Is it normal that i don't have any sympathy for women who date jerks?

I'm sure all guys have met this kind of girl who complains about wanting a nice guy who will treat her right, then turns around and goes out with an asshole, then turns around and complains to everyone that he's being a jerk, he's beating her up, and he's cheating on her. Seriously, I have no sympathy for these kind of women. They said they wanted a nice guy, and here a I am, a nice guy who will love her and treat her right. But then suddenly she starts going out with a guy who is an abusive, deadbeat loser, and then she comes crying to me going "he beats me," "he's such an asshole," or "he cheated on me, I thought he loved me." Hey she made her choice. She had a good man standing next to her who will love her and will do anything to make her happy, but instead she chose to be with someone who will treat her like a punching bag. So why should I feel sorry for her? Whatever happens to her is none of my concern. Last time a girl chose a jerk over me, she tried to text me asking to talk to me because her boyfriend cheated on her and that she was so heartbroken. I just erased her message and her number. I'm sorry but I'm not gonna be anyone's shoulder to cry on. Not unless a friend or family member is sick and/or dying, then that's one thing, but crying to me about an abusive jerk who you chose to be with is really her damn problem, not mine.

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  • dom180

    There's a few basic problems here (chiefly that you're as bad as them, but I'll be more specific):

    "Here a I am, a nice guy who will love her and treat her right"

    Really? You would love *any* woman who accepted you? Why would anyone date anyone who had that kind of disposable attitude? Nobody wants that. You're projecting yourself all over them.

    "She had a good man standing next to her who will love her and will do anything to make her happy, but instead she chose to be with someone who will treat her like a punching bag. So why should I feel sorry for her?"

    Oh what a nice guy you are. Those women must be blind not to see it...

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    • vagman30

      You're totally missing the point. Firstly: I never said that I would love *any* woman who accepted me. Secondly: I would never tell her how feel right after I met her. Thirdly: what's so wrong about treating someone right? So you're saying that I should go around and treat others like crap?

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      • dom180

        But you're not actually treating anyone well, are you? In fact, you're pushing people away who want your support. A "nice guy" wouldn't do that. I'm not saying you should treat others like crap, I'm saying you *are* treating others like crap and you're being hypocritical about it to boot, Mr. Vagman.

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        • vagman30

          Yes I do treat others well. But when women start choosing jerks and turn around to complain about it, then why the hell should I support them? They're the ones who made a stupid decision, so what's there to support? You want me to just give her a shoulder to cry on and listen to her cry about what an asshole her boyfriend is? She's the one who picked him, she knew what she was getting herself into, so why should I associate with someone like that?

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  • Strat

    If we can define a nice guy as someone who is respectful and considerate but not perfect or thinks he is perfect then yes they do finish behind the jerks,most "jerks" have the gift of gab and since many Women are immediately taken in by what they want to hear instead of what they want to see like Men are jerks have a great advantage.

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  • GoraIntoDesiGals

    Whereas I know where you're coming from, there are a few perception problems you need to fix. Women are attracted to strong, confident men, not sweet wusses who'll listen to their whining etc. those bad boys don't attract them coz they're bad (unless you mean hood girls) but coz they're confident and strong.
    I totally agree that women are irrational and illogical about many things and I wish it were different but I also wish I had wings and could fly so whining about it won't give me those things.

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  • Nice guys are jerks, the self righteous are vomitus no spineus.

    Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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  • KeddersPrincess

    I feel the same way. What's even more annoying is women who have sex with jerks and then end up pregnant and try to play the victim role when the man decides he doesn't want to take care of it. I'm always like, "You should've thought about that when you were sleeping with him." Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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  • Anime7

    As a nice guy

    You either find a relationship and live contently
    or
    you stay single long enough to become a cynic.

    OP I understand where you're coming from but there is this stigma going around that guys in the friendzone are vindictive assholes who are upset at woman who don't date them. Sure there are a couple of few good men, but for the most part that's the stigma and that's something that I've observed to be true. I agree with you to an extent though, but you should still head what I said above this paragraph. Don't become cynical, you're probably a nice guy and someday a girl will realize that.

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  • I completely agree. There is a difference between not feeling sympathy for someone and realizing that they have all the power to choose to leave that situation, yet always choose to be with them.
    Why should people feel sympathy for people that have the power to remove the reason to give them sympathy?

    Sadly, this is one of those situations in which a lot (not all) women want to have their cake and eat it, too. They want to give off this image they want the nice guy, but their actions show otherwise, which is why this will probably get a ton of thumbs downs.

