Is it normal that the military keeps people out for adhd?

The current military policy is, if you have ADHD we pretty much don't want you unless you can prove you don't have it, haven't taken medication for it, or we're really desperate.

Seriously? First off, I might be biased. I have ADHD. As in, I have been diagnosed with it since a very early age till adulthood. I've been medicated for it about the same amount of time. Does ADHD even exist? You can be the judge of that. Some people will claim from the rooftops that it does exist. Some hate that ADHD is even a considerance among society.

I think ADHD, even though I have been diagnosed with it, is a load of crap.

The stimulants they put you on are completely mind altering, and the idea of giving it to children just because you can't handle them is stupid. And the fact that it is going to barre me from getting into the military is even a larger load of crap. I've been on stimulants in the past, but I'm not jiving for a pill... ever. The drug kinda blows imo.

How do they diagnose you? They look at you. That's it. That is all they can do. There might be a study out there that uses extensive MRI or CAT, but not generally. A doctor looks at your kid, or me for example, and goes "YUP. YOU FIT THE BILL!", then proceeds to prescribe me (or your child) Amphetamine Salts.

I can see why the military wouldn't want someone with ADHD, if it DID exist, in the military. It's a huge red flag of "they can't handle anything.". But I feel like this is a load, a huge choking load, of crap. I get the whole, "you've taken a drug so wait a while" thing, and although the policy states this it doesn't seem like they like considering people if they've had it.

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  • NeuroNeptunian

    Well yeah, any potential deficiency is a red flag and as far as the government is concerned, ADHD is as valid of a disorder/diagnosis as TB or cancer. The military is government, what did you expect?

    Personally, I've been treated for many mental disorders, none of which I'd mention. They can't possibly figure it out unless they go interview my relatives and friends which wouldn't happen unless I was going into the police department or getting secret clearance. You go ahead and try to lie your way through, I don't have the balls XD

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    • smootht3r3z1

      I expected a bit of lienience due to the fact it is so commonly misdiagnosed.

      Lie my way through? No. I just need another doctor to say, "Nope! Looks like he doesn't have it anymore.". Which I find as asinine as hell.

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      • NeuroNeptunian

        How would you expect that, though? There's really no tool to properly diagnose it. There's no diagnostic method, as you said, that can immediately prove or disprove ADHD. As far as the feds are concerned, if a doctor says it, it's gold. We'd have a lot of trouble be it any other way.

        It's asinine but they have no way of knowing whether you were misdiagnosed or no longer in need of treatment. They're not just going to take your word for it, come on, man.

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        • smootht3r3z1

          I expect them to act as they did 10 years ago. Just not care.

          The diagnosis method is flawed. It shouldn't be required.

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          • NeuroNeptunian

            It's a liability. Just because the method is flawed doesn't mean that it hasn't produced legit diagnoses. Even the method for BiPolar disorder is flawed but that doesn't mean we should let every Tom, Dick and Harry Nuthouseresident in on good faith XD

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  • anti-hero

    Awesome, if the draft comes back I have an excuse.

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    • smootht3r3z1

      +1, though my prior service will be mine.

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  • dom180

    I've never understood why the military bar people just for being a certain way - whether that way is being diagnosed with a mental disorder, being female, being gay or anything else. Presumably they think these traits make people incompetent... but don't the military have tests to decide competency already? If so, why ban a certain group of people from taking the test, just because you think most of them will fail it? Let them take the test before you decide if they've failed it, idiots. It's ridiculous.

    You are understandably upset.

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    • smootht3r3z1

      Considering the version of the asvab I took was 11 years old? I think it might just be easier for them to slap on rules to 'weed' people out.

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  • fissionmailed

    I was in the Marine Corps, so I understand where they're coming from. In the military, you will deal with the most stress you ever will in your life. You have to be able to handle getting yelled at, taking orders, standing still at attention or parade rest for hours, etc. Especially in combat, that's real stress right there. You have to worry about getting shot at, moving with speed and intensity. Look at it from their perspective, would you like someone going into your unit or platoon and the guy can't focus well? No, you will get yourself or somebody else killed because you gave away your position to look at a butterfly or sh*t like that.. That's not goin to just Marine Corps, every branch of service has their own stress. And you will deploy most likely, and will be at your destination for atleast 7 months to a year and a half. If you can't focus well, then why would you think the military would be a good fit for you?

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    • Gamesrfun99

      One thing bad about ur comment: a person with ADHD wont have a problem moving with speed and if you medicated there should not be such a big problem

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      • fissionmailed

        People with ADHD are gonna have a tough time, in boot camp and in an actual combat zone. Whether they are medicated or not, they don't want to worry about someone giving away their position because the ADHD guy decided to look at a squirrel or something that throws their aim off target or something like that, you're not even allowed to scratch your face.
        When you're in boot camp, or in formation, you'll be standing at "attention." Get it? "attention!" Means you're not moving, not talking, hands on your sides, shutting up, all you're doing is standing there. Most times, it can be for hours! I have yet to hear that someone with ADHD is able to stand still for hours.
        But this site is full of hippies who will never understand, so this conversation is over.

