Is it normal that women obey men?

My point is not to insult men. What I wish to ask: where is the loyalty to one's sisterhood? Allow me to prove my point: 1) All religions with the exception of Buddhism portray women as second class. 2) With few exceptions, all women accept the names of their husbands following marriage. 3) Most women do cook and clean for men daily/weekly [regardless of their professional status]. 4) Most women expect their significant others to cheat [regardless of their lifestyle choice, spiritual views]. 5) Most abused women do forgive their mates [rather than seeking justice]. 6) I have seen with my own eyes, an executive at Goldman Sachs give up her career to become a stay at home mom [without valid reason]. 7) I have similarly seen with my own eyes the female lawyer of superior intellect [Michelle Obama] become Jackie Kennedy [fashionista, arm candy] overnight.

I am in shock and rightly so. My final thoughts: There is power in the word no. Independent thought/skepticism are good things. Loyalty to one's sisters is only logical. Let's evolve shall we?

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  • lol_bamf

    1) False. Paganism/Wicca too.
    2) True, but I find that taking your partner names solidifies the bond between the couple (and I don't like my last name).
    3) False!
    4) False!
    5) Beaten Spouse Syndrome. This happens to both men and women.
    6) It was her choice. Is it such a crime to want to bond with your child?
    7) Michelle Obama is a proud woman. Her husband has one of the most stressful jobs in the world. I can't blame her for leaving her job to become support her husband emotionally. I highly doubt she quit her job with out serious thought.

    You are sexist, like most extreme feminists. You make hasty generalizations about men and women who do things traditionally. I honestly hate people like you.

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    • Piximae

      i have a complete an total opposite of everything you just said; wicca do NOT and i repeat DO NOT look down at women in fact they look UP to them (i think id know this i have looked into wica and i have a best friend who is in fact, wicca) The original writer is NOT sexist, our society is sexist. as what Mel said; i am a feminist but for gods sake i do not make hasty generalizations; and i believe that man can take the name of their spouse; i am(i strongly believe) the last of my last named family and i am a woman, and i vowed since i was quite young to keep my maiden name even after marrage. You are right about 2) but that applies to both men and women

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  • paradoxinsoxs

    Well I would suspect a women to cheat on me before I cheated on her- and I know a few stay at home dads- I personally would rather have the better cook cook the meals or both work on it together,- I see your point though

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  • CountryRoads

    Agree.
    Completely

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  • Enizzle

    Damn bro.

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  • laminator

    I am a man and I would cook and clean for my woman. I'm saying it because I don't know how to create and maintain a relationship.
    I think it is just a supply/demand issue based on today's status of things.
    Any other man that has no problem finding a mate will choose a woman that is willing to do what he wants.
    Since I can't seem to get any girl, I am willing to do many sacrifices to please my girlfriend.

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  • softexcel

    Why don't you actually enroll in an educational program and improve yourself? Insulting feminists only proves that you are an idiot.

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  • Kilt

    I am a woman and I do not expect or accept any man I am committed to, to cheat! I don't think the majority of women do or they wouldn't get married. I don't believe in obeying men or men obeying women. I don't think it's right when your in a relationship that either party impinges their wants, needs, desires and rights so the other persons are not meet. At the same time you would be stupid not to be guided by the wiser person in that particular situation. Also it's okay for a women to look glamorous and feminine it's not obeying a man anymore then it is obeying a woman when a man wears a suit.

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  • jamesmom

    I used to agree with you until I had my son and I don't think that I have lost any power, just a bit of income to stay at home with him. As for the cooking and cleaning it is shared in my household. As for religion people will see what they want to see. I see that it is more important to treat each other with respect and realistic you only give perseved power to men if it suits you. I find that women generally are the ones who keep each other down with career areas as they don't tend to support each other.

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  • kyanviado

    Budda is apart of pagan and pagan regard women as equal. You my dear girl are sexist!!

