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Whenever I see obese people, it just makes me angry. I don't understand how people let themselves go so badly. Obviously some might have a weird medical thing, but seriously the obesity rate is out of hand. Especially morbidly obese people make me full of rage and disgust.
Fat shaming is the last acceptable prejudice.
Prejudice comes from ignorance.
Obesity starts with genetic and developmental bases which is compounded by physical, emotional and societal issues. It also comes from living in an environment with the obesity promoting effects of the food industry.
The relationship between food intake and calorie expenditure is way more complex than the "calories in, calories burned" equation. Our bodies have hundreds evolutionary mechanisms (genes) which have been honed to protect us against starvation and unpredictable food supplies. Any sort of stress (including emotional stress)on an individual causes those mechanisms to start hoarding energy. Not only that, but we live in a completely different world today than we did for the thousands and thousands of years while we were evolving. We now have access to food in abundance.The least expensive food available is processed and modified beyond recognition, leaving little to no real nutritional value - just sugar, salt, and fat.
To add to this equation there are other things to consider... there's a person's age, their job, their upbringing, who their friends are, or what neighbourhood they live in. All of these things contribute to the choices a person makes. For a lot of obese people, food is the only pleasant experience they have going on in their lives. Many obese people are depressed, even if they don't show it, and that depression is exacerbated by the shaming society throws at them. Stigmatizing can actually cause obesity.
Hating fat people is like hating any other social group; it's good for neither the object of hatred, nor for the people doing the hating.
Here is an important thing to remember: Everyone is different. Some people are fat and fit; some are lean and unhealthy. And yes, for some their weight is a health issue. Some people are unhappy with their weight; others don’t care. Regardless of anyone’s situation, it is no else’s place to judge.
Are you obese yourself? This sounds like some of the fat pride banter i have read. Giving excuses for people to be fat.
It sure isnt a excuse but it does piss me off that i have to fight temptation everywhere just to stay healthy. Back in the day ppl just ate what they had, natural healthy foods
Fight temptation? Every grocery store has fresh vegetables and healthy meats and fruit available. Temptations??? Are you serious?? Some people live where they are not sure they will eat everyday. Your pissed off that you live where there is too much food that is unhealthy to choose from. Well there is a lot of good food to choose as well. If you can't fight temptation then that is nobody else'sfault but your own.
Obese people piss me off too sometimes, i mean do whatever you want, if you want to be fat, be fat, who cares? Its when an obese person starts spewing out bullshit about how hard it is to be fat, its like listening to a meth smoker talking about how hard it is to keep a job or sleep regularly. Yuh no shit, quit your vice if it bothers you so much. I also hate when theyre anti drugs as if theyre any better than any other fiend. Strap an obese person to a hospital bed and give them an IV and theyll start kicking and screaming just like any other addict. Not that its good or bad, just accept what you are and be that. If you're a fat fuck youre a fat fuck.
They should accept being a fat fuck and not do anything to change? Maybe thats the way to go, I seen so many fat people try and lose weight but they have no dedication. They do tiny workouts for 1 week then make excuses and stop exercising completely. They even have trainers, I know bodybuilders and they all say success rate with fat people is virtually none, they give up so easily. There to pussy they dont want to feel pain or put in the effort. In my lifetime I seen 0 success rate with fat people unless they cheated like got surgury. Do you think we should give up on fat people?
Some people can't help being obese.
They already feel bad enough as it is, they don't need people bringing them down more, that won't help anything.
This is bullshit made up by the majority, no ones saying these things about crackheads but say one bad thing about a fat guy and suddenly you're an asshole? I used to work for a small store and let me tell you it takes fucking effort and dedication to become obese, baskets FULL of candy pastries and sodas, or even if theyre just buying a newspaper they cant forget to buy a candy bar or three, how do they not see themselves doing this? I had a guy buy SIX milkyways for his teenage son, FUCKING SIX. I would probably throw up after eating that, and im not even healthy by any stretch of the imagination.