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        • Gamesrfun99

          I have ADHD and after rereading it i understand people me would not be able to do what your talking Bout. Would i be able to join the army as a doctor

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          • fissionmailed

            Well believe it or not, doctors go out there in the combat as well. One of my buddies is a medic and he's out in the field with the infantry. Now I don't know how the Army works, I was in the Marine Corps, but from my experience, you can go to the war no matter what you are. And watching one of your buddies or just anybody die is the worst thing you'll ever see in your life, I worry about how someone with ADHD would handle that.
            Mean you can talk to a local recruiter and see what he/she can do for you, if it's what you really wanna do. I'm not trying to discourage you from joining or anything, I'm just letting you know from my point of view and experience.

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    • smootht3r3z1

      Not being able to focus, and just not knowing the right discipline to keep yourself attentive are two different things. I expect to learn the latter.

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  • I dont think the military wont except you for adhd. Its way too common. adhd is just a personality trait.

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    • smootht3r3z1

      It is common. And yes, they will bar you from entry for it.

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      • I am suprised they wont let you in the military for it because I know 2 guys in the military who have diagnosed mental disorders. One has bipolar and the other has aspergers. ADHD is way more common than either of those and is also a common cooccuring disorder with both of those.

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        • smootht3r3z1

          Dunno bud. I'm going on policies for adhd here. Not any other disorder.

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  • Nokiot9

    They keep anyone out that is on a prescription that can Impair their normal behavior. Insomnia, depression, ADHD, lupus, and tons of other things. They're all disqualifying attributes. Next time u sign up just keep ur mouth shut. They can't prove u have ADHD

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  • jessicatdg1rl

    Although I understand that not all people diagnosed with ADHD actually have it, I AM confident I have it, as I am a total wreck without my medicine for it. Call me what you will. Maybe it's just me, but I think that if someone with UNTREATED ADHD joined the military, they wouldn't last long. At least, that's what would happen to me. You have to have extreme focus in the military, and ADHD is technically the absence of focus.

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  • surrealismatter

    Its not a fucking lie. Adhd is a real mental disorder that often manifests itself through rogue behavior. Yes, it IS over-diagnosed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It has caused me a fucking cruel crusade of bitter depression for years and years, and life seems as though it is off-white and i am maladjusted and abnormal. It is a chronic cognitive dysrhythmia, and it is actually not common to grow out of if you actually fucking have it. It sucks. It makes life a lot harder to live in full function and thoroughness. Its not necessarily so hindering that it makes people blindly incompetent and incapable, however. While it is something to suffer, people with it are usually able to fight for their own success if they really want it, and i think that military role is absolutely fucking ridiculous. Just because its more difficult for us to pay attention does not mean we are incapable of handling that occupation.

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  • 1000yrVampireKing

    I looked up the requirements and it says people with ADD/ADHD can join. However they can not be taking any medication for this type of disorder. So anyone on medication are not suppose to join.

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  • 1000yrVampireKing

    That is complete bull shit. I think they are just looking for reasons not to take people since the economy. Many people are misdiagnosed. So it is bull shit they would reject you for this kind of shit. ADD/ADHD is something that seems to happen in all children. So apparently all children are born ill. Most children are hyper and that is perfectly normal. If a kid is fat and out of shape most likely not. Plus according to the supposed doctors it usually goes away. So that is like saying you can not stay in since you have a cold. ADD/ADHD is something that does not go away unless you have order and structure. Something that is drilled and taught by the military. I can not believe they would really reject people for this pharmaceutical invented lie! THIS IS FUCKING SHIT!

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  • lc1988

    Ugh that sucks. The military should do its own evaluation instead of relying on diagnoses from doctors on the outside shelling out trivial disorders. I'm in the same boat but unfortunately, diabetes doesn't go away. This is beside the point but there's a correlation between Medicaid and ADHD meds. "My kid is too hyper so let's get concerta on the tax payers yaaaaa" Not saying at all that's your case but it ticks me off.

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  • Moonbow

    Would you want someone with ADHD walking around with a freaking assault rifle?

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    • Gamesrfun99

      Your retarted!!!!! I have adhd and i go shooting with my dad all the time

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    • smootht3r3z1

      They'll forget to shoot. Haha.

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      • Moonbow

        Either that or they'll turn around and blow away their own freaking unit -- people with these pseudo-conditions like ADHD are always put on some kind of mind-altering drugs when they're kids that make them crazy when they're older.

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        • smootht3r3z1

          That is the most ignorant thing I've heard today. You got a source?

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  • VioletTrees

    It's very possible that you were misdiagnosed; however, ADHD is a real disorder that has a huge effect on some people's lives, including mine.

    Anyway, what country are you in? My understanding is that while the US military used to exclude people with ADHD, they no longer do unless you've been on medication sometime in the past year or currently show symptoms of ADHD. It's still kind of ableist bullshit, though.

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    • smootht3r3z1

      Even if you have been diagnosed at the age of 3, a diagnosis is a diagnosis. You must be reevaluated. Period. By your own means out of pocket.

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      • VioletTrees

        Ugh, that's fucked up. They should at least provide reevaluation.

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  • dirtybirdy

    Ya of course they won't take you with issues but they will send you home with them. Any respect i did have for the military is gone, particularly the marines. I won't say why.

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    • smootht3r3z1

      I'm curious though. Hope you do tell your story.

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