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I don't like the feeling.
But, seeing casual or flippant responses after people loose a loved one to gun violence.
I just think, I hope it happens to someone you DO care about.
Maybe then it won't be some joke to you.
Is it just me?
They watch people get mowed down up to 50 at a time.
But still say, the solution is more guns.
Take long guns away. They use a pistol. Take pistols away. They use a knife. Take knives away. They use a baseball bat, etc. People kill people by texting. Take phones away. Take cars away. Hell take everything away. But that won't satisfy you.
It isn't gun violence. It is people violence. They just happened to use a gun to commit it. It isn't any different than people who use a truck or a bomb to commit the same type of violence.
Ok.
So what law would have prevented the Las Vegas Shooter?
He was 100% legal.
Pretty well off too.
Yet, he took his time.
Pre-planned his location for maximum target area.
He wasn't criminal, a schoolkid, a criminal with a gun, a mental case.
He was legal 100%
Not an idiot at all.
How do you stop someone like that?
If he wasn't an idiot, he wouldn't have done what he did. He was beyond an idiot, he had parts of his brain not firing right. If a person feels the need to fire a gun at innocent people, there's a lot of brain cells firing the wrong way.
Look all i was trying to say is that we need to change our way of thinking, that will do a better job.
& about your question, no it's not good to think that gun nuts should be gun victims.
karma will get them one day.
So what about people whose lives are saved by guns, or avoid a beating, stabbing, rape, or loss of property because of a gun?
Maybe if you were a victim of crime your view would change on guns. And what about shooting victims or their families who support gun rights and are against gun control?
Name 3 times 50 or more people were "mowed down"?
PS-You are less likely to be killed by guns in the US today than you were 25 years ago. The rate of gun related deaths has been on an overall steady decline but the number of guns has increased.
You're also less likely to be killed during a robbery if you don't own a gun. It's a myth that they save lives.
People who own guns are exponentially more likely to kill themselves with it, be killed with it, or kill a friend/family member with it than stop a crime with it.
Maybe if you were one of the 20 people who are a victim of accidental gun violence or intentional domestic violence involving a gun for every crime prevented your view would change on guns.
EDIT: I'm not the OP but there were 58 people mowed down in Las Vegas. So that's covers up to 58. Who said anything about it happening three times?
Are you using data from a 30 year old study of 3 counties in the state of Washington that was having a crime wave & drug problem at the time and applying it to the rest of the country today?
You take facts at face value without investigating further....But logically, if someone commits suicide with a gun they are probably likely to own the gun. Since suicide accounts for 2/3rds the gun deaths in this country, and most gun suicides are the owners of the gun it is true but misleading to say "People who own guns are exponentially more likely to kill themselves with it".
You fail to mention how many of those gun owners themselves were involved in criminal activity that lead to the altercation. I don't care if criminals kill each other.
Also,according to the Bureau of Justice, most crimes are committed by someone known to the victim. So if a person is more likely to be attacked by someone they know and use a gun in self defense it would explain why they would be likely to kill a so-called friend/family member. Again, you mislead with a superficial exam of the facts.
I guarantee I would not change my mind about guns in the same way I wouldn't change my mind about cars if someone I love is killed by a teen or a drunk driver.
If in the entire history of this country there is only one recorded occurrence of such an event, it's certainly not not as common or wide spread as some would have us believe.
So if I have access to a gun I’m more likely to commit a crime with a gun then someone that doesn’t have access to one? Maybe rethink that instead of trying to overwhelm people with facts.
"People say things I don't like, therefor I want them dead."
...I wonder if this would strengthen their view on guns...
Plus, this idea that gun owners have never had family killed by guns is quite...interesting.
Guns offer rural folk who have to wait as long as 10-30 minutes a way to protect themselves in a way the police are unable to. They offer our nation protection against foreign invasion and occupation since our citizenry would be armed to the teeth. They allow good-hearted rule abiding folks to conceal carry and save lives in dangerous situations.
Guns have way more benefits than negatives in America. To stop gun violence, one should consider dealing with Mental Health or even the Media which sensationalizes and inspires more (as is the case with school shootings). Criminals do not need to follow the law to obtain or carry guns, and I doubt they will. The only thing gun control will do is disarm the folk who will use them best.
I live in the ghetto and people in my family have been shot. My dad has been shot. We still think the solution is more than guns because guns don't kill people do. Obviously we need better gun control in certain parts of America (not everywhere because some parts are perfectly fine the way they are) but a lot of this has to do with mental health issues. I think you just need to get more educated. Some laws people want to put in place don't even make sense because sometimes they want to ban guns that "look scary" but do way less damage than this other gun they let be on the streets.
I Really hate guns and stuff cuz theyre scary and stuff, But i wouldnt go as far to wish death.
come on. be nice to people. try not to say these things. you are never that anonymous. why would you get mad and type that? delete it before you get reported. their will be an investigation. i know where you are coming from not that i would ever want anyone to die because a belief. i know it is sad what people say, but never post anything like this. people are rude. no one is there on the internet to show them that they are hurting their feelings and some people only care about themselves, or only care about certain people, but i feel like sometimes it seems like some people care about no one not even their self to treat people badly on line or in life. but love people. be chill and try to be safe. online with this stuff even though you are mad and not meaning it for real is not safe.
