Is it normal that i diasgree with this mentality?

Hello there. To start off, first and foremost, don't start ASSUMING anything until you've read the entire post and have thought about it, before posting a comment.

To begin, let's define the word 'hero'. According to an online dictionary, the term 'hero' means: "a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities."

The term hero could be applied to someone who saves people in a fire, like a fireman, or a policeman, or a veteran of a war. Which brings me to an interesting question and a view that most people would question. With that being said, let's take a look at the troops on the ground in the Iraq War and in Afghanistan. The troops in these two wars are certainly heroes for going over there for their bravery and the training they go through. And they are certainly heroes to their friends and family. But my gripe about this whole thing, is that, in my view I don't see them as heroes on a more national level. I feel as though they have heroism on a more personal level. I would certainly not put them on the same pedestal as let's say a veteran of the second World War.

My real gripe is that many laud them as heroes as if they just prevented masses of terrorists coming over here trying to take over our country. This is a foreign war and I'm kind of miffed that they are regarded as such. Another major gripe is that there are always sayings such as ''They defend your freedom.'' And to that I say, "Well, even if we weren't over there fighting, we would still have freedom and carry on with life as usual!''

In summation, I think they are heroes on a personal level and I respect them. I can't see them as heroes on a national scale!

Does anyone share my views? Is it normal?

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  • SangoNyappy

    I actually don't like when people say that soldiers are heroes. Yes they might be heroes for your country but they are the ones who kill people in other countries. Real heroes for me are for example firemen who only save and not take lives.

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    • RomeoDeMontague

      Yes but its not something you can avoid. A military is a line of defense for a country. They are people held in reserve in case something like war happens. They are simply reinsurance. Even if no one volunteered they would draft in times of war. Someone has to do it. They just volunteered first. Them fighting is saving those of us at home.

      They are owned by the government and they are simply following orders. All military men are exactly the same. Everyone believes they are fighting for a cause. You think that protesting university did not feel like they had a cause?

      Everyone has a cause it just depends what side you are on. Soldiers/troops are all the same, all countries are exactly the same. What makes morals? Us! and when enough of us agree upon something it becomes the teaching of a country.

      Now if an island believe in eating people are they bad? Well you might say so. However everyone on the island will say its normal. So there is when the argument comes up. None of us are right or wrong. We all simply follow what we feel.

      So how are world war 2 troops/soldiers anymore heroic? Those who won battles for Germany are heroes. Those who won for japan are heroes, and those who won for Russia, china, Us, England, France are considered heroes to everyone against Germany and japans take over. We are not different. We are all exactly the same.

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  • Andrew256

    I think anyone that enlisted in any branch of the service after 9-11 is a damn fool. I feel bad for them but they didn't get drafted. They were just dumb enough to enlist.

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  • fullhouse

    Soldiers are different in the US,o ther developed countries and in the less developed countries.
    US almost always goes to war not to protect their country but to meddle in other people's affairs. I don't feel any sympathy for the death of US soldier as you.know that is a death in vain..

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  • GuessWho

    Also keep in mind that they're just doing their jobs.
    It's your president that's sending them there for whatever reason he sees fit.

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  • drugsrbadmkay

    How about "Baby Jessica"? They called her a hero because she was fucking stupid enough to fall down a well.

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  • iEatZombies_

    If we break this apart, in order for a person to be noble, they have to be fighting for a noble cause. Now, if you find this war noble and said hero feels they bring justice, it would make them a hero. However, if you don't see a noble or admirable cause, and/or the hero sees none, then he's not a hero. If you do the math, factor in that few believe in this war, you've got 3/4 chance that said hero has no noble or admirable cause.
    On the personal level, these military do feel a sense of protecting their loved ones via military training, etc. This does help them deal better with life if they don't fall apart mentally, first.

    Therefore, they're about 75% unlikely to be national heroes for the war specifically. The catch is, when they come home, they have the potential to be heroes locally, which can be just as catching.
    This could be an example;
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wu96njiuEc

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  • robbieforgotpw

    Our soldiers are all heroes because they risk their lives on behalf of others. They have no choice in the matter, it is their job. And they do it for little pay and very little respect from anti-military Americans which is a shame.

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    • Imsupernormal

      Most soldiers only join the military to make money because they can't find any other job. And the military is there to serve the State NOT the people. Bombing the shit out of Afghanistan and Iraq has not done shit the help the average American.

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    • geek_god_101

      I would hate to tell you this but most military employees are not active duty. We also do not have a draft so putting your life in danger is a voluntary choice. I am not impressed with paying the bills for someone who does not understand this concept. When 45% of the national budget is spent on defense, that really is not a laughable matter and a serious despotic priority. In the last century, the U.S. has started, participated in more wars than any other nation in the world. No one died and put us in charge. It would be nice to see where my tax dollars go to when it is being spent on military equipment.

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      • robbieforgotpw

        I'm part of the 53% paying for the other 47% who don't pay any taxes.But they're entitled to take it easy and have live-ins but don't report their income. And get their housing and food paid for allowing them to spend their money on what they want as long as they have babies to show for it.
        If given a preference I choose to contribute to the military who aren't looking for handouts instead of working.

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    • kelili

      Yes they are paid to kill and there's no honor in killing.

      THOU SHALL NOT KILL

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      • newtdup

        Thou shalt not kill, makes no sense, since God gave the beasts of the field to man as food for them.
        Matthew 5:21... says you have heard it said to the men of old, thou shalt not commit murder...
        There is a difference between killing and murdering.

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  • robbieforgotpw

    A lot of you would have been right at home with the other military protesters after Vietnam. And they obey their orders giving you the freedom of speech that you have to disrespect them.

    If any one of you had a son or daughter risking their lives, would you still dishonor them for obeying orders?

    Try going over to thd middle east and you may have a new appreciation for your freedom here. As long as we're still free...

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  • Terence_the_viking

    I'm confused are you calling them heroes or not.

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  • People have strange looks on their faces when you kill them.

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  • Couman

    In my opinion someone who just follows orders is not a hero. Even the military itself recognizes that to an extent. You don't get cool medals for doing what you're told, you get them for going "above and beyond the call of duty".

    And I'm so sick of the "fighting for YOUR freedom" line. Our own government is by far the biggest threat to our freedom at present. To be fair, there is a group calling themselves "Oath Keepers" who swear they will defend us against just that if need be. They're cool, even if their vision of how tyranny will come to America is a bit fanciful.

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  • kelili

    I would never consider people who killed other human being like themselves like heroes. And giving them reasons as "they are fighting for our freedom" is not wnough for me. If we simply look at the facts they are murderers and they are no different fromt their enemies.

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    • newtdup

      so if you kill someone who is trying to kill you and your family, suddenly you're the murdere? Sounds like self defense to me. If they assault you or attempt to assault you or your family first, and you take their life in the defense of yourself or family, you have not "murdered", you have justifiably acted in self defense. In bible times you would not be held guilty of murder.
      Many Islamic extremeist feel that they have an obligation to kill all unbelievers of Islamic religion. That would be most of the western world, whether innocent or not. How is that right, even according to the Koran?

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      • kelili

        I'm not taking sides, just frankly saying what I am thinking. Being a non-american and non-muslim I think that I can make an unbiaised opinion on this war and my thoughts are that all are equally guilty and all who participate are simply murderers.

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