Is it normal that i can't find these so-called good guys?

Ever think that "you" aren't attracting them? Something I do find interesting about girls like yourself is that you have spent so long looking for guys that aren't good guys, all while the good guys are watching it happen, and then all of a sudden when you want a good guy, these good guys are supposed to just come crawling out of the woodwork and be attracted to someone that blew the type of person they are off for people that are assholes.

There are multiple nice guys out there, and what I get annoyed about is when women say "I just want a nice guy", but still expect a handsome good guy rather than a good guy, say, with average looks.

I have seen this happen too many times while growing up, and I have talked to some of the good guys, and they really cannot be bothered with the type of girl that spends so much of her time with the "bad boys" with the looks, then all of a sudden wants the good guy that they never gave a chance. These guys aren't attracted to such women.

If you can't find them, then they aren't attracted to you. You played your cards and went for the bad boys, now the good ones aren't wanting such a person simply because they're the second choice and the first ones didn't count.

These good guys have self-respect.

Honestly, I think it would serve you well to take a break from looking for "Mr. Right" and concentrate on yourself. Maybe have a few sessions with a therapist and or checkout the twelve step program known as Codependents Anonymous. Try to concentrate on self discovery and improvement. I suspect this problem this goes much deeper than you're aware.

http://www.coda.org/

They probably are everywhere, but you're just not seeing them because you're not attracted to them.
It's a weird dilemma because you want to be with someone that is "good" for you etc.
But what if those types of people just don't do it for you?

It could also be that on some level your ego wants to identify you as being 'the girl who is always getting screwed over in relationships' and be a victim to the idea that there are no good men out there; destined to repeat this pattern over and over. There might be a part of you that likes the abuse.

I'm sorry I haven't got a practical answer for you.
Be a good person yourself and you'll probably attract like.

You gotta be careful about self proclaimed nice guys. If you walk into his room and see either a fedora or a pinkie pie fleshlight, you gotta run.

It's because love isn't always fair, and sometimes there's nothing you can do about it. Guys and girls aren't always attracted to the partners who would be best for them. The people you like most won't always like you and there's not always anything you can do about it. Love isn't something that can be found tactically. There's no point trying to make sense of it.

Good partners aren't in the woodwork waiting to come out at the slightest hint of a good match. If they're half intelligent they'll know that you have to try a relationship with someone to know how good it will be. They're just like you, roaming the landscape of relationships and running into people who are and aren't the right fit for them.

The moral is: if you want to find a good partner, have as many as you can and you'll eventually run into one who is right for you. Be prepared to get hurt, and be prepared to find lots of people who aren't right for you.

Check the friendzone

This is why I like the Amish. Yes, that is a huge exaggeration. But I need to see the times come back where the guy would approach the girl and ask if he could court her. And then they don't even hug until they get married. And when they get married, they stick together.

Yes it is normal. I find people, especially guys, vastly overestimate how many good guys there are. It's always amusing how often so many misogynistic aholes think they are nice guys/good guys and such.

It's even more normal to not find these so-called good guys if you're not a young attractive submissive subservient.

I checked the friendzone - and that's where they all were! I just went through an event with someone I'd friendzoned & knew was interested but never took seriously. He asked me why I put up with mistreatment from exes in the past, & I thought about it. I imagined all the events of the night if they had come from an imaginary "ideally attractive" guy, & it played out like a fairy tale. I reran some events w/exes & imagined the same scenarios if they were less physically attractive. & EVERYTHING changed. I highly recommend this for perspective.

I will give you one of my knights, they are good and honest. And will satisfy your every need. I am willing to make the sacrifice. 4 u. Do you like facial hair or smooth?

I don't have much to add because ItDuz already said most of it.

There are good guys everywhere. They are walking down the street next to you, they are in the same class as you and some of your male friends may also be "good guys". In fact, there are probably more "good guys" than there are "bad guys". You just don't notice them because they don't stand out like the bad boys do. They don't string you along so that you never know where you stand. They are honest and straightforward with you. Because of this, many women take them for granted instead of seeing the potential in them.

If you want a good guy, then just look around you.

Wow, what a great post. I never thought about it from a woman's perspective, often seeing the most wonderful gals hanging on the arm of some shit head. It was always so tempting to whack the creep on the head and drag the abused girl "to a better life", caveman style.
But where would you actually find a "good guy"?
Probably not of interest to you, but there are a multitude of really nice, interesting, financially secure, retired guys, sailing around the Caribbean without a lady. They are alone because their life partner wanted no part of their lifelong dream of retirement aboard a sailboat. Some of the gals actually tried it, some wouldn't, but in the end, these guys are living their dream alone.
I hope you can get some feedback from other guys that might be of some help to you. Good luck, we are out here.

Good guys keep getting friend zoned so after a while they give up trying to get into a relationship

It's not about knowing where they are. It's about changing something about yourself. Like attracts like. You have been conditioned to attract these types of guys for whatever reason. Sometimes we subconsciously feel like we deserve someone who's not good to us. Sometimes, it's related to family issues or trauma in the past. You need to try to identify the cause of the issue. Then you can proceed to take appropriate action to correct the problem and change. I attract a lot of damaged women and I think it's because I'm such a sympathetic and understanding person that that's what these types of women need. So I know that I need to actually be less understanding and sympathetic. I'm the guy who subconsciously tries to fix my partners and I need to realize that I can't fix nor should I be taking on that responsibility. See where I'm getting at here?

every "good" good guy and every "good" bad guy are already taken :)

all that is left are weirdos ;)

Look for the bald headed, glass wearing, short, stocky, nerdy looking guys.
Hot guys are mostly assholes who don't give a shit about women besides using them for a quick fuck. And that's exactly how they should!