A school bully is hitting everyone with sticks. Your job, as principal, is to stop the bully from hitting everyone with sticks.
Do you:
1: offer your thoughts and prayers to all the bully's victims?
2: give all teachers sticks which are larger and hurt more?
3: give the bully an immediate mental health check?
Or
4: confiscate the stick?
The same logic should apply to assault rifles. If no-one has an assault rifle, nobody can shoot anyone!
BOOM!
You beef up security so no one can bring sticks into school. You sure as hell wouldn't ban the rest of society from owning sticks because a kid brought one to school.
Sticks can be found everywhere, including in schools. Wherever there's a tree, you can be sure there's a stick nearby.
Again, the logic can be applied to guns. If - like in America - supermarkets are allowed to stock AR-15s, you can be damn sure someone from the states living within a 5-mile radius of any given supermarket owns one.
If I recall you’ve posted this repeatedly. Wishing someone becomes a victim makes you as bad as these “gun nuts” you despise.
I followed these shootings and I never heard anyone be casual or flippant about it, so you need to travel in better circles.
Instead of ranting on an Internet forum full of trolls and deviants, wth are you actually going to do about it? I don’t mean them, the other guy, or your neighbors, I mean YOU.
Your “wall of sentences” writing style won’t solve shit, that’s for damn sure.
Amend human rights, let a criminal face the same problem that he created. Or die the same way that he murdered.
Again, sorry for getting side tracked.
My question is not about gun control, or types of guns.
OK.
I don't care if someone uses a damn flintlock rifle.
It's hearing people say oh well, thought n prayers. Blah blah.
I want them to feel the pain of loosing someone.
That's the question.
Do you feel that way.
Or think, my family's safe.
Doesn't effect me.
gun nuts dont murder , its the crazy under 18 child that illeaggay picks up a gun to murder innocent people or the retarded democrat that unhappy with their life so the pick up a gun to murder because hillary clinton lost. No happy winning gun toting republican winner murders his unborn child because we all own slaves . that you guys . we are so happy we fart rainbows . its democrats that murder. not happy people. while you all wait for handouts we just reach in and grab the dollars with both fists and we buy guns and ammo just so you cant buy then first. Fuck we want a wall to keep peppe our gardner form sneaking back into mexico. we say anything needed to get our way. we want more guns. our kids go to private school , you dumb fuckers shoot each other before you learn how to fuck
Sorry for getting side tracked.
But, anyone care to actually answer the question?
When I hear people belittle the victims families.
I hope that person gets a dose of karma.
That they loose a loved one.
Is it just me?
I DID answer the orginal question. More violence is not a good solution.
Fair enough.
I just get frustrated and don't know what else will reach these people.
It's like, if you don't feel empathy.
Maybe you will if it's forced on you.
I don't wish ill, on people.
I'm just struggling to figure how people can be so non chalant about death.
The same way we are nonchalant when teen drivers kill about 4500 people each year in the US.
Or the 10,497 people killed by drunk drivers in 2016.
Or the 169 pediatric deaths during the 2017-18 flu season.
Or the 44,330 people who die every year in the US from pancreatic cancer.
Except for the fact that the CDC is allowed to research how to prevent bad driving, the flu, and cancer. They're not allowed to research gun violence.
It is impossible to quantify how many crimes are avoided because of the presence of a gun, or the potential perpetrator thinks there is a gun but wants to avoid being shot. If no shots are fired and no crime has actually been committed it goes unreported. Here is an example-If a store owner spends the night in front of his store holding an ar15 when one of those well intentioned protests turns sour. Unless someone is shot, it is an unrecorded event.
It would be a biased study simply because guns are not a disease and the only people who believe there needs to be such a study don't like guns in the first place and are looking for ways to ban them. The study would be inaccurate for the simple reason researchers would need the cooperation of gun owners to answer questions accurately or honestly.
Here is something else to consider- Since two thirds of all gun fatalities are suicides, and they are also likely to be the gun owner, how many are in late stages of an incurable disease like cancer and decide to end their own suffering? I'd rather that money for the study go to cancer research.
But what does a study have to do with people allegedly being nonchalant about death?
The problem is if you outlaw and confiscate guns then only outlaws will have guns. There are large areas of America where there are lots of guns for home protection but having an AR-15 for home protection is nuts. Outlaw ALL automatic rifles and hand guns as they are the weapons of choice for mass murders. If anyone is caught with one a significant jail sentence is a great deterrent. I know you won't like this but teachers in schools should be properly trained and licensed to carry.
A civilian AR-15 is only semi automatic and it is NOT an assualt rifle either.
What the fuck does the AR in AR-15 stand for if it's not "assault rifle"?
It is when it's easily modified to be automatic. You can buy kits on the Internet.
Are you really that convinced?
Ronald Reagan said it is.
He outlawed it.
For $200 I can ad a push pull trigger to my AR.
1 shot when I pull, 1 shot when I realease.
Have you listened to the vegas shooter audio?
How many rpm do you want?
Lame IMO
To many wasted rounds.
But, on auto fire, that what you get...
Oh yea, semi auto. Right?
LOL MFR.