Is it normal that i find relationships and dating meaningless?

Minds are fundamentally independent. There is no chance two will agree exactly on everything. There either is going to be intense arguments and fights between them or one will have to sacrifice their individuality to the other. It won't work out in almost any case. So why do people hunt for someone to give up their individuality for? If it's for sex, it is inexplicably shallow. If it's for the sake of it then it is meaningless. If it's for no reason it's illogical. So what is it?

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  • BlueJeansWhiteShirt

    Every relationship has it's disagreements but that doesn't mean it won't work out and that it's pointless. If you agreed on everything, it would be boring. You can still be independent whilst with someone.
    We do it for love. Because love is the best thing ever. I'm guessing you have never been in love.

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    • Devyn

      My boyfriend and I don't agree on everything, but that makes for enjoyable debates, rather than damaging the relationship. Agreeing on everything would be boring.

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    • IrishPotato

      This. This EXACTLY. <3.

      I think the OP lacks emotions.

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      • Because we all know that people who see the stupid in stupid traditions are emotionless nutcases.

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        • Devyn

          You know what. I'm in a romantic relationship and I don't have sex in it. I really value and enjoy that relationship, so no, sex is not the only point of a relationship.

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    • Ah, love. It's that emotion that makes you spend three incomes and abandon your own life for nothing, only to be rejected and fall into depression. I could elaborate pages after pages about its pure ludicrousness, but people have already done so on the web. Just check out http://goo.gl/BsOs4 and http://goo.gl/I5B4t.
      In relationships, you have to spend time all with the partner. Even just some alone time or hanging out with friends raises the greatest of doubts.

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      • BlueJeansWhiteShirt

        I have to say, you are very depressing.

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  • dom180

    Because, like a lot of people have said already, having disagreements in a relationship doesn't make the relationship pointless. In the same way the we can be good friends with people we have disagreements with (at least we can if we have any degree of maturity whatsoever), we can also be in a good relationship with people who you have disagreements with, and this only breaks down if one person is too stubborn to allow the disagreement to come to a mutually beneficial conclusion.

    If your relationships can't survive disagreements then there's something fundamentally wrong with the way you approach both disagreements and relationships.

    There's nothing wrong with not wanting a relationship, but I don't think it's normal.

    "Why do people hunt for someone to give up their individuality for?"

    Because they accept that their individuality is not the greatest individuality, and that their personality could become richer by exposing it to and combining it with someone else's. In a healthy relationship both people understand that they should keep their individualities, sharing some parts of their lives and keeping other parts separate. In a healthy relationship nobody gives up their individuality.

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  • Dad

    Sorry there is no logic in love.
    If we programmed a computer with all our details and our partners details I am sure the computer would say, why stay together?

    Now this independence thingy.
    What is your independence? Loneliness, a prostitute every now and then?
    People like company, I know its strange.
    We group together and 'socialize' together. Can you imagine dancing at a nightclub on your own? What would be the use?

    I think the definition is we like sharing happiness.
    If you climbed a mountain wouldn't it be nice to turn to your partner and say We did it :) OR would you just stand on the mountain alone, with no one to share your feelings with?

    Anyway, the answer is love. Not lust!
    I thought I'd already told you this.

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    • I see you have centered your life on sex and extroversion, hence references to prostitutes, nightclubs, and groups.
      You're right. What would be the use?

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      • Dad

        Sharing life's joys, and experiences.
        Feeling wanted and missing each other if apart.
        Feeling like one, when together.

        The use would be defined as the contrary of loneliness
        If you watch a comedy at home alone and laugh and no one is there to hear you, were you really happy or are you miserable inside?
        These words make it all worth it, if spoken from the heart.
        I love you.

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  • dappled

    You don't have to agree on everything, though. And disagreeing on things doesn't have to lead to destructive behaviour.

    I don't have a religion and I dated someone who has a religion mistrusted in the west. Rather than cause conflict, it was an opportunity for me to learn something first-hand. And it wasn't all for sex because we never had sex.

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  • honeybobkins

    So based on the answers/comments all of us here have posted, you never really wanted an answer. You simply wanted to argue with everyone. Fuck off, dude.

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  • Tarkio

    There is only one happiness in life, to love and be loved- George Sand

    And happiness, even though fleeting or temporary makes life worth living. Without it, human beings would wipe themselves out.

    There is a strong connection between happiness and mental strength and stability. Good Luck to you brainchild. May you find happiness in your imbalanced perspective.

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  • IrishPotato

    You know why your arguements within your relationships are destructive?
    Because you're selfish.
    You're so selfish, and too damn proud to make your partner happy at the expense of yourself.
    You're so self-absorbed, that you're unable to realize you might be actually wrong, and you want to enforce your own opinion upon your partners. Thus a fight is caused.

    That's kinda what you're doing in the comments-section here.
    You don't even THINK about the comments people give you, but you instantly jump to offensive mode and counter every single thing the other person says. And I bet you're like that in real life too.
    Everything she says, no matter if she's right or wrong to begin with, you have to counter it and turn it into a big fight.

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    • It is you who is selfish. You always have to be with the best of dates, interviewing them to see if they can actually do stuff for you. You always have to have someone on your side to please your desires and praise you. You always have to have a relationship with someone, just so you don't be like one of those soulless singles.

      My argument was not about me, but about how people, in general, work. Everyone is selfish in nature, they want things to be just how they want it, and all they are happy about is what helps them, in one way or another. You, you just wanted to defend your silly traditions by personal attacks so that your way of living be justified, hence an underlying selfish motive.

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      • IrishPotato

        I don't look for relationship dear.
        I let it come across, and if it doesn't, it doesn't.
        If it does, it does.

        I do fine with noöne by my side, I do fine with.
        One just makes me enjoy life more the other, but I don't need it.

