Is it normal that i think charles manson should die?

It is Unethical to impose a death sentence (capital punishment) even on creeps like Charles Manson.
We could, Ethically, legalize assisted suicide (for scumbags) and convince him to make the right decision.
This scumbag has now cost the taxpayers in the USA, about 1,880,000 dollars (2012 dollar equivalent) and counting, in incarceration costs alone. Court costs and prosecution costs on top of that.
Is it normal Charles Manson should die?

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Based on 50 votes (35 yes)
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Comments ( 45 )
  • wigsplitz

    He's clearly mentally ill, and the 'system' failed both him and us numerous times. Have you ever read about his life before his most famous crimes? I suggest you do. He should be in a mental hospital. I wouldn't let him out because of his cult status, he could easily create a repeat, but I wouldn't kill him because his situation is so complex and there's serious indications he has mental illness.

    I'll tell you what, let ALL non-violent drug offenders out and I'd more than gladly pay for any person who has been convicted of any violent crime to stay in prison. It makes me MORE sick to know that we can't keep people who have done physical harm to another person behind bars because we have to many people in there for selling or possessing drugs. FUCKING SICK. It would be a complete non-issue if we weren't locking non-violent drug offenders up.

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    • Frosties

      I don't understand why we lock up drug offenders at all. If they rob people to pay for drugs, then lock them up for robbery. If they take drugs but do no harm to anyone, what is the law interfering for?

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    • NeuroNeptunian

      ^This.

      I studied him pretty extensively in my Criminal Psychology class. I have a feeling that had the system not failed him as badly as it did and labeled him as a mentally retarded, delinquent son of a single-mother at such a young, impressionable age, there could have been hope, or at the very least, he would have stuck to petty crimes.

      A lot of people that are unfamiliar with Criminal Psychology just don't understand that most people are NORMAL and most NORMAL people couldn't kill another human being without even the slightest bit of guilt at the very least. People who kill others in our society are mentally disturbed in some way shape or form. Period. This man is mentally disturbed. He probably doesn't even feel that what he did was wrong and honestly, he'll be dead soon anyway. He's still useful as a case study, so long as he is locked up he will continue to be just a well-paid case-study for students like me.

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      • anti-hero

        "This man is mentally disturbed. He probably doesn't even feel that what he did was wrong..."

        Precisely.

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    • I agree with you somewhat. I find it incredible that there are persons who are in federal prisons, serving lengthy sentences, for minor posession of marijuana. They received these sentences only because of the jurisdiction that they were caught. If they were in another jurisdiction, they would have received perhaps a small misdemeanor fine.
      I have no remorse for people who push dangerous, addictive drugs, such as methamphetamine, cocaine, crack-cocaine and heroin. These are responsible for destroying millions of lives, causing thousands and thousands of murders and other violent crimes and causing millions of families grief. Why is it that this 'system' has so much trouble finding the drug kingpins responsible for this? Clearly our focus should be on these drug kingpins and not on small-time dealers, who get caught up in this 'system'.

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      • wigsplitz

        No, no , no...you cannot blame the drug seller, you can only blame the customer. Prohibition does NOT work. I hate that my money is spent on a useless and expensive war on drugs. Let people make their own choice.

        By being illegal, drugs are exponentially expensive, lining the pockets of violent criminals, and also very unsafe for the user. Not to mention innocent bystanders who get in the way of violent underground drug trade....bring it into the light and save lives.

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        • Darkoil

          I completely agree with all this.

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        • shade_ilmaendu

          Other countries have been calling the U.S. out left and right in the past few weeks. The War on Drugs is a failure. Not only is it clogging our prisons with victimless criminals, its creating the drug wars and the violence in mexico and other countries, contributing to countless deaths and turning people into criminals.

          Id have more to say but I'm tired as fuck and unable to arrange my thoughts any more coherently right now.

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  • anti-hero

    He never killed anyone. He only talked weak minded people into killing people.

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    • Maybe we should let him go then? He can come and stay with you. Set an extra plate for dinner tomorrow.

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      • anti-hero

        I say let him go. He is clearly mentally ill, he should be in a nut house not a prison cell. He has served enough time. I live on the other side of the country, so I don't think he would wanna come here. Plus I don't cook, so he would have meet me at a restaurant. I just don't understand why people think he is the worst guy on the planet. Not a good guy by any means but I could name 20 people far worse.

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        • anti-hero

          Also, you think we should talk people into killing themselves? and Charlie talked people into killing others. Not that far off in my book. In that case you are no better than Manson himself. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

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          • Firstly, I haven't conspired to kill anyone. Secondly, I have not aided and abetted any murders. Thirdly, I'm not advocating any murders, only allowimg those who have committed the most heinous crimes (without a shadow of a doubt and no feelings of remorse whatsoever) to make the right Ethical decision, such that they are no longer a burden on society, to end their own life.

