Is it normal that i'm letting my husband do ivf with his ex?

My husband and I were on IVF for four years, unsuccessfully, after two years of trying to have a baby. We then used two young egg donors from overseas, also unsuccessfully (so I think his sperm could be "ineffective".) He had cancer so is now sterile so we use frozen sperm from before he had treatment (and we only have 8 straws left) We're both 46 now and the doctor tells us that we're wasting our time because I'm clearly no longer fertile. His ex-girlfriend is 44 (so her bioclock's running out), single and childless. She wants and child and so does he. She wants to do IVF with his sperm and have his baby. He's so desperate for a child that he's agreed but asked me for my seal of approval before going ahead, as you would expect. I already have a son from my first marriage. I love him so much and I want him to be able to fulfill his dream. He still cares for her as a friend but loves me, obviously (or he would've married her.) I said go for it, but make sure she knows that over 70% of females aged 44 are infertile. Also, I have never met this woman.

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  • shade_ilmaendu

    I'm torn. On the one hand it's a beautiful, selfless thing and shows a lack of jealousy on your part that I find inspiring.

    At the same time, there is an aspect of great selfishness here.... this would be the perfect opportunity to adopt a child from an orphanage and make someone else's life better, but of course no one wants to adopt a child, it's not the same if it's not "theirs" which does bother me.

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    • We've actually commenced the adoption process. The problem over here (Australia)is that it is so expensive and takes up to seven years so, as a result, it is so rare. As it takes so long, you never get a baby or even an infant; instead, you get a school-aged child. I have never met anyone of our generation in this country with an adopted child. We have a generous sole-parent pension so Australian mums NEVER give up their children, and abortion has been legal since I was a baby myself and can even be free for people with low incomes. Hence, unwanted pregnancies going to full term are very, very rare. As a result, adopted children in Australia are always from third-world countries. It's the hardest country in the world to adopt in which is why Hugh Jackman and his wife had to adopt in the US even though they originally wanted to do it at home. I saw a 19 yo boy (George Dennehy) on TV, found in a Romanian orphanage with no arms at the age of 12 months, and he eventually taught himself to play the guitar proficiently with his feet. We were so heartwarmed that we have also decided to adopt a physically disabled child. (Fortunately, we can afford a nanny or two to help.) So that ball is in motion. Another problem: it is illegal over here for the mum to more than 45 years older than the adopted child, and illegal for the mum to be over 50. That will mean that by the time we get our child, I could be as old as 53, and the adoption will be canceled. But we're trying anyway. You never know your luck. At the end of the day, if we're unlucky, at least I have my adult son, who my husband loves, and we have each other which is more than enough. We don't need a child to make us complete but we have a lot of love to give so it would be nice.

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      • 1000yrVampireKing

        That is horrible. I think children want to be adopted the fact it is so impossible for someone who clearly can not have and wants one is sad. These children grow up not having parents who love them. The fact someone wants one and is not able is ridiculous and is not good for the child. Instead of paying money to open an orphanage they should be paying to try and adopt the kids off. That is just wrong.

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    • Another possibility is being a foster parent. Parents with problems sometimes foster out their children but then they can just demand them back anytime and there is nothing you can do. They rarely allow a continuing relationship with their child. Obviously, I have looked into fostering children but unfortunately, I have a marijuana possession conviction dating back to when I was 18 so that makes us unacceptable as foster parents by the laws of this land.

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      • LilyAmongTheThorns

        I think its a good thing that you have looked into being a foster parent. I think it gives a lot of opportunity to kids that otherwise wouldn't have a home. My sister was picked up by her foster parents when she was 13 (they did not want to get me at the time as I was 17 by then) and while it was really positive for her, I would urge you to do your best to keep siblings together if you could. (I was in Thailand and my sister was taken to America, so it was very hard)

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  • kelili

    You're amazing.

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  • Energy

    I don't know :/ I mean you never even met her...?

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  • Terence_the_viking

    That's beautiful if there were more people like you this wolrd would be a far better place.

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  • Djtia

    I personally think it's a terrible idea. He will be forever bound to this ex, she still loves him - and them going through the new parent thing together spells nothing but catastrophic for you and your husband's future relationship.
    This leaves you completely out of the loop. I actually can't believe he is considering having a baby with an ex.
    That being said, you're quite a woman to have given your blessing. I would find it to be like salt in an open wound.

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  • BlueJeansWhiteShirt

    You do sound like a very kind woman and it's very good what you're doing.

    But I don't think you should allow this to happen. It may sound good in theory but in reality, it most probably will make your relationship with your husband quite difficult. Your husband will have other responsibilities which you won't share, he'll have to have very regular contact with his ex when she clearly still after all this time has feelings for him. You could suggest she uses someone else to get her pregnant.

    Your marriage is precious and this could and most probably would put a strain on it. That potential child will always be there in his life and so will his ex. You are a selfless woman which is fantastic but I suggest you act a bit selfish and not allow this to happen for your own sake.

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    • I agree and you've convinced me to meet this woman first. If she strikes me as someone I could have a peaceful, constructive ongoing relationship with, we can move forward. However, my husband is known by everyone to be a very good judge of character. He is known by the other partners in his nationwide firm as "the sole voice of reason in a sea of hotheads". He's not going to date a woman who is a bitch, for want of a better term. (He told me that the reason why he left her was because she didn't "turn him on" enough and she wasn't smart enough but he says she was a great person. I have found birthday cards from her and they always sound loving and kind.) But I keep coming back to the fact that it's all a bit academic because, let's face it, this baby will be born when hell freezes over because she's 44 and his sperm seems to be blank because he couldn't even make it happen with the most fertile egg donor on record at the agency, after three attempts. BTW, he would make such a great father. His own (late) father was the most wonderful, magnanimous person and that's the model he learned from. His Mom still says that he is the one who reminds her most of him. They still celebrate his birthday with a big party even though he died almost 20 years ago. Now that's a loved father.

