Is it normal that i believe men are being portrayed as morons?

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Every sitcom, commercial and movie depicts men to be the dumb fat spouse. I was watching a TV show that featured two "higly trained" agents. One man and one woman. In the scene the man got knocked out on the first punch and the women fought off five or six men before being taken down(she was half his size). I believe that women should have strong role models, but do you think there is a little over compensation going on? I'm glad that there are women in the media etc that little girls can look up to. So they can grow up to think independently and intelligently but I can't help but think that the reverse has happened for men. I ask the women of today, if you have/had a little boy, would you want him to grow up feeling weak, stupid, and dependent on a woman in every situation(as depicted in the media)?

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  • charli.m
    11 years ago

    Yup. There are plenty of male stereotypes that piss me off. If I'm lucky enough to have a son,I don't want him growing up thinking his role is to be stupid, or that if he shows emotions or sensitivity, he's weak.

    I could rant on, but my boys at work are about to wake up. They are sweet, sensitive, loving little souls, and I for one am going to nurture that. With all the hugs and kisses I can get away with.

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    • howaminotmyself
      11 years ago

      Awe, you can come babysit for me anytime. :)

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      • charli.m
        11 years ago

        I would definitely be your nanny if you decided to or had to go back to work :D

        I think we'd mesh well in a working relationship :)

        Your kid is one lucky lil boy to have you for a mother :)

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        • howaminotmyself
          11 years ago

          Thank you. That makes this momma smile. :)

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    • suckonthis9
      11 years ago

      Your boys are not "souls".
      Please describe the Physical properties of a 'soul'.

      They might be sensitive and loving little people, but they are not 'sweet', nor are they 'souls'.

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      • charli.m
        11 years ago | pl

        You constantly argue with the members of this community over trivial matters such as their typically acceptable use of words.

        I believe you are in violation of your own rules #5 (by not having a sense of humour), #6 (by not getting along with others. I think it's time for you to walk away graciously, instead of instigating arguements and causing irritation), and you are most certainly in violation of rule #8, as you continually oppose your beliefs onto others.

        Thus, I believe I have the right to ask you: Why are you creating divisions in society?

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        • suckonthis9
          11 years ago

          This is not a trivial matter. It is very important for early childhood development.
          Children have a propensity to absorb information and to retain much of this throughout their lives (at least conceptually). If you instill information in them which is incorrect, they will probably grow up believing in things which do not exist in reality. This often does cause confusion and grief later in life.
          This is how these Archaic concepts are perpetuated through the generations. If you are a nurturing mother, and you are unsure about the validity of something, please take the time to research these, or ask someone who knows.
          They are sensitive and loving little people.

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          • charli.m
            11 years ago

            I'm not a mother.

            I have studied Early Childhood Development while obtaining my qualifications as a childcare professional. You are not a parent, nor are you a childcare professional. I don't usually like to say I know more than anyone else about any given subject, but I have a feeling I know more than you here.

            Children are not stupid sponges. They have the ability to question their environment. I encourage that. I don't harrass them, like you harrass people who do not share your views. I have no problem with you having your views, in fact, some of your 'rules' are quite good. My issue is you seem to think you have superiority to us all and have the right to push your rules on us.

            Again, I refer you to your own rule #6 "Try to get along with others. If you can't get along, graciously walk away or try to negotiate a mutually agreeable separation." People here have repeatedly told you they are not interested, yet you insist on harrassing.

            In a similar vein, I refer you to your rule #8 "Do not impose your beliefs on others. Healthy discussion / debate is allowable." You have, by harrassing people despite their requests that you stop, gone beyond discussion or debate, healthy or otherwise. You are imposing your beliefs on others. Therefore, you lose credibility.

            Please kindly go rule 6 yourself.

            You also answered none of my points.

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            • suckonthis9
              11 years ago

              I had made no pretense that I was an Early Childhood Development professional, nor did I assert that I am a parent. This does not necessarily mean that I am not knowledgeable, in such matters. This is partly why I had asked for mothers to research the validity of these things, or to consult with a person who does know.