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  • jrphotographer

    Oh yeah I'm Buddhist! :D

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  • yayasaga

    There's nothing more normal then a persons loyalty laying with the people the love the most. It sounds as if the woman who gave up an executive position at wrk found her loyalty to be with the people she loved the most, her husband and children. Same with Michelle Obama. What lucky families they are getting the constant care and love from the person who loves then the most. Ones loyalty shouldn't just belong to a race or sex, religion or group. It should be with the ones you love no matter who they are. I think people who do put their loved ones first are always happy more satisfied people. There is no right or wrong either way though. People have choices and everyone makes their own. All everyone else should do is be as supportive as possible and only wish for the best for others. Evolving has nothing to do with any of this.

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  • rockerxchick313

    But then again... Do you want to lead around your man who is loyal and slightly afraid but will do anything and everything for you? Though fun at the time you eventually just want them to grow some balls.. Sadly equality doesnt seem like a possibility though..

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  • MarkDh

    Women have always traditionally been nurturers, they tend to stay at home and take care of the kids or be it cooking and cleaning. It was only in the 1950's that this began to change. Do not expect 5000 years of history to change over night.

    That said, I personally disagree with your stance. Your idea of feminism is very black or white, from what I can tell about the above post you don't see shades of grey. This leads me to believe that you are part of the young generation, that's out to change the world. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it, however, feminism is about the right to chose what you do.

    1) In fact Budhha himself said, that by allowing women to become indoctrinated into the religion would lead to the downfall of Buddhism.
    2) Again I point to 5000 years of history here.
    3) Depends on culture and the parties involved.
    4) That is perhaps one of the most ludicrous things I have ever heard. Both men and women cheat, trust me you have no idea what you are talking about.
    5) Spousal abuse is perpetrated by both sex's roughly 66% are men, that means 1/3 of which are women. Now given that so many people who are abused (especially men) don't report it. I'd be willing to bet that number is closer to 60% women /40% women. (BTW this number comes from the Department of Justice for the USA.
    6) They may have a valid reason that you have no idea about. Unless this person is you, you will never know the exact reasons.
    7) I agree with the other poster here, Barack has possibly the most stressful job in the world. Each term served by a US president is supposed to age you 10 years. Again I would have to say don't presume to know what goes on in that relationship.

    I would advocate that you think seriously about the above rebuttals and let us know what you think.

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  • Mel

    OH & abused spouse happens to BOTH men & women....except women are the overwhelming majority of who reports it. When men do, no one believes them & laughs...calling them pussies (basically). So there are MANY way to see differences in gender roles.

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  • Enizzle

    Nah, I'm cool. You could make me a sammich, though.

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  • Enizzle

    Don't you have a bra to burn somewhere?

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  • goFUCKyourself

    make me a sammich

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  • mysti446

    I cant disagree more. You come across as incredibly sexist, and naive. Just because a woman will pose for a pic beside her husband does not mean she is eye candy!! I, and any other woman i know, do not consider it our duty to clean for our husband. In fact my husband is expected to clean equally with me, and i only cook if i feel like it - which he can certainly attest to. Keep in mind just because you think you see something doesnt make it true. You can never know the dynamics of a relationship that go on behind closed doors.
    Now this isnt to say that all women don't give in to their husbands wishes.. but i certainly dont think its the majority by any stretch of the imagination!!
    Organized religion isnt a good basis for anything.. But thats another whole post!
    And on another note - a growing number of women keep a variation of their maiden name.

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  • Mel

    Women have the CHOICE to do whatever we want.... Business professional or staying at home. Lawyer or wife/mother....etc. We can take a mans name, or NOT, all of us can believe in whatever we want to & find a partner who has the same religious beliefs. How many women would allow their men to make such drastic personal choices? Majority wouldnt. I think women have a significant "upper hand" in todays society, our variety of personal choices & decisions are much more accepted than mens. If a guy chooses to leave his job & stay at home following his personal "dreams" hes a low life who needs to go out & support his family.

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  • TheTodd11

    Simple answer, Women get their period!!!!

    No matter how much progress a women makes, she will always be set back to the one week a month when she acts crazy and irrational

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