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I see some women dress their dogs in cloths and openly say this is my baby. One person I know openly said she thinks of her dog as her daughter. I know many women who treat their dogs as children and love them as their own children. Do you think Dogs or Pets in general are replacing kids?
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At least these mutant people are amusing themselves with animals, and not spawning more children.
Why not?
I see it. I think it's odd. But do I really care; no. At least they love the poor thing, which is better than neglecting it.
I know a few guys that have a dog or cat and claim it their actual child, celebrate its bday and make fb pages for them. I think its a bit weird, but its not hurting anyone so I don't really care, at least the animals are well loved.
Never treat a pet like a human they will be more annoying and they are not supposed to eat stuff like candy so technically their "love" is killing them ( Note i mostly talk about dogs )
No. I don't think they're actively replacing children, but I do think those kind of people are pathetic. Personal opinion.
You can lock the animal in the bathroom with a ton of food and water, then go on vacation... Not with kids tho, kids are needy. Lol, just a... FYI that was a joke... But animals are easier and cheaper to care for... You shouldn't have children until financially and mentally able, your in it for at least 18 years, or 25 years now a days
I gave my fiance 2 cats instead of kids because I hate children but love animals she refers to them as her daughters and us as mom and dad to them but that doesnt bother me they do fight like kids sometimes tho
Any person that thinks their dog is a baby has obviously never had a baby. Probably cuz their such wierdo's they can't get a man.
Well, I'm NEVER going to have a baby, and I've certainly had offers. I'm not a weirdo for wanting my own life, rather than having to take care of an ungrateful human being for the next 18-plus years.
I 100% agree with you, I don't babies either. You're only a weirdo if instead of a baby you have a dog, and then pretend its a baby.
It is strange to pretend the dog/cat is a human baby. Suggests being mentally unbalanced somewhat.
That being said I completely agree with MahBoi, I would most likely prefer an animal over a human any time. At least the animal isnt gonna lie to me or steal from me. Cant say that about the human. Besides people have screwed up this planet enough and its only been a few million years since we evolved.
Yes its normal.
Its one of those things that the whole family knows about but nobody will say anything about it, like Aunt Sally being an alcoholic. Everyone knows and sees Dogs for example being the center of families and women acknowledging them as their children but nobody will dare say anything about it. After all, who has the right to come between a woman and her child?
I know someone refers to their cats as their "babies". And they actually have tried to get pregnant and failed. But I think they would keep and love their cats regardless. I don't think its that common and its not "the same thing"
Why does it matter? This is only a problem if a pet means more to someone than their own child does. Most people who are like this have either had children that moved out, have not had children yet, or do not want children. Humans love companionship and pets come without some of the bullshit you get with another human. I would be more concerned about those who treat their pets like trash than those who would do anything for them.
Why does it matter?
Because people matter.
There is a problem when people have more compassion for a dog than they do their fellow man. When people are more moved by the death of a stray dog than the death of a homeless man.
There used to be a saying, that being treated like a dog was a bad thing. Now-a-days people wish they were treated with the respect and love by their fellow man bestows on dogs.
Why does it matter? Because human beings matter. There is a problem when being treated like a dog means being treated better than a human being.
Human beings do NOT matter. I don't matter, you don't matter, human beings are shit. Human beings completely fucked themselves up. I will always prefer an animal over a human being.
In all honesty I understand exactly where you are coming from, but I also dont completely agree with it. People who view their pets as being human children are completely misguided and often times a little unbalanced. Animals are animals and people are people. That being said animals most certainly bond with their masters and I know that my own dog would protect me if necessary, perhaps even give his life if he felt I was threatened to that extent. The fact that dogs have been shown to do that means they form a strong bond with humans. We assume as humans because animals arent as intelligent as we are that they dont feel the same or similar states of being that we do. Wouldnt you protect your children if there was danger, wouldnt they do the same for you (provided they were old enough to understand)? Those are the same basic actions being taken by 2 different species, yet people want to separate them only because we have become so arrogant and so self assured of our dominance and entitlement to life and this planet that the idea of animals and humans showing the same behavior has to be some fluke and there has to be an explanation that doesnt involve an animal showing a quality that we feel only humans can show. Perhaps the animal did love its master and was willing to do anything to protect him? I dont know for sure, but I do know one thing for sure, YOU dont know for sure either.
Your analogy with the homeless man was a good one, lets explore it more. The homeless man and stray dog both find themselves in similar positions, now that man could have become homeless by no fault of his own, he had all his possessions taken from him, lost his job, wife left him, etc...or he could have subconsciously dictated his life take that turn by drinking himself into that position, stealing from his company to lose his job, getting sent to prison so everyone in his life abandoned him and he then finds himself living on the street, in some ways an argument can be made that he deserves his fate no?
