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I'm a guy and me and my friends are really nice to each other...never fight...I see girls talk shit behind each other and act like bitches why?
I think it has a lot to do with socialization. Men are generally encouraged to express their anger, while women are generally discouraged. So when a guy gets mad at his friend hes going to show it, speak up, and deal with it accordingly. But sometimes when a girl feels wronged, hurt, or angered by her friend, she'll take a more passive aggressive route. Instead of facing the issue head on, she'll try to manipulate other people into disliking her 'opponent'.
I don't know what world you people live on, but half of the BOYS (teens-twenties) I've ever met had the same behavior of these passive aggressive girls. Men are not nicer. Women are not just bitches. It really depends on the individual; their assertiveness when in conflict.
What? No way are you being serious. If anything, expressing any sign of emotion while being a male is discouraged. If you get angered, you're seen as a "violent man", even if you haven't shown any violence. I was on cam to a group of people I knew (the woman was an adult, about in her early thirties, and her husband got angry, he raised his voice pretty high. Everyone in the chat was just like "Oh my God, we should make sure she's alright, make sure he isn't going to abuse her, etc". So if anything, a man is discouraged to show emotions, especially anger.
I've seen far more women take an aggresive route to their problems than I have men. Infact, I've seen more women fight eachother than I have seen men fight.
I dislike the whole "everybody is equally nice by default" idea you have here. If the majority of people are saying the majority of nice people they meet are men, then that should give quite the push of point that the majority of men are nicer?
Sure, it doesn't "prove" 100% that men are nicer in general, but it does give more of an edge than saying we're all equally nice or women are nicer than men. Afterall, the people are giving their opinions from their relationships with men and women, all from different places.
I think the whole reason behind this is the gender mind sets. Women tend to be more emotional, so you are limited to the amount of things you can say or be at risk of offendeing the female, where as males don't have that problem, and you don't need to worry about offending them as much as you do females, so there is not as much limitless social encounters as you would have to watch what you say when being social with a female. I'm not saying all females are like this, but women are naturally more emotional, so the majority would be like this.
Woah woah woah. Your treading a different path here. Your using the example of a man expressing anger towards his wife; it's just not the same ball field. This post is about male and female groups of friends.
I agree with you, boys aren't encouraged to show emotion. All but one of course, which is anger. I mean come on, this is a social necessity and always has been. Which emotion do you suppose fuels a man to defend his property, his family, and his country; which he is in fact expected to do.
And no way are you being serious, implying that a majorities' view is the accurate one [not to say that there should be unanimous agreement]. The pleasant people I have met have had similar qualities: assertive, humorous, creative, open minded, deep thinkers. They were just well balanced individuals. I can't say that they've mostly been men, because they have not.
Women have larger limbic systems for biological purposes. Being emotionally inclined does not make you an insecure, malicious person, k? Who you are as an individual and how you were treated, is really the key determinant of how "nice" or "bitchy" you are.
Well, in that case I will share another situation I had witnessed. There was this student called James. I know about him, but he didn't interest me enough to really get to know him. He got angered easily, and when he got angered, people would say he was violent, even though he would just raise his voice, etc.
I would scratch property out of that scenario. Men have been charged for assault just for defending his property from theives, etc. As for the other two parts, that is true. But, why is that? It's because it is anger for the benefit for everyone else except the man himself. He is only allowed to be angered if it isn't in his benefit, otherwise he is "violent".
I never said all women are like this, and I have no doubts you have met nicer women. My point is that the majority have said that th majority of nice people they have met that are nice are men...You can see that on this poll's comments.
I never said they were malicious or insicure, I'm not just talking about jokes against them, I have seen women get angered for jokes that weren't even about them, and that does happen. Being more emotional doesn't just mean being more nice.
It isn't as simple as their upbringing, it also involves the gender mind set.
I wouldn't scratch property out of anything. You can squeal all you'd like about burglars suing property owners for bodily harm, but that's a matter of the state judicial system. What are you saying? A guy sees some stranger in his house with a ski mask on and instinctively thinks "golly gosh I should lay down and put my hands over my ears because I wouldn't want to be the reason he slips and dislocates a disk". No.
Anger is an irrational response to a rational problem. A man's anger benefits himself rather greatly in time of peril. Where is his courage without anger? James had a little attitude problem (anger without warrant). "Rational" people calm their fears and anger, because they know they are but fleeting emotions. How is Jame's overzealous reaction much different than a loose-lipped high school girl's?
The majority is not I my friend. I've encountered too many people, personalities, and life stories, to simply think that people are either this or that.