You just explained phil robertson in different terms. Oh you cant talk about gays like that. Yet it says exactly that gays are wrong in the bible.
This world is a joke. we wont be around much longer with these mindless sheep wandering astray. Ban a good man and actor because he insulted gays. well maybe we shouldnt sell bibles anymore either because jesus spoke a LOT more about gays than phil. The bible has the most historically correct info contained with in its covers than man has ever known.
*sighs* now i get to wait for the sheep to bash me with retarded logic! yay
Well, I was just trying to state that some obese people are obese due to disorders, or health problems, and if are trying to lose weight, but can't, then it's really not their fault.
However, if obese people purposely eat unhealthy foods such as candy or junk food, and aren't trying to get more healthy than there really isn't no helping them.
Also, I never brought up crackheads.
I can't think of many health problems that can cause someone to balloon up to the 300 to 600 pound range except for maybe suicidal depression.
The "some people" you mentioned is a very small minority, I was talking about the arguement for obesity in general so i passed it off, but yeah youre right there are people that really cant help it.
That is a very, very small number of people. I was comparong the general opinion on crackheads to the general opinion on obesity but I realize now after reading your comment again you meant helpless fat people specifically.
Its not hard all you need to do is exercise and eat less and healthier food. But the problem is fat people have no motivation or dedication. The first sign of pain and there ready to quit for good. They arent helpless, its so easy to lose weight. They just need to man up and stop being wussys and take the pain.
I dont buy that. Its really not hard. Eat less calories than you burn and you'll lose weight. I hate excuses like this!!!
Edit: maybe outside pressure will help them realize they have a problem they need to change. I don't make fun of obese people to their face or anything, but inside they make me sick.
"they make me sick".... keeps your weight down then.
But seriously, you Know that someone elses weight is none of your business! Why would you bother feeling angry about this? What's it to you?
It's just that in a general sense, any time you hear somebody putting another person/group down for no apparent reason, it's an obvious attempt to make themselves feel or look better by comparison. Kids do this.
Do you put a lot of effort into being healthy yourself?
Because fat people are everywhere and he has to constantly look at them destroy themselves. He just hates looking at fat people they arent good to look at. Hes not trying to make himself feel better hes just tired of looking at fat people. I put alot of effort into being healthy, its easy all you need to do is exercise and eat healthy.
Are you fat? Most fat defenders are fat so they cant see from a fit persons point of view. Put yourself in a fit persons shoes and then look at a bunch of fat people.
It's possible to be fit and healthy without looking down at every fat person you see! Also, I strongly doubt that you/OP care about their health.
I put a lot of effort into maintaining my car. But if somebody wants to drive around in an old bomb and that made me angry, would that be a reasonable response, do you think?
This wouldn't affect my opinion but as you asked, I am thin but not fit. I suspect that if I spent hours in the gym, got into real good shape etc, I would have to make sure to also CHECK MY EGO! It's entirely possible that my natural childish, unhindered response may be to look down on other people who haven't put in the effort I did:
1) To justify myself doing it - I mean, other people don't care about fitness, but I have to justify its importance because I've put in all that effort.
2) I want to make myself somehow feel better than others, because I deserve something for all my effort.
3) I'm comparing myself to others. Now that I think I'm hot shit, everyone else looks more flabby than they used to, just by comparison.
But I wouldn't believe these things because that would make me an asshole!!
Do you think you/OP's reaction to fat people is that of a well balanced and psychologically mature human being?
Why do you think in this case you have any right to expect someone else to live up to your standards?
Im not an asshole I just have no respect for people who dont care at all about there bodies. How can I respect someone who doesnt even respect themselves.
I dont do it to feel better about myself or feel or act superior just everytime I look at them I feel disgusted. I dont like anything about fat people. There gross primitive humans, who throw there lives away. I dont expect them to live up to my standards I expect them to take minor efforts to maintain there appearence so I dont have to be discusted upon looking at them.
