Is it normal i think prison sentences should be indefinite?

I think prison sentences should be basically indefinite (having an upper limit BUT the actual sentence given to the individual isn't "x" years), getting out should depend on behavior and rehabilitation rather than time served. Shift the focus from counting the days to meeting goals.

If the inmate meets all the goals in his/her rehabilitation and has shown good behavior, he/she should be let out regardless of how long he/she has served in prison. Upon release, there should still be supervision (restrictiveness/level of supervision depends on the crime) until it's clear that the ex-inmate has adjusted properly to life outside prison.

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  • AbnormallyAwesome

    It sure is an interesting thought. But I think it's really hard to know when someone is rehabilitated.

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  • rogidez

    Amazing how ignorant society has become, we have so many rules and regulations and then there are laws and counter laws ....mankind has lost its way..judge not lest you be judged

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  • squeallikeasacofpigs

    I think we should just send them all to the gallows.

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  • Is there comments missing from here? What the heck happened?

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  • -Solitude-

    I think that one of the best things we could do to lower crime rates would be to lower the population. If there were less people, we could have better education systems, and be able to watch out for the people around us. I think pretty much _all_ of our problems can be traced back to overpopulation.

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  • redoctober

    What you all fail to realise is that some sentances, especially the long ones have a minor factor of the safety of the individual being sentanced.

    the families of the ones affected by that individuals actions might not be so eager to see Mr. Happy Golucky Rehabilitated walking around the streets or the mall so soon.

    That alone can lead to another crime, you can never know for sure.

    Your idea is nice and I get where you are coming from, but it ill never happen.

    I think the education systen and welfare and health system needs to be improved first before we focus on letting criminals out. Remember, some criminals can be very very good actors. Acting good and rehabilited might fool the system, but deep inside they are just counting the days till their next crime. MWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!

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  • Fabulous

    I think a dick slap by me for all the lady prisoners is in order

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  • davesumba

    I don't think a single prison sentence fits the crime except life in prison for murder. So i'm pretty against the idea of prison entirely.

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  • Dontyoudare

    I think they should build a giant chessboard; each square is a kilometre-squared in area, and has a different theme (desert, marsh, mountains etc...). There are giant electric fences that run the perimeter of each square so no one can escape. You then get a load of criminals and rank them by their crimes, so the worst offenders are the kings, followed by the queens, followed by the bishops and so on, and the petty offenders are the pawns. The groups of criminals are transported to their respective squares in the prison, set up in the manner of a chessboard. Each criminal gets given a weapon that has something to do with the crime they committed: Rapists will get sex toys, murderers may get their murder weapon, thieves get something to do with the items they stole.

    Then all the victims get together and play chess using the groups of criminals. Say they move their castle to B8, which is occupied by a pawn of the other team; a group of pedophiles armed with children's toys will have to battle with an army of thieves kitted out with electrical goods and priceless ornaments. Whoever is the last team standing takes the square, and checkmate is when a team kill the opposing king (usually hardest to kill, as they have the best weapons). This means that it's usually two groups of kings against each other, so most of the criminals are dead and you don't have to worry about them any more.

    The remaining criminals are put into the next game of chess and so on until they all die. So not only if the crime problem solved, but the victims get to have fun too!

    Oh yeah, I forgot to add that every time a team kills the other team's criminals, they get perks, like air strikes and mine drops and stuff, just to keep the game interesting.

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  • anti-hero

    They will just fake it until they get out and nobody is watching.

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    • There would be safeguards in place, and you can't fake attendance (in classes, job training, work programs, etc) and passing test scores. Well I guess it's possible but not likely.

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      • anti-hero

        Just because you get an education or training, that doesn't stop you from being an evil fuck.

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        • searchingnow

          OP is probably one of those people who thinks anyone who had grades over B in school and went to college can do nothing wrong. Because rote memorization makes you a good person.

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          • anti-hero

            I don't think that is what they mean.

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            • searchingnow

              You're right; I don't know why I wrote that.

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        • Of course not, but MOST people who are incarcerated aren't especially "evil". For most of them, it's accurate to say that they'd probably not be doing criminal activities if they had an education, a job, help with a drug problem, mental health services, etc. These are the people I'm most concerned about. What we're doing now isn't working, they are let out with virtually no hope of obtaining employment, no skills and a parole officer breathing down their necks and they end up right back in prison.

