The person who comes up to you at a bar is probably the person that comes up to a lot of people at a bar.

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    • Pamelap

      I perfectly know that and I hate those "too attractive" type of guys that all they care about is their looks and try too hard to impress by wearing gayish clothes, it's just a major turn off for me. I don't understand those girls that go for those guys knowing that is a lost cause.
      I like those more laid back guys that don't follow the crowd and that they stand out by their different way of style. And the fact that they are keepers and usually have a small social circle.
      I'm like that too and I'm pretty attractive myself, and I'm proud that I'm not like them because it's pathetic to seek happiness from outside sources that feed your ego. I hate that type of insecurity and ignorance they present.

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      • Cocomilktitties

        It can be deceiving sometimes because sometimes those types of guys aren't always super good looking. They might just get a lot of attention for other reasons.

        I think it's also important though to watch out for "loser" type guys. And I don't like using that term, but I mean guys who kind of are in a dark place or angry or aren't really doing anything good with their life or have any desire to do anything. Because those guys might be looking for just any type of relationship and then might screw you over.

        I have sadly seen some women be screwed over by guys like that, too.

        Sounds like you have good taste though. I'm guessing you are OP? Just know there are plenty of guys out there who won't cheat (: There's been so many times as a guy that I have thought that there were no women out there that would be able to commit or who weren't just looking for a fling. But I always remind myself that there probably are plenty out there who aren't like that, they're just not always as obvious. After all, it's not every day that you meet someone special.

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        • Pamelap

          True and yes I take notice of those gloomy guys that hate their jobs and lives and just manipulate other people because they can't love themselves. People are surprised why I'm single but I guess I'm not desperate and seeking for attention.
          If there was someone to impress me and show me why is better than staying single I'd give it a go. But right now I prefer it this way and I'm patient.

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  • Not normal.

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    • I love your profile description. It's pretty true.

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  • IMissMary

    The need for Love, Affection, Sex, Companionship are all natural. If any one of them or any other natural human need is being withheld or not fulfilled that person has the 'right' to seek out someone/something to fill that need.

    If I didn't screw my wife, I could not blame her for finding someone who will.
    If I don't feed my dog, I can't blame it for finding food elsewhere.
    Every living thing has the right to be happy and have its needs met.

    So the term "Cheating" is all BS too. People don't want their mates to "Cheat" on them, but instead they want their mates to "Cheat" themselves out of happiness by enduring the pain of having basic needs withheld. Nah, I love myself too much to cheat myself out of anything. And if someone needs me to be unhappy so they can be happy then to hell with them.

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    • You don't understand, if you don't feel happy about something in the relationship, talk it out with your partner and if things don't get sorted out just break up, and then you wouldn't be considered "cheater" or get a divorce, to be in a marriage requires faithfulness, understanding, desire and compassion.
      If you cheat, you cheat on yourself, imagine someone you really love, just cheats on you just like that for the "lols" because of sexual impulses. You wouldn't feel good right?
      That's why I don't understand cheaters, before doing something like that, give it a shot with your current partner, if no, divorce or break up or whatever before creating more pain.
      I see cheating as betrayal. And nothing is worse than that.

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      • IMissMary

        BTW, its been proven that more women cheat than men.

        http://elitedaily.com/women/are-women-likely-to-cheat/1057815/

        http://www.yourtango.com/201172881/women-more-likely-cheat-men-heres-why

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      • IMissMary

        You are obviously not married.

        Just get a divorce is not as easy as that after you have been married for a number of years, esp if children are involved.

        Not married then break up, sure...been there done that.

        I see cheating as betrayal too, which is why I will never, ever betray myself...the most important person on Earth.

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    • Tealights

      Not disagreeing or trying to start a debate, just curious to why aren't you polygamous or stayed a bachelor and have sex with whomever whenever? It really sounds like monogamy isn't for you.

      It also feels like you've been hurt really, really bad in the past that made you jaded toward the idea of loyalty.

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      • IMissMary

        I am loyal, very loyal to the most important person first, me. Yes I am probably jaded, nothing like a dose of the truth to help people get the right perspective. The truth can be a hard pill to swallow so most people avoid it in favor of the easy lie.

        Like I said before I don't cheat or even have the desire to cheat. I get all I need from one person. However if I didn't I'd have no problem getting it elsewhere.

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        • Sounds selfish. You constantly seem to be looking for happiness from outside sources. It's like or they make me happy or I cheat. How about you, do you provide all they need?
          I think that if they don't give you what you "need", which deprives you from "happiness" then why go back to cheating.
          Happiness is within us.
          If they treated you badly, or took you for granted you have all the rights to speak up before you commit to such an act.
          I don't know what form of cheating you meant, sex?
          If your partner hasn't given you enough emotional attention, why seek sex? If they don't have time to talk to you, why seek sex? It's so unrelated.
          If cheating is in the form of only sex because everything else is missing, sex itself is not satisfactory.

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          • IMissMary

            Unlike you, I don't look for happiness from outside sources. I make the most important person happy, me.

            Yes I provide all they need, otherwise I could not blame them for looking and finding it elsewhere. People want to use guilt, religion, society beliefs or whatever they can to stop people from getting their needs met elsewhere. If it works then they start slacking off, because why work hard at keeping someone's needs met if religion or guilt keeps them in check.

            My way of thinking means you either work to please your mate or you expect them to get their own needs met. Of course everyone will say....Oh I do everything to satisfy him/her, I don't know why they cheated. But we all know that's a lie.

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            • Some would lie that they do everything for their partners but some wouldn't. It's their other half that doesn't appreciate it or values it enough. Or there aren't emotionally invested.
              Or it's not reciprocated.
              So at the end one ends up with exuses.

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            • IMissMary

              My way of thinking makes people accountable.

              I was loyal to me before I met anyone else, it would crazy for me to constantly switch loyalties everytime I meet someone. My loyalties remain constant. I am accountable to me first, if I have a relationship I am accountable to keep my mate happy in order to keep them in the relationship.

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