But yes OBESE people make me sick. I would rather die then be with a 300 pound chick. Just statin my mind. no harm done
Well im sorry you were blessed with a higher genetic metabolism as mine is garbage. I am strong and fat. I can squat 355 and bench 225 and i have like 30% body fat 47% muscle
its all talk till yall git sittin next to some fat bastard on one a them there flyin machines
It's normal, but I disagree. It isn't just about having the will power to eat less and move more.
I think a lot of it has do to with what you eat, and taking into account that foods that are easy to store and foods that, I believe, are cheap are the ones likely to make you fat, you might want to view it differently.
Viewing it as a problem of not being able to afford healthy foods, rather than not making the effort to eat less, makes me want to blame fat people less.
There is also the matter of dietary recommendations perhaps dishing out harmful advice. If you take that into account, you may want to put even less blame on fat people.
It's no different to being a drug addict or alcoholic, we live in an instant gratification society because we had parents to lazy to raise us.
I concur.
Unless they A) Have some strange condition which causes them to gain lots of weight that gets out of control ~or~ B) They are currently working on losing weight, I don't have sympathy for them.
The obesity rate is getting out of hand but to be honest you don't know if these obese people are working on getting better or not.
It isn't that difficult to get to that stage either. I go spend time with a lot of friends and they are always cooking. When I'm with my Indian friends you are kind of obliged to eat the amazing food they just cooked even if you weren't expecting it. Then with other friends sometimes you are obliged to drink. Social engagements can become just one opportunity to fatten up after another if you're not careful.
Excuses. These are all excuses. If someone wants to be be healthy, they can. Indulging in a social situation occasionally doesn't make someone 400 pounds, indulging CONTINUOUSLY does. And that's what drives me nuts - you dont become obese overnight, when you start gaining weight just turn your habits around!!
Exactly, there is NO practical reason or excuse, yet they get so much empathy and support, it makes no fucking sense. Everyone else with an indulgence issue is spat on by society but a fat persons struggle is applauded, why? I'll never understand the stupidity of society as a whole.
This is so stupid. Like I'm a fat ass bitch. Go throw up if you need to because the mere sight of me is so disgusting. You want to know why I'm fat? Great it's none of your fucking business. I don't want sympathy or understanding you know why it's my fucking body I live in it, I don't nor does any fat ass on this earth have to answer to a bitch when they throw a snickers in the grocery cart I do just what the fuck I please and unless you are a fucking perfect person direct your judgement to fix your own mother fucking problems and leave everyone else the fuck alone. You got one life and you have plenty more things that could light a fire under your ass than someone carrying more percent of body fat than you find appropriate ya hear great.
Are you kidding? I'm skinny and I don't even starve myself and you don't even know the things I hear. Maybe it's because I barely ever complain about it.
im not saying EVERYONE whos thin starves themselves. heck, my best friend is under 80 pounds and she eats more than i do! im saying that when people go on crazy quick fix fast diets nobody bats an eyelid wheras if someone decides to eat 10 bigmacs everyone would be apauled
I'm not overweight. I never have been overweight. I'm reading a lot of criticism of obese people, but I'm not reading any posts where people have actually tried losing weight themselves. Has anyone, who is posting on this topic, struggled with his/her weight? Have you tried weight loss programs? Did you have any success? What are this biggest hurdles with dieting?
I'd like to hear from someone who's experiencing problems with their weight if you're out there.
I feel disgust but this due to that fact that I've had anorexia, a phobia, and family issues. I know that it is not fair to judge and try to look at different possibilities. I have little to no sympathy for those eat unhealthy shit and consequently brought weight gain upon themselves. I have no sympathy towards parents who have allowed their children to become fat and make excuses for this. Etc. I do draw the line if the person is fat due to a health issue. Regardless, I don't tease people who are fat because it is very rude. I keep any negativity to myself. Then again, I have told fat people off but these "fat people" in question were family members and I lost my fucking cool.