          I'm not saying to let EVERYONE back out either, clearly a serial killer, mass shooter, bomber, or repeat rapist shouldn't be let back out but virtually everyone else should be at least considered for release if progress in rehabilitation/education/etc is satisfactory.

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          • anti-hero

            I didn't think or say that is what you meant.

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  • MissyLeyneous

    What, so we can supply them with three hots and a cot forever? NO SIR. Here's what I think we need to do:

    For murderers:
    You get three options... the gallows, the guillotine, or the firing squad. You get 24 hours to make your peace, and a simple last meal (none of this lobster and steak shit).

    For thieves:
    First offense, we take your hand, second offense, we take the next hand, third offense, we take your head.

    For rapists, both male and female:
    First offense, we cut it off or cauterize it shut, second offense, see options for murderers.

    There's no such thing as "drug abusers" in my world because in MY world you have the freedom to put whatever you want in your body, because it's YOUR body.

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    • OswaldCobblepot

      What of those wrongly convicted? Good luck bringing them back to life or reattaching their limbs…

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      • Dontyoudare

        I'm sure the judge and jury that wrongly convicted them will be subjected to torture, don't you worry!

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        • OswaldCobblepot

          Oh, yes… because more suffering makes everything better.

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        • Devyn

          because it's always the judge and the jury's fault isn't it.

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    • anti-hero

      You are going Old Testament on their asses.

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      • MissyLeyneous

        I don't understand why I got so many thumbs down, really. :P

        I just listed the three most heinous of crimes, that I could think of, which would get the worst punishments. They were laid out simply here, but they would obviously need to adapt to the mainstream world, and they would need to scale to the severity of the crime. (For example, I would NOT chop of the hand of someone who stole a candy bar... but rather someone who steals something of much, much greater value.)

        I don't believe that prison works to deter crime, but rather its an endless cycle of extortion.

        The OP is basically advocating for "RE-education camps", which I am NOT in favor of. Re-education camps have been used by dictators and tyrants in the past, they're NOT a good idea... Sorry OP.

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    • Justsomejerk

      What about people who put drugs in other people's bodies?

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      • MissyLeyneous

        If it was not consensual, and it did not result in death or rape...

        Then once the victim is able, hand him/her a good stick, a whip, or whatever tool he/she wants and let them beat the STUPID out of the criminal (who has one foot tied to the ground, and his hands tied together, so he/she can't move). If he or she is unwilling or unable to hand out the beating for any reason, then we simply find someone who WILL do it.

        If it DID result in death, see "murderer".

        If it DID result in rape, see "rapist".

        Simple. :D

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    • First, did you READ my post? I said there would be an "upper limit", meaning there would be a max amount of years for the crime, so that people couldn't be incarcerated for a lifetime for an assault, for instance. Say the max for the crime someone commits might be 10 years. Instead of giving them a definite sentence of 6 years, they get no timed sentence. They can be out as soon as they meet behavioral and rehabilitation goals, whether that's 1 year, 3 years or 9 years.

      Second, your ideas are horrible. I don't agree with the death penalty and I don't agree with "cruel and unusual" punishment. Thankfully, most people agree with me on that.

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      • MissyLeyneous

        Nope, I sure didn't because your post is retarded. The death penalty is reserved only for those who commit the most heinous of crimes... AND the three options I give are ACTUALLY MORE HUMANE than the "electric chair" or the "injection" which are both slow, painful deaths!!

        If someone walks up to you and beats the tar out of you, in return, we would tie him down as described above, and then YOU would get to return the favor. It's the concept of an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

        There's nothing wrong with my ideas, you just have to watch who you choose to enforce them. And, if my ideas were enforced properly and not abused, you would see crime rates PLUMMET to near ZERO.

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        • Nothing wrong with your ideas? Yeah, except that they're awful. There ARE/were places that have similar guidelines and their crime rate certainly isn't ZERO.

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          • MissyLeyneous

            Name them and be specific.

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    • scumfuck

      you are fucked up in the head

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      • MissyLeyneous

        Thank you. ^_^

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    • SuperBenzid

      Wouldn't the executioner also be a murderer, so it would end up being an endless loop? As each executioner was executed and then that executioner in turn would be executed.

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      • MissyLeyneous

        Nope. The executioner just has a shitty job. :P

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