    Women can go for assholes all they want, that's their choice. What irritates me is when they come running to the nice guys, complain about the assholes, say there aren't any nice guys when they're complaining about an asshole to one, then go back with the asshole.
    There just comes a point where you just don't believe people deserve your sympathy. You have the power to leave, you have a selection of better people to form a relationship with, yet you always go back to the person you complain about? Why does such behavior deserve sympathy?

    Too many guys have tried this out on their own to know that being a nice guy is going to get you nowhere, which is why so many get irritated when women complain about "where are all the nice guys!?", because they are everywhere, you're just not acknowledging them.

    I think there is a difference between being nice and being an idiot, which is in regard to your discussion with another user on here.
    Being nice is showing sympathy and helping someone try get away from that. Being an idiot is having that help you are offering pushed away when you are looking out for her more than the asshole, just so she can get back with that asshole.
    There is a difference between being nice and allowing yourself to be an emotional shoulder to be used.

    I myself am somewhat of an asshole. I have my good and bad traits, and I have noticed this far too much even when being the one getting attention, from college and so on. A girl would know this guy that is the nicest thing, laughs with her, chats with her, and so on. The second someone like myself comes along that really does not care about her, she will put that guy to the side just to talk to me, and I have seen the guys' faces when this has happened, they're upset. In return, it irritates me, because I know that despite the clear evidence they are giving me, someone who doesn't care about them, more attention and advances than the guy that actually cares for her, they are going to sit there and complain about where all the nice guys are because they are too busy looking for some sort of mixture of good and bad, in which when they can't find it would rather go for the bad than the good.

    I think a lot of women need to grow up in this aspect, which may not be politically correct to say a percentage of women have some irritating traits, but that's how it is. Too many guys have tested this and been more successful when they are more bad than good. It's as if they think guys are just making it up.

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  • I agree with you. I think people who put themselves in shitty situations and are to naïve to get out of it deserve what they get simply because they put up with it. I'm not trying to say how nice I am, but people who cause their own problems rarely deserve sympathy.

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  • Hobnob1003

    Ah yes, the legendary lack of empathy for anyone but himself of the self-proclaimed 'Nice Guy'. I have yet to meet a 'Nice Guy' who isn't a nasty, spiteful, vindictive little bastard. You have no sympathy for the fact that the woman you claim to love is being beaten up by her boyfriend? What kind of spineless, snivelling, self-righteous little wimp are you? No, her choice wasn't between the 'Bad Guy' and the 'Nice Guy'. Her choice was between two abusers, one who had some attractive qualities, and one who has none whatsoever. And that's assuming she is being beaten up and treated badly. I've noticed that 'Nice Guys' love to talk about how any guy a woman chooses, who isn't them, is a woman-beating asshole.

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    • vagman30

      Fuck you!

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  • tyrannosuchus

    Yes this is normal, but not good and should be looked at from a different perspective. I remember feeling the same way and in some way I still do, but you need to understand that what you were taught by your parents and teachers about sex and relationships is wrong. I was taught that women don't look for attractive men, only men who are kind, intelligent, and respect personal space. While they do prefer men to have these aspects, it plays little part in who they find attractive. I'm sure you were also taught that girls only make love with men if they're pressured and manipulated, that sex is only something evil sexist pigs want. I don't think we, males, are dense but I do think that our emotional and sexual dependence on female affection and approval makes us love them and hate them so much. It feels like the whole world has played a trick on you giving you false insight in women and relationships and part of your hatred is that in itself.

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  • pixie_dust

    I can understand how you feel. Although, if you understand the psychology behind such things, you may begin to have some kind of sympathy. This girls sounds as if she has some emotional baggage that has never been dealt with. Reliving such behaviours is an indication. It's an involuntary response. For her, chaos is what she's drawn to, a normal/decent guy will be boring for her. If you DID manage to talk her into having a relationship with you, she would involuntarily sabotage it, because she thrives on chaos. She needs therapy.

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  • Lynxikat

    As a female, I completely agree with you. I have utterly no sympathy for people who date assholes, knowing full well what they're getting themselves into, and then complain about it.

    You wanted to date him knowing that he's an asshole, and then complain when he acts like an asshole. Sorry, but those "Oh poor, woe as me" attitudes from these kind of women might work with some people (Like they have with some of the people in this thread already), but you get no sympathy with me. You don't DESERVE it.

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  • hoppy

    There are three people in this story. A woman who is getting beaten up, a guy who is beating her up, and you who has no sympathy for her. And you think the person who deserves singling out of these three is the woman who is being beaten up?

    Any feelings at all about her abuser or people who have no sympathy someone being abused?

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