              My experience, of late, is that humans are, in fact, stupid, selfish, greedy and stubborn.
              It is a matter of contention, whether we actually are 'sponges'. It is now well known, that our earliest multicellular ancestors, were, in fact, 'sponges'. This information is readily available, for anyone who is interested.

              I do not intend to 'harass' anyone. Your presumption that I have "superiority to us all", is incorrect. I feel quite differently from this. I feel that we should all endeavor to strive for a society which promotes equality among all people, with the mindset of a co-existence with the other life forms we share this planet with, in a sustainable manner.
              I am merely providing information. It is your decision (and not yours alone), whether or not to accept the information provided. Please be forewarned, however, that I will challenge anyone who dismisses outright, the information provided, through ignorance, greed, stubbornness, selfishness, contempt, etc. I am also human, and therefore, fallible. Any person is also welcome to challenge me, for this reason.

              I agree with you somewhat, that the Rules create a slight imposition on others.
              My rebuttal to this, is that the Rules are far less of an imposition on us, than the multitudinous restrictive and oppressive laws that we are currently subject to. It is my belief, that if we all strive to live in accordance with the Rules, then much of this restrictive and oppressive legislation could be expunged and / or repealed.

              As I had stated previously, it is my belief that so-called 'rights', should be earned through responsible behaviour.
              I apologise if I have been somewhat overbearing. I have had an immense responsibility in attempting to Enlighten the world. It came much as a surprise to me. I had no idea myself, that after realizing the actual nature of the Universe, that this would become my responsibility.

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        • charli.m
          11 years ago

          *arguments
          *impose

          I should not write comments at 3am. Blah

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      • Shackleford96
        11 years ago | pl

        Why are you taking what she said so literally?

        In my experience, it is quite normal to refer to the nature of someone's soul (eg: sweet, loving, sensitive, etc.)

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        • charli.m
          11 years ago

          He has a serious case of 'pompous arse' syndrome :(

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        • suckonthis9
          11 years ago

          Please see my response below.

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          • Shackleford96
            11 years ago

            I read your response(s) and I believe you missed my point.

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  • howaminotmyself
    11 years ago

    So be daring, don't act like a dumb stereotype and don't encourage men to be a dumb stereotype.

    Also, turn off the TV. This is not an accurate view of the real world.

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  • kingsleycrowne
    11 years ago

    a good point and well made.

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  • dom180
    11 years ago

    I've seen a few questions about this, but it must be a predominantly American thing because I've seen only very, very few examples of this on British TV. On British TV, in the shows where the characters are set up that way, the male characters are still seen as having the central roles and still provide the comic relief, whereas the female characters are usually not central and don't provide humour. The male stereotype perpetuated by those shows has some positive connotations too, is what I'm trying to say.

    The characters also aren't shown as ones people "want to be like" because they're purely for comedy. For example, The Simpsons' is a comedy show. Homer isn't set up as being an inspirational figure for men but as a comedic figure, a crude caricature of "men", which is why you don't see anyone in real life imitating Homer apart from for comedy. Because the show doesn't perpetuate his idiocy as an ideal but as a trait to be mocked, nobody imitates those negative aspects of his personality. Does that make sense?

    I don't know if the shows you are talking about really do glorify idiocy though, or just mock it in the way shows like The Simpsons' do. If it's the former, then it's more worrying than if it's the latter.

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  • Blue_Velvet
    11 years ago

    And women are being potrayed as objects in the media.

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  • jajipoji
    11 years ago

    TV sucks. And its full of this pseudofeminist crap.

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  • dazjman
    11 years ago

    Men are morons lol well all of the ones I know, me included.

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    • Gravy
      11 years ago

      especially my boss. Then again, he probably thinks I am as well.

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      • dazjman
        11 years ago

        It's hard to be smart lol I seriously don't have the energy.
        But then some people think I am smart xD mostly guys though...

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        • Gravy
          11 years ago

          Now I just need sleep. Dragging this fat arse moron off to the rack. We've been building offroad RC jumps to put down in the foyer of the condo for my moron lad to show-off his skills tomorrow.

