Is it normal therapist get angry when you are not narrow minded?

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Sometimes for IQ tests and evaluation tests
therapist/psychologists/teachers will give you a series of simple tests. This is an incredibly flawed system which I find biased.

Every-time I have been given the question "Is the cup half full or half empty" I answer "Both". This seems to aggravate the person giving the test but its not actually me being defiant. It is the logical answer to the question. You can not say one is wrong and that one is right since either answer is the correct.

Yet clearly this is not how the test is suppose to be answered which means without these premade tests the people giving the exam are not really that intelligent at all. They are just trained monkeys doing exactly as they are told.

Along with the fact they went to school to learn psychology for so many years should means they should know more about the subject than I do. Yet they can not even anticipate what to do when people answers the test differently. Now it might be excusable if they ask someone not in that field to give it but for those in the field doesn't that just prove how unqualified they are?

Yet ironically its these idiots who are given the ability to test people. So is it normal that therapists can not do anything without the book on hand? I mean if you were really that educated you would know what to do when the "How to" manual is not present.

I mean every time a doctor does open heart surgery are they going to say "One second let me go read the manual".

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  • dom180
    10 years ago

    If you're paying (or even just taking the time) to see a therapist, they expect you to be co-operative. The therapist wouldn't get annoyed if they weren't trying to help you. They want to help, but if you're giving responses that don't make sense of course they're going to get frustrated. You're asked to choose between two options, and you disobey the instructions. How can a therapist help you if you disobey the instructions? If the question truly makes no sense to you, you should ask to skip it or say "I don't know" instead of giving an answer that wasn't part of the multiple choice. That way the therapist isn't being confused by information that isn't relevant to them.

    If you went to see a physical doctor, you would be expected to answer their questions as they were intended too. A mental health doctor expects the same. I guarantee if a physical doctor asked you what you ate for lunch and you simply said: "I don't eat lunch, I eat dinner", you would get some nonplussed responses from them too.

    Your analogy at the end also makes no sense: like a heart surgeon, a therapist has to choose the tools they want to use, choose how to apply them, choose how to interpret the results of their work as they go along. A better analogy would be to ask what a heart surgeon would do if the patient stood up just before operation and told them they wanted completely different instruments to be used to the ones that were set out. I think the heart surgeon would be just as confused as the therapist.

    You are right though; the questions on those sort of tests are usually very wooly and non-scientific and it does annoy me too. I don't think extremely simple questions like that are a good method for clinical psychologists to use because they are very open to interpretation and require the patient to have a unreasonably high capacity to distance themselves and not over-think or criticize the questioning. It's also a therapists job to keep their patients feeling they are in a safe and calm atmosphere, which your therapist also clearly failed at.

    So yeah. I agree and disagree.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      10 years ago

      Also you are wrong not all therapists or doctors in that field want to help. However I really am not going to go into that in this instance. Also I already explained its impossible to answer such a question since you are suppose to answer on your personal perception. Mine is what I answered both. The world is not black or white and as much as you think it never will be. Sometimes its good and sometimes its bad. Neither answer is really incorrect but it neglects the other side of the equation.

      Unlike you believe things are never that simple. Its not so black and white. Sometimes people kill in self defense not just because they are a bad person. In world of villains and heros we have normal people the citizens. Yet really we just focus on the Hero fighting the villain. We don't really go into how the citizens feel but these people exist.

      Why I believe this test is flawed since people who are not biased can not actually answer it properly. I already explained this in a comment and in my passage. Its not actually defiance but its based on my thought process the answer and always will be BOTH. Regardless if the option was put on the test or not.

      Also I picked surgery for this reason. A Physician goes to school for so many years studies get to the office and is expected to know this shit. They don't just give any idiot a license. The doctor is not going to say before surgery let me read the "How to" manual. If they do you should probably get the fuck out of the room since they are not qualified.

      So no its not different. A Psychologist/theripist so on go to school for so many years to study psychology. For them to actually have to do stuff like this and NOT KNOW what to do when things dont go exactly the way they hoped proves they are unqualified. If something does not go right in a medical office they have to think on their feet.

      They know what they are doing and are trained to react in all and any possible situations. This is what makes them qualified. An unqualified person would be like me trying to fix a computer by reading a "How to" manual and watching "How to" videos. Do I have any idea how this is going to work? No I was given instruction to do it. Much like the worker at an assembly line. It takes no knowledge.

      I expect people going to college/university for so many years to be a little more qualified than an assembly line worker dont you? Or are you saying that everyone is just wasting money? Since I believed that whats college/University was suppose to be for.

      Dealing with medicine and medical procedures is serious. I don't think we want any old smuck doing it.

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  • Avant-Garde
    10 years ago

    I know that I am supposed to be on break, but I am intrigued now.

    First and most importantly, what is your psychotherapist's approach? I think here in could lie the main issue. The doctors that are trained in the more old-fashioned Freudian approaches seem to be more rigid as opposed to a doctor who has been trained in a more "modern" approach.

    My therapist's approach is a blend of Psychodynamic, Humanistic, Eclectic, Existential, and Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT), etc. She doesn't pull this type of Freudian crap and I appreciate that. She treats me like a person and she is non-judgemental.

    Or, another problem (from the doctor's view), could be that they see you being unwilling to corporate, unwilling to make the necessary changes in your life. The very problems which lead you to come to therapy in the first place. Also, just because you don't get along with your therapist doesn't mean that you don't have the right to terminate and look elsewhere. What's the point of wasting your money on a relationship that is going no where?

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      10 years ago

      Well they gave me a series of test. They had a list of symptoms and generally would try to fit me with the list of symptoms. Since I fit some but not enough of any set list for any of the disorders it confused them. Also when you go to a therapist as young as I started you have no option of termination since medical decisions are not yours. When you came in they would nit pick at anything you did. Anything you did was wrong. If you were quiet you had depression. If you were too talkative you were ADD/ADHD. So its hard to try to figure out a balance of reaction and verbal cues especially when you were like me who had a very poor understanding of human emotion to begin with. So everything I did was simply mimicry to fit in with the crowd. Its hard learning to lie well. My reaction to things was logical not emotional and I did not understand why people cared so much about stupid things. For this reason I have also been accused of being a psycho/sociopath but oh well.

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  • Sog
    10 years ago

    If your therapist got angry because you didn't answer "full" or "empty", then he's an idiot and you should find a new therapist.

    The fact that you answered in the way that you did still provides him with valuable information.

    For therapists, the point of giving these tests is to just to see how you react and then gauge your reaction accordingly. It's not necessarily to tally up the score and follow some rubric in the back of the book.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      10 years ago

      Why I said it shows how unqualified they are.

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      • Sog
        10 years ago

        "They"? As in therapists in general?

        Not everyone is the same. There are people who are good at their jobs and bad at their jobs just like anything else.

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        • Anonymous Post Author
          10 years ago

          In general would not be all first off. Also I think the system they follow is kind of flawed if this idiotic test is the best way they determine someones mind process. Also if they can not determine what to do when things do not go according as planned that proves they are unqualified. If all they are relaying on is a test already made up I could probably do that job despite the fact I never went to school for it

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  • [Old Memory]
    10 years ago

    I have similar experience with mind doctors.

    My theory is it takes an arrogant person to presue a career in judging others and this is why they are this way.

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  • lemoncity
    10 years ago

    My therapist doesn't give me tests, we just talk.

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  • [Old Memory]
    10 years ago

    Yeah.. who gives a Fuck?

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