            Please phone the restaurant and make reservations for yourself and Charlie Manson.

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            • anti-hero

              That is so stupid, if these people wanted to kill themselves, they certainly have the means. Even if they were being watched 24/7, all they would have to do is stop eating. If they have no feeling or remorse what makes you think they would care about being a burden? Clearly if they kill people they are not great at making ethical decisions. So your argument has not an ounce of merit. You are clearly just an idiot.

              I would love to have dinner and a conversation with Charles Manson. It would be a hell of a story, I'd write a book called my dinner with Charlie and make a ton of money.

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      • To bigger deal is made of him. He never killed and his cult killed six people...whoppie fucking doo. Put the serial killers that rape and murder children to death!!!!!

        Though i would like to have a chat with him, seems like an intelligent and interesting person.

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    • PumpkinKate

      And that somehow excuses his behavior?

      As if the gun or knife is the only weapon out there.

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      • anti-hero

        There are plenty of people out there that have committed actual murder that have served less time.

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    • Jan_Zondernaam

      Reason enough I'd say.

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  • anti-hero

    The point is it is stupid to think that someone like him is ever gonna kill himself over the guilt of being a burden on society.

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  • BlueBarracuda

    Well of course. Sure he never killed anyone personally but he's a cult leader. He's just as dangerous. Not to mention that he was raised in corruption, so putting him in the general public would be like saying, "Ok, here ya go. Go find some more troubled teens and twenty somethings to do your bidding." He's a sociopath, he cares about nothing but himself. Plus what he had people do was heinous. He's one of those folks who deserves death.

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    • Jan_Zondernaam

      I agree 100%

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  • Aleks85

    No, he's an American Icon, what's wrong with you?

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  • NeuroNeptunian

    Dude, I was reading on yahoo news like, two days ago that this failed, middle-aged musician thinks Manson is his Daddy. He said he was adopted as a baby, eventually located his birth Mom and she admitted that she got pregnant with him in an orgy and Manson was in that orgy.

    The guy looks a lot like him. Poor fucker. "My Mom got pregnant with me in an orgy with Charles Manson" isn't really the kind of story that you would tell at an office party...

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  • TonybigCock

    if someone is guilty to an irrefutable degree of a heinous crime, i agree they should be incinerated. They are at odds with the majority of society and there is no place for them, so send them back to their maker.

    The problem is if you are not absolutely sure, I do not agree with capital punishment, as it would be as heinous a crime to murder someone incorrectly.

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  • I'm a CHARLES MANSON lookalike.

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  • Trina

    After reading these comments....all I can do is shake my head.

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    • Instead of just shaking your head, perhaps you might be able to offer a better solution for dealing with notorious criminals?

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  • Ono

    I think everyone should have the right to assisted suicide given certain parameters. Manson doesn't seem like someone who wants it anyway, and as far as I know he's not suffering from a painful terminal illness.

    If he cut his wrists in a warm bath tomorrow I'd find it difficult to feel anything other than overwhelming indifference.

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  • FrancoisDillinger

    Yeah, I know what you mean.

    Why give him an opportunity his actions denied others?

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  • iEatZombies_

    Poor Charles. Let's all go to his house on friday and have tea. That'll make him feel better.

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    • anti-hero

      I'd love to go, what time are we leaving?

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      • iEatZombies_

        Hmm.. Well, I first have to wax my two big toes. Give me say.. thirty minutes?

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        • anti-hero

          Hurry up it is almost Saturday here.

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          • iEatZombies_

            Darn, we'll have to rain-check. I missed the big toe, got the cat instead. What. Uh. Day.

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  • Avant-Garde

    I thought he was already dead.

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    • Still alive, as well as well as much of his 'Family'.

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  • tori

    Ok. Not to give my age away or anything, but I was a teen when all this happened. Horrific. It was awful. He may not have killed with his own hands, but he appears to have power over weak people to fi his bidding. He still has people wanting to be his disciple. His prison found out he somehow got a cell phone. They took it away. Thank God. He is still dangerous. He should stay where he is.

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    • wigsplitz

      Hah, everyone in prison has a cell phone these days....Cell phone carriers refuse to let prisons and jails use signal jammers.

      A prisoner having access to a cell phone is as old as............um, a cell phone.

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      • Prisoner: Do you mind if I bring my cell phone into prison?
        Prison Gaurd: Not at all.
        Prisoner: Do you mind if I run a drug distribution network while I'm in prison?
        Prison Warden: Not at all. Everyone knows how much Americans love their drugs.
        Prisoner: I'm sure.

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        • wigsplitz

          The guards are the ones who bring most of the cell phones and drugs in.

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    • tori

      *to do his bidding.

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