        Also, you just prooved my point.

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  • howaminotmyself

    The relationships that last are the ones that encourage indivuality. When two people disagree, arguments don't have to happen. It is possible to walk away without giving up a part of yourself. It is called respect, and an act of love. I'm sorry if you find human connection meaningless, I hope one day you will understand.

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  • SharP

    Everything is meaningless in the grand scheme of life bro. Get used to it.

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    • I refuse to succumb to this pathetic illogical nihilism.

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      • YouKnowWho

        Sorry, dude, but it's the truth. Feelings make no sense and have no utility and things that seem to have an utility, like knowledge and inventios, for example, aren't really useful because you live, then you die then other people live and then die and one day the planet will explode, so...what was it all for?

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  • DarkBlue

    You're lucky if you do!

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  • saddenedunicorn

    Sorry but I disagree with your entire rant.

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  • YouKnowWho

    You're totally right. I like people who analyze things and find out they're just plain stupid. Love does exist, and it mgiht not be something we have control over, but it should make us feel ashamed, because it adds nothing positive to our lives, most times it's destructive.

    I don't believe in dating, because I think mutual love doesn't exist. What are the odds you'll be your loved one's loved one? Like...0, probably. So romantic relationships only exist because of settling.

    And in response to the arguments in favor of love presented by people around here, I say that humans are stupid enoguh not be able to be satisfied with something without having other people's approval of their achievements.

    Also, you don't need to have a romantic relationship to learn stuff from people who have opinions different from yours, you can have friends, acquaintances, you can watch TV and read books. And there is obviously no such thing as emotional gain because emotions are even more inutile than other inutile things (because I believe nothing has a purpose in this world.)

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  • dudecalmdown

    Dude are you gay?

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    • Do you even know what gay means?

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  • Wendell

    I think your trying too hard to be intellectual

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    • 53739

      aren't we all

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  • tehfoxyfire

    You are assuming that ones mindset stays constant all their life. that there is no such thing as learning from one another, having a different perspective. That one person, can have that ability to change another for the better. This has been the case for many persons.

    In the same way there are also persons out there with like minds. He wasn't my lover since we never had sex, but the relationship was based on respect, sure we had our differences, but it was respect for one another that kept us from yelling/arguing..etc.

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    • Adapting to the environment is just a matter of laziness. A matter of conform vs. deviate. People find it easier to conform than to be themselves, so they do.

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  • honeybobkins

    It's called love. Emotions can drive a person to do any number of things for the most illogical reasons, but that's life and that's the way humans work.

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    • Nope. Descartes showed that humans are ridden fundamentally by reason. Desires? Just reasoning that, since better is to be sought for, and having the desired is better, we should seek for the desired. Conforming? Since effortlessness is to be sought for, and that conforming is effortless, we should conform.

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      • IrishPotato

        Bobkins is right. It's called love.
        You just don't understand this because you lack emotions due to some weird ass childhood trauma.

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        • Excerpt of an article on such relations:
          "Love has always been a concept much elevated in society. Most would find it hard to define, and something near an intense emotional affection for someone. The facts that it is not easily definable or that it is purely emotional shouldn't fail to prove that it is completely and obviously unreasonable. They often say that "Love is blind" or that it is easy to fall in love with a totally unsuitable person. That none but proves this point even further. Love means to some others to care deeply about and enjoy being with another, which is fine to a degree. It also is most of the time only one sided, and the lover is far more likely to see awkward responses or, even, scoffs, than the love response he waited for, after expressing his love to another. Such acts not only greatly frustrate the lover, but the loved too. An emotional affection to another means that you would do anything to be with him, to please him. This is an obviously stupid type of behavior. Why would you be willing to give up everything, just so you can be with someone who, most of the time, is completely apathetic about you? It is a completely illogical act, and people acknowledge that themselves when in love. [...] Love is not blind, love is stupid."

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          • IrishPotato

            What a terrible article.
            "An emotional affection to another means that you would do anything to be with him, to please him."
            That's nonsense.
            I've loved before, but if I didn't want to do something, I just didn't and it was fine.

            Not all articles are right.
            This one, isn't.
            It's merely written by a person much like yourself, failing in the circles of love thus rejecting it. Searching for "facts" to justify the rejection, however, the person (like yourself) doesn't really think this. They just settle with these little facts and thus have found a reason to give up on something that they couldn't succeed in.

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  • Darkoil

    Sex is the single most pleasurable experience there is. Have you even ever had a relationship or sex because your idea on the matter is so way of the mark I would guess your a teenager, virgin, lonely and possibly ugly.

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    • IrishPotato

      Probably all of the above.

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    • The pleasure it brings is only bestial and a matter of minutes. I did have relationships, and I don't accept these ad hominem attacks.

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      • IrishPotato

        Matter of minutes? You must not last very long then.

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        • That right there. The porn industry has convinced you that sex is the one most important thing in your life, you should strive to last long as you'd fail in life otherwise, and you should scoff at those who don't.
          By the way, the optimal length of sex is about seven minutes, and orgasm is just about a fiftieth of that. The consequently released hormones that give pleasure last for about 10 minutes. So yeah, it's a matter of minutes, sex crazed conformist loon.

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          • IrishPotato

            ...Lol. You crack me up dude.
            I'm not focused on sex, hell, I went without for months and I didn't care less.
            Love is more important.

            And if people don't last long, it's not their own fault. And it's fine.
            Also, I shall quote the famous Dad here.

            I love you.

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      • Darkoil

        Apparently I guess wrong. If you have had relationships before then why did you have them?

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        • tehfoxyfire

          Trial and error Im assuming from the op..

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          • IrishPotato

            The OP sounds like some sort of cyborg.

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