Is it normal that i hate it when vegetarians use the word "natural"?

So, you're a vegetarian? Swell.

So, you think you are healthier than a typical American McDonalds-guzzling couch potato? Sure, you probably are.

So, you think you are limiting animal suffering with your diet? Maybe a little, not that I care.

But, you think your diet is NATURAL?!

Without modern agricultural techniques, crops that have been bred by humans over thousands of years to be larger, more plentiful, and more nutritious than their ancestors, food transportation and preservation technology, biological and medical knowledge, and laboratory-produced vitamin supplements, a vegetarian diet wouldn't even be POSSIBLE for the human species, much less HEALTHY!

All of our ancestors were hunters who ate mostly meat. The term "hunter-gatherer" implies a larger reliance on plants than actually existed, as there are very few environments on earth that have any significant variety of plants that can be processed and digested by the rather wolf-like digestive system of the human species. Early man was more like a carnivore that nibbled on plants occasionally, the way domestic cats do when they escape outside. Human anatomy isn't even remotely similar to obligate herbivores, and is actually more similar to carnivores than to textbook omnivores like apes and bears. (interestingly, chimpanzees have recently been proven to be far more carnivorous than was previously believed.)

There is nothing more UNNATURAL than vegetarian diet. That is an undeniable fact of both history and biology. A human being subsisting on a vegetarian diet is a remarkable feat of modern civilization and technology.

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  • Glass

    People should really just stop using the word "natural" as if it has some sort of great positive meaning. Literally almost nothing we do is very "natural" anymore, which is in no way an extremely bad thing.

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  • NeuroNeptunian

    Whoa. I think the posters here are taking this as an attack on vegetarianism when, in fact, it is not. This is about attacking one of the arguments that vegetarians present which is that it is more natural. That's not a valid argument, as scientific advances DO make it more possible than otherwise, just as scientific advances make mass consumption of meat possible. I feel that you have a very valid argument against that point.

    Personally, I agree with you, but I'd like to make it clear that I do feel that vegetarianism is a good lifestyle choice, even though I do not participate in it myself. I have nothing against vegetarians, and I won't so long as they allow me to live MY preffered lifestyle.

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  • iEatZombies_

    Well, being a vegetarian, I suppose I won't use the word natural if it means so much to you. Personally though, I don't give a shit if my diet is natural or not. Also, I love fastfood. Wendy's baked potatoes, BK's salad, Checker's milkshake and fries, etc. Totally eating from all those places that kill my furry friends. WHICH IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. If you like meat eat it. If not don't.

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    • I respect you.

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      • iEatZombies_

        Uhhh. thanks? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Heh..

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  • Caps90

    People are meant to eat meat, that is natural; at least that is what my dad and aunt told me the other night

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  • Ono

    Natural is an incredibly broad word to use in most contexts in that it means nothing other than that it is found somewhere in the external world. Uranium and aspestos and ebola are all 'natural' for example.

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  • I agree. I don't mind about vegetarians being who they are, but when they try to say that I'm wrong any unatural for eating meat, then I show them that they're the ones unatural.

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    • iEatZombies_

      I think as long you're eating food you're natural.

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  • Ixu

    for me its the word organic. i once stumbled upon some hippie festival and they slapped that word onto everything that was for sale: organic clothes, organic food, organic coffee. wait... WTF IS ORGANIC COFFEE! dam vegans being ridiculous. and its the vegetarians that think they are changing the world and try forcing their opinions on others, they're just being assholes for no reason.

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    • iEatZombies_

      I hope you know we're not all assholes. I also think those people are idiots. But it's like Christians; most of them are pretty decent, but the ones who make themselves known are usually the preachy self-righteous type.

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      • Ixu

        I do agree. I'm only stating the ones that force their opinions on everyone that are incredibly annoying. If you choose to be that way and aren't bothering anyone about it, that's cool. I have vegan and vegetarian friends, I don't despise them. It's the strangers that tell me I'm living my life all wrong that are full of it! I hadn't meant to offend those who are more humble.

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        • iEatZombies_

          I took no offense. I just didn't want you to get a bad vibe off us veggie-heads because of the jerks. But you don't, so good. =]

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      • Avant-Garde

        That's a good point.

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  • Darkoil

    I completely agree that humans should eat meat but your argument sucks ass, humans are anatomically herbivores.

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    • PalestinianGuy

      Our closest relative the chimpanzee is omnivorous.

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      • Darkoil

        And what's your point?

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        • "humans are anatomically herbivores."

          Care to explain that statement?

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          • Darkoil

            No it's self explanatory and I can't actually be arsed.

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          • iEatZombies_

            Our anatomical structures are closely related to that of herbivores. Our facial features, teeth (yes), digestive system, etc is much like that of herbivores.
            We are omnivores in the physiological sense that we can eat whatever is available. We have the chemistry to do so.
            Our structure is designed herbivore, but our chemistry enables us to live off what's available.
            We are truly a unique race, you could say we create what's 'natural' based on our own choices.
            So we can all stop arguing now because we can eat or not eat whatever we want -because THAT is natural.

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  • eraser

    dude, chill. your argument more points to the conclusion that the vegetarian diet is not primitive. and it's definitely not unnatural - not normal, sure, but nowhere near unnatural. unnatural would be those people who eat glass and such.

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  • Avant-Garde

    I find myself being DEEPLY OFFENDED by this story.

    I'm a vegetarian, but only because I'M ALLERGIC TO ALL FORMS OF MEAT!!!!!!!!!!!
    Some months before I became allergic to meat, I tried desperately to follow the Hunter-Gatherer Diet, but I guess that It's down the drain now!!!!!! I try to eat organic and I know it's might be healthier than a diet consisting of ONLY fast food. I know that I'm not the healthiest of people, especially when you factor in anorexia and all of my other food allergies, but that can't be helped! You still think I'm "Unnatural". Even by your "diet ideals" most people are "unnatural" due to consuming GMOs, artificial preservatives/sweeteners, RBST hormone treated cows, corn-fed diets feed to animals when they should be eating things found in Nature,etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • If you were offended by my story then you must not have actually read it.

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      • Avant-Garde

        I did read it, but I have a tendency to flip out rather easily ("hysterics") and I was also I bit pissed off before I read it. Mon Apologies.

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    • NeuroNeptunian

      Relax.

      He is not bashing vegetarianism, he is bashing one of the most over-used (and often condescending) arguments for vegatarianism, which is "My diet is more natural". And I agree with him, vegatarianism isn't more "natural" (note the quotations please!) than the "hunter-gatherer" diet, but he was not knocking vegetarians and niether do I. It's a fantastic lifestyle choice, but the argument that it is more "natural" is extremely flawed and he was merely pointing out the flaws.

      But I understand why you are offended, vegetarianism is on the list of lifestyle choices that are frequently targeted by ignorant chicken-shits to poke fun at.

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      • Avant-Garde

        I see now, thank you:)

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