Is it normal that i feel that men should and must be very successful?

Ever consider the possibility that your father worked so hard, that he worked himself into an early grave?

People who have ambition like what you describe always make me laugh, esp since they wont make much of a difference in the big picture, no matter what they do or "become".

Life is meant to enjoy, not work yourself stupid so you can sit back and say "hey look at my 6 figure car, or look at my 8 bedroom house". Besides all that attitude inspires in others is contempt anyway, yet people like you are deep down insecure so because of it you overcompensate by collecting material items in an effort to show them off seeking other's approval.

Successful doctors become doctors because they want to help people, not because they want to shout "Look at me and what I accomplished!"

I would bet wager that you're American.

American society weans people to believe that money = smarts/success/happiness.

I've met a lot of great people who have no money, and some real ass holes who do.

I like submissive women who stay at home and cook but I think I'll be flamed for saying that.

Some people are so poor, all they have is money. :/

Well bless your heart, you sound like a shallow bitch.

That's stupid and sexist. Your brother can be whatever he wants.

Ah! D:
I hope all women don't think like this. I'd personally hate to work in any of the jobs you mentioned. I'm looking for something that'll keep me financially stable and happy, not something that will absorb all of my time but make me rich. Money isn't a huge deal to me.
With the way my life is going currently I'll probably end up as a software engineer since I'm not bad at that. Decent enough job but it's nothing that takes huge commitment.

I think a man, just like a woman, should be allowed to do anything he wants to do. I mean, you have some men who chose to be stay at home dads. It's uncommon, but it exists. I think if your brother wants to be a nurse, then you should support him as he is your brother, and you should support him in anything that he wants to do as long as it doesn't hurt him or anyone else. It's fine if successful men turn you on, there are lots of women who are the same way, but not all men want that kind of lifestyle and, personally, I don't think it's right for you to expect them all to have that kind of lifestyle. Just like a lot of women would get pissed if a man told them they need to be mothers and stay at home wives, take care of the family, that crap, it's kind of not fair to say all men need to be successful with successful manly jobs. It just isnt' fair.

Honestly, you sound really narrow-minded to me. There's nothing wrong with being a male nurse, and I think they deserve the same respect that men in those other careers that you admire so much receive.

you sexist cunt motherfvcking piece of goddamn fvcking racist as* shi* !

Just because a man isn't a doctor, or a surgeon, or a sales rep doesn't mean he isn't a hard worker. There are plenty of people out there who are ambitious, and who are hard workers, yet they've never managed to get the success that they always craved, like the people in so-called "hard earned respectful" careers that you've mentioned.

There are many different ways you can consider someone to be "successful". They could have a high paying job, live in a mansion with no financial problems, yet be unhappy; would that person consider himself successful? Probably not.

I think it's perfectly normal, who doesn't want to live a life of comfort, leisure and wealth? Anyone who denies it is a liar.

Given the choice between a guy living in a dingy apartment, struggling to get by, versus one who is successful and owns a condo/house and lives comfortably, the answer is obvious.

However the character of the person matters a lot too. I have a rich friend who works in the medical field-he is seriously one of the cheapest and most superficial people I've ever met. Though he's a millionaire, he's the type of guy you could never rely on to help you financially-even for petty cash.

Yet my mother is the kind of person who has a low income but she'd give you her last dollar if she could. I like generous, good-hearted people, they're more fun to be with and they're genuine.

The best thing to do is to make your own money/be successful and find someone compatible.

but you are not going to date him , let him be what he wants i know plenty of male nurses, most of them branch off into paramedics, and there is something very sexy about a man who rushes about helping people, like firemen, so yr brother will be fine cause he doesnt have to date you

The title sounds harmless enough, but your description makes sound like a greedy, sexist moron.

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I bet, this post makes you happy, OP.

I can understand not liking people who aren't ambitious and are just lazy. However someone can have lots of ambition and not be sucessful. Do you realize how difficult it is to find good work now days? I personally have lots of ambition and do lots of stuff to try and get money. However success can be very difficult with how bad the job market is. I hardly make any money and I understand that someone might have all the ambition in the world but never find a big time career. Personally I feel angry that some lazy people get everything handed to them while the rest of us work for nothing.

Are you serious? Nurses get paid really well and actually care about their patients.

But I do understand the ambition part. I want to marry a man that really cares about his job and himself also. But it doesn't have to be the best job ever just as long as he knows what he is doing in his life and "enjoys" it.

Also my mother is a nurse and she gets better pay than my father who is a manager of his own store.

your a dumb feminazi!

How do you define success?

Have you ever considered that you are just desperately trying to reach out to your father beyond the grave?

Well, I feel the same way about women. I like women who have a very deep level of respect for themselves and do not take disrespect. I prefer decent looks and intelligence as oppose to sexiness.

You had me until you bashed on your brothers career choice. I can see that ambition is a turn on for you, and that you are very ambitious. I can even understand that you wouldn't want to date a person that is not as ambitious as you, and I still wasn't going to call you shallow. When you bashed your brothers career choice, that is where you become shallow and pretentious.

What is wrong with your brother wanting to have enough money to be stable and happy, but still have a life? I am envious of his schedule myself!

I am a Sales Rep for Mazda Motor America, and I can promise you that the stress of your fathers job did not help him any. He worked in a more mentally stressful job than I even deemed possible when I was younger, gave HUGE amounts of personal sacrifice and time to his job, and provided you with a great life. While I respect him because I know how hard it is for some to make it in this field, I can also see the other side of it when I look at my social life. For example, I am on the phone as I am type this talking to a man that is calling me a "piece of shit con artist" because my dealership policy is to sell Mazda CX-5's at sticker price and he wants a discount. I have been here since 6 this morning, and wont leave till well after 10. Who is jealous of me right now? Nobody. Also, I just saw the 22nd kid start here since I have been with the company, because they keep getting fired for not cutting it.

It is not for everyone to have no life and a huge checkbook!

Nurses can be very successful people too. And I agree with djpatties. Its nice to want to be somebody, but if you want to become a doctor, do it because you wanna help people, not because you wanna be a show off.

You sound like me.

Moving on, I don't think it's normal for you to feel that being a male nurse isn't considered a job for a man. Let him be what he wants. I'm sure you'll rather him being that than a lazy behind who doesn't want to do anything with his life. My bother wanted to be an architect, but he's too much of a bad ass. If I'm not going to see my brother be something in his life, at least you can.