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  • Jake_HighBorn

    not a good idea

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  • disthing

    I don't think it's a good idea.

    If you and your husband want a child, I think you should find a surrogate mother both of you have met and are comfortable with. That your husband's ex is still in love with your husband spells trouble, and that this child is for them and not for you and him also spells trouble.

    Perhaps I'm being pessimistic, I can just imagine a lot of issues coming up, and since there would be a child involved that could potentially be caught up in said issues, it's a bit of a risk. I think your intentions are good - that you want to provide your husband with the child he's never had - but this isn't the solution in my opinion. Good luck with whatever you do :)

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    • I agree and we've already done that. We've had 4 different surrogates from overseas and they've all lost the babies (well, embryos). When all is said and done, it really is a moot point because she could do IVF with him til kingdom come and it's not going to work because she's 44 and his sperm didn't even work when combined with three eggs from the most fertile young woman on record with the agency we went through overseas.
      I don't think you're being pessimistic. So many issues could and probably would come up, if it was miraculously successful. I'd basically have to put up with a third person in my marriage. I guess it's about whether it's worth having to deal with all those potential (more like "certain") minefields. My husband and I really do both feel like we have a bond that nothing could break. We know this because it's been tested by a lot worse than this.
      Unfortunately, surrogacy is only legal here if it's done for free and we don't know anyone who'd be willing to carry a baby for us for 9 months. And that would require an embryo anyway, and where are we going to get that, in this country, where the buying of eggs is illegal?

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  • Prince_of_Crows

    I certainly wouldn't do it were I you.

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  • OmNomNomm

    No! Don't. Think about this. He will want to be around for his kid and then SHE will be it's mom. Make her use some doner sperm instead and find a woman who is willing to carry a child for you and your husband. You cant be sure that she thinks only of your husband as a friend. Be warned!

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    • She DOESN'T think of him as a friend. She's clearly still in love with him and in 13 years, hasn't been able to move on. I feel terribly for her. She doesn't want use donor sperm because she won't know what she's getting. My husband is smart, athletic, wealthy and successful with a wonderful personality (but not handsome or tall). He will be able to provide for this child. Let's be realistic here; the IVF won't work. She's 44 and my husband clearly has dud sperm. If it does work it will be a miracle and a lot of people will be happy. All I want is for my husband to have the child he so desperately wants. Commercial surrogacy and the buying/selling of eggs/sperm is illegal over here so we always went overseas which was such a hassle.

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      • Angel_in_a_Glass_Dress

        She's a grown woman. She can get other sperm but ... this is a perfect excuse to get something from HIM.

        and as i said above in my other reply - it's a perfect way to latch some extra ties into him. ... and very possibly try to push you out of the picture.

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  • Angel_in_a_Glass_Dress

    "She wants and child and so does he. "

    Maybe it's me but that sounds a lot like she also wants a baby of her own. Are you sure she's the right person for this?

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    • She ABSOLUTELY wants a baby of her own. It will be hers, not ours. Since she's my husband's ex, he sees it as being the same as if he and his ex-wife had a child but he moved on. She wants him to be involved, i.e. the child staying here every second weekend, which he also wants and I'm fine about.

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      • Angel_in_a_Glass_Dress

        So the only option you have is to let her have his child for her own?

        She's not the only uterus in town you know. Why does it have to be HER?

        Frankly I kinda think this might not be all rainbows and unicorns. It may, in fact, turn out to be a perfect way to forge stronger ties between the two of them.

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  • runbabyfly

    You should meet the woman who is going to have your husband's child.

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    • I don't know if I could meet her. She's loved him for fifteen plus years and still does. How can I look this woman in the eye knowing that I have the one thing that she desires more than anything? I would feel terrible. At least I didn't steal him off her, even if I did come straight after her. They were over before we began. Let's face it, the IVF will probably not work because she's too old and his sperm seems to be blank.

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  • CheyChey

    I think it's a great gift you're giving your husband it's so admirable. Hope it doesn't cause a rift in your marriage.

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  • SeverusFan23

    I don't know.

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  • NeuroNeptunian

    Yeah, surrogacy is becoming more common, the choice of person on your part? Not so much, but if she's healthy and capable then there's no reason not to. Obviously he would know what kind of lifestyle his ex leads and her capability to have a healthy pregnancy than he would know about some chick you guys don't know based off of a resume and some medical files.

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  • Justsomejerk

    Selfless act, can't say it's normal but hope it all works out for y'all.

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  • flowergirl87

    Yeah, it's very open-minded and open-hearted (?) of you - you're putting aside your own feelings to make way for theirs and that means your husband can make his dream a reality (in theory.) I hope it all works out ok. Make sure you talk about what the arrangements will be should this mission be successful. I think there needs to be a kind of plan in place so that it all works out with him seeing the child etc without any dodgy jealously issues emerging (with any of you.) It could be a bit of a minefield but I'm sure it's possible if you're all mature and sensible people.

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  • Wow. Your guys are very kind. I was expecting people to call me crazy, a sucker, a doormat, a patsy, "it's a plot for her to steal him away so you're a blind, stupid idiot", etc. Some people confuse love and kindness with weakness, naivete and stupidity. I just want him to be happy and have the joy of a child like I've been blessed to have.

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