Now take the stray dog, the stray dog hasnt done, isnt even capable of any of what I mentioned, it wouldnt steal, wouldnt harbor unfounded hatred (unless it was abused, which isnt its fault either) wouldnt harbor jealousy, wouldnt find the need to be over competitive to anything. Its just a dog, it embodies many of the qualities man find admirable, yet holds none of the failings. People find it easy to dismiss animals as lower life forms only because of our intelligence. That is a mistake.
the "bullshit" is part of the human experience. that's why categorizing a dog as your child is foolish and inappropriate. It is the naiveté of children and the selfish to desire/expect/pursue life without bullshit. It's why we have men who don't care for their families, and women who are waiting for their husband to be a husband. We cannot escape the pain associated with humanity. Love your animals. Find solace and comfort from them. Just don't artificially elevate them to be what they are not.
Treat your animals with love and kindness, and care for them. HOWEVER, this is such a pet peeve (no pun intended)! It is a categorical fallacy to elevate pets to human status. They cannot appreciate, eat birthday cake, clean the bathroom, etc, etc, etc. They don't "LOVE" you. They are mastered by you. Hopefully, you are a good master, showing them value by grooming, and caring, and feeding and attending to their needs, but THEY ARE NOT CHILDREN. They cannot grow up to be scientists who find cures for infectious diseases. They will not invent a new car engine that gets 100mpg. They are their own category. In mis-categorizing them to what they are NOT, you dishonor what they ARE. And, you show an immense amount of human arrogance by assuming that "to be human is to be better." To be human is to be uniquely human. To be hamster is to be uniquely hamster. To be canine is to be uniquely canine. And to be feline is to be...well, unfortunate! (sorry for the levity - kind of!)
COMMON? yes
NORMAL? hell no!
Well when people say their pet is their child, they mean it.
We might humour them and go along with it, but in all seriousness they truly feel in their heart that, that animal is their son or daughter.
These people will argue that their pet [son or daughter] loves them just as much and even more than any human has ever done.
Oh, I know they mean it. I'm just saying they are idiots! Dogs do not love. Dogs obey. There should be no shortage to the love and care given to one's pets. I argue philosophically against the miscategorization of pets to human status. That's called anthropomorphism. It also weakens what it means to be human and artificially elevates the status of animals. It is a categorical fallacy. Celebrate what they are, but don't call them "your children."
I prefer my sweet cats and gerbil. They ARE my babies, as I have no desire for human children. Sure they get on my nerves on occasion, but it's so worth it, for me at least.
In all honesty I dont see a problem with treating a pet as you would a child with certain limitations that is. Its really no one's business what you do in regards to this, unless you have other members of your household that you effect negatively (children being neglected for example) to take care of a dog or cat. Its also not normal to love animals so much that you begin hoarding them, say 10 large dogs in a 2 bedroom house. Thats dangerous to the person doing it and perhaps society in general as those dogs would almost certainly begin reverting back to wild behaviors instead of domestication.
I am not married and have no kids, but I do have a dog I rescued. I wouldnt say I treat him totally as I would a child, but I do have a very strong bond with him and would probably put my own life at risk to protect him if I had to. If that seems crazy then call me crazy. I also would probably hesistate to do that for a stranger's child as I just dont have the same type of bond. Thats not saying I would wish harm on the child, I just dont have an attachment to them as I do to my dog.
Its also pertinent to note that my dog will never lie to me, never steal from me, never betray me, and will always relish being in my company.
Can ever single parent in the world say the same thing when talking about their children? Would I as an outsider be able to trust them or their children as I can my own dog?
I know its sort of a strange argument to make, comparing humans to animals, almost like apples to oranges, but I think its important to mention.
Ya, its kind of odd but maybe they can't have kids. Maybe they had a young child die. Maybe they're crazy. Maybe they have always had animals around growing up. Maybe the dog told them to do it. Who knows, but it happens alot
I think the above comment is normal. But not so if the animal is replacing the child and the child is therefore neglected because the animal is easier to care for.
There was a time when humans considered themselves to be the Masters of their Pets.
Then Pets were more equals as "Part of the Family".
Now Humans serve Pets, and Pets are the Masters.
Follow the deeds.
Then Pets worked to protect and serve humans, we were their masters, they obeyed us or else.
Now Pets do nothing, humans serve them as we would serve Kings. We groom them, clothe them, purchase expensive food for them or even give them our own food when they demand it. When they summon us to feed them we do so by hand gladly. We let them urinate and poop on our floors and we clean it up. They lick their asses and two seconds later lick our faces and we smile. They rule our homes and dictate when they will go out and when they will come in, and we serve them and obey. We demand of our children but make no demands of our pets, indeed our masters.
Long live Fido, I bow to thee ohh Master!