Is it normal that i think the el paso shooter is probably..

Um, WHAT?!

I think that all of the people responding to this thread are the same person with different accounts made within days of each other. And that they are all incels too.

Since incel became a thing I've noticed that many shooters have been unlayable. Columbine and the theatre shooting in Colorado are examples of incels snapping.

Rejection is hard and sucks, i don't blame incels for going a bit whacko
.

I think it's a red herring to scapegoat incels. Lying-by-omission is a scientifically-recognised form of intentional-deception. The lie of omission here, is that the women and trends of behaviour amongst them these days isn't something that both carries more weight and influence widespread throughout society, and harms massively, with little punishment versus the male equivalent behaviour. Women are FAR more lied-about, and who does that actually HELP in the long-run? It's done because, for example, who wants to hate their own mother's true cruel nature (towards others even if not towards her children)? What if she acts badly? No-one, and every female is treated as a potential mother, as 94% of them WILL eventually become one... Biology is lied-about when it's right under our noses in plain sight... and lied-about because then people have an excuse not to challenge the REAL power in society. Read 'The Myth Of Male Power' by Warren Farrell, and 'The Manipulated Man' by Esther Villar (1972 I think... nothing's biologically-changed in that blink of an eye of human-evolution). Overall, it's HUGE bias.
I'm mildly Autistic myself, but have slept with a number of women, and know my way around the female anatomy. Let me tell you - EVEN if one is dedicated to their pleasure, they (in Western society, elsewhere is varying) are really disrespectful of men, overall. Men are disposable to them, like an appliance. Remember, you'll not see this admitted-to, perhaps even by themselves, but self-delusion is a thing, face it.
The most plausible liar is the one who believes their own lies (is their likely rationale)...
This issue goes deep.
The incel rage is a mere symptom of them being the least beneficiary from this warped, sick society's reproductive/sexual/power setup.
They are a SYMPTOM, not the problem.
I might yet write a book on this, have detailed notes, and well, just watch the Red Pill movie by Cassie Jaye, she is lovely for being real, it's incredibly attractive. Strangely enough men don't find fighting the ones they're trying to have sex with, worthwhile... so if the ones they are trying to have sex with INSIST upon a lie - the men will go along with that lie (harming and stressing their psyche, and look at drug-use statistics these days... any link?) - because men need to get laid. Women have that power. Feminists lie about it. Critics of incels lie about it.
Autistic spectrum does not inherently equal incel (don't you DARE start abusing AS people for being born that way, that itself is what causes them to be angry and anti-social if they are born innocent which they we ARE - society teaches us what it does, NOT the other way round).:
However, in an ANTI-MALE SOCIETY, the "Extreme MALE Brain" quote: Simon Baron Cohen is the most likely to be the FIRST symptom of ANTI-MALE BIAS AND ABUSE IN SOCIETY.
Compare: even an ugly and worthless female, near 100%-equivalent to an incel in all regards, is treated better. Go look around or find any studies as they DO exist IIRC. My reference notes are elsewhere at the moment (not in the cloud). If that is true - WHY?

All incels might want is like me: "Do NOT LIE TO US THAT MALES AND FEMALES ARE *EQUAL* WHEN WE FEEL DEEPLY THAT THEY ARE NOT FROM HARD LIFE EXPERIENCE".
It's one thing this reality being there, it's another to GASLIGHT US ABOUT IT.
Speaking as someone who has females (who're likely ON the Autistic Spectrum themselves) constantly gaslighting the male members of the family (non-diagnosed ones just go along with it for an easier life, otherwise the females will bully them, and this is a CHOICE of aggression-as-a-tool by those females, and they SHOULD be punished for it. Yet society disagrees so much that it's near-impossible to catch them at it, get others to help punish them, yet reverse the genders, even with the man in the absolute RIGHT, ethically, logically, morally, whatever... and he gets shat on. Most men accept payment in SEX to tolerate this, and learn to navigate a life by LYING CONSTANTLY. Which wastes their mental energies, to be honest. Just so that women don't have to live in reality and be judged EQUALLY as men would be.
This is NOT just in my (perhaps more extreme) family, it is widespread.
Feminists may have liberated women, but they didn't arm them with the tools to handle power with HONOUR - whilst forcing men to submit to this ethical standard without the privileges of the past.
Incels get a shitty deal under that, and are rightfully angry about it.
Those who discuss the issue without stating this obvious fact, are liars and part of the problem MORE than the incels.
They deserve punishment, and which scientist says that psychological violence (female typical method) is worse than physical violence (male traditional method, now men act like weak women and use two-faced lying, manipulating and the like... for the better? Who knows... but look at the pent-up anger all around - vaguely-relieved by sex, but at the cost of a man's self-respect, ultimately. Oh and scientists who have studied fMRI scans of human brains subject to aggression stimuli, have concluded that the same areas light up to the same degree for PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL violence. IIRC.
Anyone who's ever felt sick to their stomach at the psychological abuses of others will know it to be true.
Incels are a symptom.
The discussion of incels is a further symptom - that of a society too plain cowardly to tell the truth about cause-and-effect of male violence and how females ARE responsible for part of it, if not a huge amount of it. Otherwise, if males are just supposed to self-control under ANY adverse circumstances, THEN under 'equality', so are women. Yet that is FAR from the social standard, so what's a self-respecting, RATIONAL man to do? Accept payment in sex, or lash-out at those who abuse him implicitly, inherently, psychologically, daily and also physically via the hands of other men that they control. Females learn to do this from an early age.
Go study it if you don't believe me.
Read 'The Emperor's New Clothes' by Hans Christian Andersen. Just because the majority believes something, doesn't make it anywhere NEAR the truth. Face it.