Pardon my quoting but when you said "Women tend to be more emotional, so you are limited to the amount of things you can say or be at risk of offendeing the female" your implying that most (oh dear not all) women tend to be so insecure that you can't risk having a conversation with them without them being gravely offended and "talk[ing] shit...and act[ing] like bitches" [which is what this post is about]. And I quote "the majority would be like this". And on top of that you just said this personality FLAW is an inherent attribute of the female gender. Hell to the nah dawg. lol. Those are just some dumb high school bitches.
Haha sorry for this whole rant like post. I just get kind of irked when people make what I feel are gross generalizations. I'll end now with one of my observations which you may or may not have noticed or agree with: many women are self-haters. I'd elaborate but thats just a whole notha level.
Bitches will be bitches.
But trust me, dudes will talk behind your back too.
NOT all women are like this! I'm a woman and I despise that kind. Men are more relaxed and not so FREAKING UPTIGHT! Where I work 90% of the women are uptight and talk behind other workers backs but when a guy comes to work there ALL the women treat him like he's the best thing ever. It's so annoying. They're bitchy and rude to other women but act like they've never seen a man before when we work with one. Women like that are annoying and self-centered beings who need to be put in a room together to fight it out.
When a man doesn't like someone, he is pretty up-front about it. Men generally don't fake friendship for the sake of retarded social rules and I have seen men flat out tell other men "You are stupid as hell".
Not all women are like this. The women you talk about are generally very negative creatures and negative women tend to express their negativity in different manners from the way men do.
Besides, men are usually pleasant if you are not presenting a threat to them, which is something women typically tend not to do.
Then there are those that plan tactician style, at eliminating opponents. Boys and men, women and girls are too different types of animal. Speaking from the social interaction view though girls and boys relate differently to each other from youth. Boys socially have a hierarchy that is established in a group. The leader will take aggression openly from those on the rise around him. The rest will be content to be in the pack as their rank denotes. So boys do deal with their emotion almost outright and fast with each other, to establish group organization.
Girls on the other hand deal more passively. They make eye contact but the eyes learn to lie and it has been shown in studies that girls learn to verbalize and are more linguistically adept by grade school then boys are. This means they are much more developed socially and tend to use it more deviously then boys do. This does mean the manipulation of those around to attack one rival. Girls are more democratically orientated then boys. All will vote for something to change in a female group instead of as in the male groups, where what the leader says usually goes and any who try to challenge will face confrontation
This goes all the way into adulthood.
I don't know I have no friends. haha jk but I see what you're saying however I don't quite understand it I'm always the one among my friends to take neither side. Gossip makes me feel uncomfortable which is why I feel more comfortable around guys but there are some cool girls out there too.
On a side note I don't know how guys interact with guys I've seen a few disputes but guys tend to just lay it all out attacking each others egos instead of talking behind peoples back and turning everyone against one person.
bitches will be bitches and guys take it out on each other constantly through ball busting kinda being an asshole to one another is an indirect way to talk shit with out going behind any ones back so long as you don't take the ball busting to far girls are just mean and some of them i don't know why there friends with each other because they talk shit like they wanna kill the other bitch you know what im sayin
Hiya,
I'm a woman, and men tend to share my interests more. I love music, and fantasy novels –- so much so I write my own stories with made-up songs in. Most of the women I’ve come into contact with don't like any of that – they tend to be a certain type who don't seem to be interested in anything much, so they don't get my level of obsession.
Men seem to get on with things without getting stressed either. I never feel like something is lacking in my life when I talk to men, but when I talk to women (maybe just that certain type) I almost always do.
I love to read science fiction, fantasy and have taken part in creating my own web of plots here and there. Though most have sadly been misplaced and took my soul with each one that I contributed mass ideas to, and then lost all in successive blows that slowly drained all my spirit from writing. I have been recuperating for some time now. Maybe some time here in the near future...
I would have to agree. I grew up with female friends in different locations, but as soon as I started being friends with males, I noticed a big difference between female friends and male friends.
I'm a girl, and I never do that. I much prefer being around guys because I feel like they're nicer and have more fun too. Well, that and I'm a gamer. XD I honestly don't have any friends that are girls. I don't really get along that well with them, and have tonnes of guy friends.
Haha, that depends. People don't usually think goths are hot, unless you're a goth. XD
This is me. :)
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It depends on how you look at it. You could also look at it like your friends don't care about you enough to be concerned. <-- Personally, I wouldn't agree with that. It's just an example of perspective.
Women show their feelings differently than men. That's all.
On the inside; we're all the same asshole/best friend.