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          • dazjman
            11 years ago

            Oh wow! RC toy car thingy? You're an awesome Dad! :)

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            • Gravy
              11 years ago

              yep, we've made a series of jumps, the biggest 1.2m high which collapse down for carrying and storage. we lay out a rope to define the race track. It's a hoot and my boy is top gun driver. Cya

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  • anti-hero
    11 years ago

    I totally agree.

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  • bananaface
    11 years ago

    Yeah, I don't like all these stupid stereotypical characters. It's the same with overweight characters too, particularly women, they're always the brunt of the jokey insult type things. And then the only way they can become successful is to lose weight. Not a good message, really.

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  • diaperwolf21
    11 years ago

    Well, I dont fully understand the post, but I will say this.

    If you have a good pair of nuts hangin between your legs, dont be afraid to grab them and speak up.

    Even if youre shy, Grab a handful and assert your power!

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  • [Old Memory]
    11 years ago

    Not all of them but there are some like that.

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  • call-me-nerd
    11 years ago

    ya and in just about every fuckin show/movie they make the women look like bitches who cant take of ourselves but that would only be true if we were in a parallel universe ever since day one we are the ones taking care of the children and our so called men so why are affended by the truth torwards men

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  • IDiGAFi
    11 years ago

    But it has been going on for a while now. The Simpsons are as old as I am, 25, and they already misrepresent the sexes like that. I always found it curious how almost every sitcom would imitate that misrepresentation, the man being stupid and impulsive, and the woman being smart and rational, and the audience would never point it out. I think it's ridiculous. They are just scared of portraying women's flaws the way they are because they know the audience doesn't want to see that (or, should I say, that specific audience).

    Malcolm in the Middle was somewhat more accurate, but they were careful to show certain flaws only (pride, bossiness, moodiness) and hide anything that could sound politically incorrect (interestingly enough, they'd assign all the irrational behavior they couldn't show in Lois to Hal, turning it into a joke about his feminine side, thus making it more "acceptable").

    I think the one that ended up portraying women the most accurately is Sex and the City. The show is (pretty much) all about women and it has a very strong message about women's rights on a secondary plane, but you can see it's an actual belief of them because they don't need to overcompensate in such an exaggerated manner like trash sitcoms do (Family Guy being the most extreme case, perhaps even purposely as a satire, who knows). Sex and the City portrays female behavior the way it is and it's perfectly fine with it. In the end, I think that's what's most respectful. Saying "women are perfect and men are the idiots to blame for everything" is sexist as well, because it's not true and it sounds sarcastic.

    On a note aside, as far as I know, Sex and the City did incredibly well with the audience. That's to show, you can actually make good content and have the people watch it, it doesn't have to be bullshit in order to get the people's approval.

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  • [Old Memory]
    11 years ago

    I had never really noticed or thought about it... but it's an interesting point.

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  • Gravy
    11 years ago

    Mate, I had an issue with the hi-so quasi-religious school my son attends regarding bullying. A while back bullying was systemic and the school sent a letter out advising any kids caught bullying or fighting will be suspended, including kids retaliating. The school was advocating kids to ignore taunts and violence and report it to a teacher. That's all well and good however the boy gets more alienated and picked on.
    I thought the philosophy encouraged kids to be submissive and cowardly and certainly does not prepare them for the harsh reality of the dog eat dog world when they leave school to make their mark. I taught my boy to fight instead and not to get up of the kid until dragged off. This happened, I got call into the school, however councillor quietly agreed with me and nothing happened. My boy has not been bullied since.

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  • KeddersPrincess
    11 years ago

    Yeah. Watch the beginning of the "Animaniacs" theme song. Yacko and Wacko are walking around with their arms dragging the ground and their tongues hanging out while Dot actually looks like she has common sense.

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  • 1000yrVampireKing
    11 years ago

    Yes they do.

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  • Terence_the_viking
    11 years ago

    Glad i'm not the only one that thinks so.

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